OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban?
OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban?
05-18-2010, 07:52 PM
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(05-18-2010, 12:36 PM)ForcedInduction The 4BT is a really good option, its a long stroke engine made for working hard. The OM617 is more about economy with reasonable power. It would be much better suited to something the size of an S-10. Personally, if I had the facilities and funds, I'd be making a street rail buggy out of one right now.
I won't do another 4BT swap in an everyday driver. They vibrate WAY too much! At a stop my teeth would chatter from the vibrations and I watched the hood bounce up-and-down so I sold it off. I would put a 4BT in a toy to off road in. They have plenty of torque, in fact, it was about the same acceleration as the 350. A 5.9 would be better because they are naturally smooth being an inline 6 and the fuel mileage won't suffer much.
The Rail would be fun but stay with a V8!
(05-18-2010, 02:44 PM)dropnosky why not just swap in another V8 engine platform, like the 6.2 or 6.5 chevy diesel? or if you are concerned about the bottom end and less than stellar reputation of those, a 6.9 IDI, 7.3 IDI, or a 7.3 powerstroke? Can you fit one of the 5.7 cummins in there? or only the 4bt?
I love the ford powerplants, so I would put one of those in.
I like the 6.2 and 6.5 but for towing they didn't have oil cooled pistons until 97'. Then the block developed cracks where the new oil jets were placed from drilling. The ideal engine would be a 6500 optimizer made by AM General. AM General bought the 6.5 production from GM in 2000 and re-did the cast design making it what it should have been. However a 6,600 $$$ for a long block put's at the bottom of the list.
The 6.9 and 7.3 IDI engines are good just lack towing power with out a turbo. But the would be more of a pain then an OM617 swap because there is no trans adapter available like the OM617. I did own a 93 F350 Crew Cab 4x4 with a 7.3 and was impressed with the simplicity of the 7.3 but once I hooked a trailer up to it it felt like a 6.2 diesel.
My second option is a 5.9 and it will fit just have to scoot the trans back 3 inches. There are prefabbed motor mounts and accessories available to keep the stock GM accessories so logistics will be easy. I would go with a 1st gen dodge 5.9 because they were the lightest weighing at 880 lbs.
But I can't decide now
This post was last modified: 05-18-2010, 08:00 PM by b1jetmech.
(05-18-2010, 12:36 PM)ForcedInduction The 4BT is a really good option, its a long stroke engine made for working hard. The OM617 is more about economy with reasonable power. It would be much better suited to something the size of an S-10. Personally, if I had the facilities and funds, I'd be making a street rail buggy out of one right now.
I won't do another 4BT swap in an everyday driver. They vibrate WAY too much! At a stop my teeth would chatter from the vibrations and I watched the hood bounce up-and-down so I sold it off. I would put a 4BT in a toy to off road in. They have plenty of torque, in fact, it was about the same acceleration as the 350. A 5.9 would be better because they are naturally smooth being an inline 6 and the fuel mileage won't suffer much.
The Rail would be fun but stay with a V8!
(05-18-2010, 02:44 PM)dropnosky why not just swap in another V8 engine platform, like the 6.2 or 6.5 chevy diesel? or if you are concerned about the bottom end and less than stellar reputation of those, a 6.9 IDI, 7.3 IDI, or a 7.3 powerstroke? Can you fit one of the 5.7 cummins in there? or only the 4bt?
I love the ford powerplants, so I would put one of those in.
I like the 6.2 and 6.5 but for towing they didn't have oil cooled pistons until 97'. Then the block developed cracks where the new oil jets were placed from drilling. The ideal engine would be a 6500 optimizer made by AM General. AM General bought the 6.5 production from GM in 2000 and re-did the cast design making it what it should have been. However a 6,600 $$$ for a long block put's at the bottom of the list.
The 6.9 and 7.3 IDI engines are good just lack towing power with out a turbo. But the would be more of a pain then an OM617 swap because there is no trans adapter available like the OM617. I did own a 93 F350 Crew Cab 4x4 with a 7.3 and was impressed with the simplicity of the 7.3 but once I hooked a trailer up to it it felt like a 6.2 diesel.
My second option is a 5.9 and it will fit just have to scoot the trans back 3 inches. There are prefabbed motor mounts and accessories available to keep the stock GM accessories so logistics will be easy. I would go with a 1st gen dodge 5.9 because they were the lightest weighing at 880 lbs.
But I can't decide now
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OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by b1jetmech - 05-17-2010, 04:35 PM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by DeliveryValve - 05-17-2010, 05:18 PM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by ForcedInduction - 05-17-2010, 05:52 PM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by b1jetmech - 05-18-2010, 11:11 AM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by Syncro_G - 05-18-2010, 11:16 AM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by b1jetmech - 05-18-2010, 11:17 AM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by DeliveryValve - 05-18-2010, 12:34 PM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by ForcedInduction - 05-18-2010, 12:36 PM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by b1jetmech - 05-18-2010, 07:52 PM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by dropnosky - 05-18-2010, 02:44 PM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by ForcedInduction - 05-19-2010, 02:43 AM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by b1jetmech - 05-19-2010, 09:38 AM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by garage - 05-19-2010, 10:46 AM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by MadMaxW126 - 06-14-2010, 01:56 PM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by b1jetmech - 07-17-2010, 09:04 PM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by willbhere4u - 07-17-2010, 10:53 PM
RE: OM617 Turbo in 96' Chevy Sububrban? - by ForcedInduction - 07-18-2010, 06:22 AM
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