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W124 goes om606 - HX40 Billet - 500HP Goal

W124 goes om606 - HX40 Billet - 500HP Goal

 
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swatmugga
GT2256V

130
02-26-2016, 04:18 PM #51
Hey guys, im currently cutting an video but i really need some better street conditon, when its wet its undrivable Big Grin.
At the current fueling @2 Bar i have absolutly no smoke. Im going to unlock in the next few days.

Next Plans for the car:

- Im swaping from 716.604 Gearbox to 716.657 thats from ne new W204 220 CDI Model. It has only one shift arm that raises the compfort. Also its rated @ a higher torque (250 VS 400nm). It has same trasmission ration like my actually box has.
- Im going to rebuild my full front axle. Im using wishbones from the E320 because there is very less space @ my break disk.

After all there will be a Dyno run Smile
swatmugga
02-26-2016, 04:18 PM #51

Hey guys, im currently cutting an video but i really need some better street conditon, when its wet its undrivable Big Grin.
At the current fueling @2 Bar i have absolutly no smoke. Im going to unlock in the next few days.

Next Plans for the car:

- Im swaping from 716.604 Gearbox to 716.657 thats from ne new W204 220 CDI Model. It has only one shift arm that raises the compfort. Also its rated @ a higher torque (250 VS 400nm). It has same trasmission ration like my actually box has.
- Im going to rebuild my full front axle. Im using wishbones from the E320 because there is very less space @ my break disk.

After all there will be a Dyno run Smile

swatmugga
GT2256V

130
03-02-2016, 01:05 PM #52
[Image: 20160302_135822.jpg]

Carparts Big Grin


[Image: 20160302_141450.jpg]

[Image: 20160302_141507.jpg]

BTW this is my trottle solution in w124.
swatmugga
03-02-2016, 01:05 PM #52

[Image: 20160302_135822.jpg]

Carparts Big Grin


[Image: 20160302_141450.jpg]

[Image: 20160302_141507.jpg]

BTW this is my trottle solution in w124.

Max
Turbinaaa

87
03-02-2016, 04:55 PM #53
To make a good Working Throttle Linkage can be a PITA.

Took me 3 Evenings and 3 Prototypes until i found a working Solution with the Stock "Pedal Feeling".

Greets

Max

______________________________________________________________
93´ W124 300TDT -> OM606.962 / RS 203 Dieselmeken 7,5mm 210cc / KKK K14 / Stock Transmission / 2,65 ASD
89´ 190D 2.5 Turbo -> OM605.960 / Dieselmeken 7,5mm 180cc / Holset HX30 Super / 716. 654 6-Speed / 2,87 Rear Axle
Max
03-02-2016, 04:55 PM #53

To make a good Working Throttle Linkage can be a PITA.

Took me 3 Evenings and 3 Prototypes until i found a working Solution with the Stock "Pedal Feeling".

Greets

Max


______________________________________________________________
93´ W124 300TDT -> OM606.962 / RS 203 Dieselmeken 7,5mm 210cc / KKK K14 / Stock Transmission / 2,65 ASD
89´ 190D 2.5 Turbo -> OM605.960 / Dieselmeken 7,5mm 180cc / Holset HX30 Super / 716. 654 6-Speed / 2,87 Rear Axle

swatmugga
GT2256V

130
03-02-2016, 05:14 PM #54
Whats your solution?
swatmugga
03-02-2016, 05:14 PM #54

Whats your solution?

Max
Turbinaaa

87
03-02-2016, 06:21 PM #55
Only got this one Picture Blush 


[Image: h9kymipo.jpg]

Its made out of an old OM602 Linkage .
This post was last modified: 03-02-2016, 06:28 PM by Max.

______________________________________________________________
93´ W124 300TDT -> OM606.962 / RS 203 Dieselmeken 7,5mm 210cc / KKK K14 / Stock Transmission / 2,65 ASD
89´ 190D 2.5 Turbo -> OM605.960 / Dieselmeken 7,5mm 180cc / Holset HX30 Super / 716. 654 6-Speed / 2,87 Rear Axle
Max
03-02-2016, 06:21 PM #55

Only got this one Picture Blush 


[Image: h9kymipo.jpg]

Its made out of an old OM602 Linkage .


______________________________________________________________
93´ W124 300TDT -> OM606.962 / RS 203 Dieselmeken 7,5mm 210cc / KKK K14 / Stock Transmission / 2,65 ASD
89´ 190D 2.5 Turbo -> OM605.960 / Dieselmeken 7,5mm 180cc / Holset HX30 Super / 716. 654 6-Speed / 2,87 Rear Axle

swatmugga
GT2256V

130
03-06-2016, 12:58 PM #56
Looks good man!

Today i installed my fuel pressure gauge. Its already working but i need to change the gauge to an damped one.

[Image: 20160306_181435.jpg]

[Image: 20160306_181500.jpg]

Looking forward to do a few testings with an harder prepump spring in the next few days to see at what fueling the stock lift pump is maxed out.
swatmugga
03-06-2016, 12:58 PM #56

Looks good man!

Today i installed my fuel pressure gauge. Its already working but i need to change the gauge to an damped one.

[Image: 20160306_181435.jpg]

[Image: 20160306_181500.jpg]

Looking forward to do a few testings with an harder prepump spring in the next few days to see at what fueling the stock lift pump is maxed out.

swatmugga
GT2256V

130
03-21-2016, 01:49 PM #57
I got the following Values:

0.5 Bar at 700RPM Idle
1 Bar no Load high RPM
0.5 Bar full Load high RPM

I will gonna swich to a modified prepump with more pressure. As counterpart i install a 1.5 bar valve at the rear of the pump. I tell you if i got results.

I also have the idea of swapping to an automatic gearbox. 722.626 or 722.639 from 320 CDI / 400 CDI with oles controller.

Did anyone uses the internal gearbox cooler of the water cooler? What temps did you got?
swatmugga
03-21-2016, 01:49 PM #57

I got the following Values:

0.5 Bar at 700RPM Idle
1 Bar no Load high RPM
0.5 Bar full Load high RPM

I will gonna swich to a modified prepump with more pressure. As counterpart i install a 1.5 bar valve at the rear of the pump. I tell you if i got results.

I also have the idea of swapping to an automatic gearbox. 722.626 or 722.639 from 320 CDI / 400 CDI with oles controller.

Did anyone uses the internal gearbox cooler of the water cooler? What temps did you got?

uli124125
TA 0301

53
03-26-2016, 09:15 PM #58
the internal gearbox cooler is much more bad than bullshit....
your car SMELLS a hill and it begins to sweat...
uli124125
03-26-2016, 09:15 PM #58

the internal gearbox cooler is much more bad than bullshit....
your car SMELLS a hill and it begins to sweat...

swatmugga
GT2256V

130
05-28-2016, 07:09 AM #59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlLg2KUAS9Y

1.8 bar boost are the acceleration results. Currently im swiching to automatic transmission.
swatmugga
05-28-2016, 07:09 AM #59

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlLg2KUAS9Y

1.8 bar boost are the acceleration results. Currently im swiching to automatic transmission.

atypicalguy
Holset

555
06-09-2016, 06:26 AM #60
(05-28-2016, 07:09 AM)swatmugga https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlLg2KUAS9Y

1.8 bar boost are the acceleration results. Currently im swiching to automatic transmission.

Nice car and nice video.

Did you get the quick spool you were looking for when switching to hx40? Other people seem to spool at 3000-3500rpm with that turbo.
atypicalguy
06-09-2016, 06:26 AM #60

(05-28-2016, 07:09 AM)swatmugga https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlLg2KUAS9Y

1.8 bar boost are the acceleration results. Currently im swiching to automatic transmission.

Nice car and nice video.

Did you get the quick spool you were looking for when switching to hx40? Other people seem to spool at 3000-3500rpm with that turbo.

swatmugga
GT2256V

130
08-09-2016, 01:21 PM #61
[Image: Unbenanntasd.png]

Soon i will put a self developed fast scroll exhaust mainfold. Its a little bit more than only the design. There where thoughts about special material for high temperatur duty and low friction bearings. I will upload test results in a few weeks.

Compared to the other solutions i saw in the internet you have the perfect flow in all situations. At low load the window is closed and all cylinders fire in one scroll. At high load you have the advantage of an twin scroll mainfold with better gas flow through and no gas whirls.

I think about sell this parts also.
This post was last modified: 08-09-2016, 01:25 PM by swatmugga.
swatmugga
08-09-2016, 01:21 PM #61

[Image: Unbenanntasd.png]

Soon i will put a self developed fast scroll exhaust mainfold. Its a little bit more than only the design. There where thoughts about special material for high temperatur duty and low friction bearings. I will upload test results in a few weeks.

Compared to the other solutions i saw in the internet you have the perfect flow in all situations. At low load the window is closed and all cylinders fire in one scroll. At high load you have the advantage of an twin scroll mainfold with better gas flow through and no gas whirls.

I think about sell this parts also.

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
08-09-2016, 02:45 PM #62
Looks like a nice design, the only reason I don't like those "quick spool" valves is they side load the turbine wheel. I know people that have side loaded a turbine wheel for years and never had problems, and people that do it once and ruin it.

I personally have done it before, and had no issues .

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
08-09-2016, 02:45 PM #62

Looks like a nice design, the only reason I don't like those "quick spool" valves is they side load the turbine wheel. I know people that have side loaded a turbine wheel for years and never had problems, and people that do it once and ruin it.

I personally have done it before, and had no issues .


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

swatmugga
GT2256V

130
08-09-2016, 11:12 PM #63
Thats why my concept leads the flow to the croll thats closer to the chra so the leaver of the attatching force is as little as it could be.
I could imagine, if you use the outer scroll it will worn more.
swatmugga
08-09-2016, 11:12 PM #63

Thats why my concept leads the flow to the croll thats closer to the chra so the leaver of the attatching force is as little as it could be.
I could imagine, if you use the outer scroll it will worn more.

firen456
TA 0301

73
08-10-2016, 01:48 AM #64
Did you measure any pressures with the 1,5 bar valve?
firen456
08-10-2016, 01:48 AM #64

Did you measure any pressures with the 1,5 bar valve?

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
08-10-2016, 07:08 AM #65
(08-09-2016, 01:21 PM)swatmugga [Image: Unbenanntasd.png]

Soon i will put a self developed fast scroll exhaust mainfold. Its a little bit more than only the design. There where thoughts about special material for high temperatur duty and low friction bearings. I will upload test results in a few weeks.

Compared to the other solutions i saw in the internet you have the perfect flow in all situations. At low load the window is closed and all cylinders fire in one scroll. At high load you have the advantage of an twin scroll mainfold with better gas flow through and no gas whirls.

I think about sell this parts also.

Good idea, I am developing a quick spool valve but more like the normal ones because I can make it for free..

For materials my thoughts were make the housing from SS and the flap from mild, this way as it heats up it will not bind (because SS expands more than steel), so it will get looser as it heats not tighter.

Will it be milled from a billet or fabricated??

Beers.




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
08-10-2016, 07:08 AM #65

(08-09-2016, 01:21 PM)swatmugga [Image: Unbenanntasd.png]

Soon i will put a self developed fast scroll exhaust mainfold. Its a little bit more than only the design. There where thoughts about special material for high temperatur duty and low friction bearings. I will upload test results in a few weeks.

Compared to the other solutions i saw in the internet you have the perfect flow in all situations. At low load the window is closed and all cylinders fire in one scroll. At high load you have the advantage of an twin scroll mainfold with better gas flow through and no gas whirls.

I think about sell this parts also.

Good idea, I am developing a quick spool valve but more like the normal ones because I can make it for free..

For materials my thoughts were make the housing from SS and the flap from mild, this way as it heats up it will not bind (because SS expands more than steel), so it will get looser as it heats not tighter.

Will it be milled from a billet or fabricated??

Beers.





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

swatmugga
GT2256V

130
08-14-2016, 05:40 AM #66
It will be fabricated. You will get the first update in the following week with pictures of the product.

[Image: 20160813_131221.jpg]

[Image: 20160813_131234.jpg]

[Image: IMG-20160813-WA0012.jpg]

A few pictures of the old om603 engine, dosnt look so good anymore Smile the other bearings are okay.
This post was last modified: 08-14-2016, 05:41 AM by swatmugga.
swatmugga
08-14-2016, 05:40 AM #66

It will be fabricated. You will get the first update in the following week with pictures of the product.

[Image: 20160813_131221.jpg]

[Image: 20160813_131234.jpg]

[Image: IMG-20160813-WA0012.jpg]

A few pictures of the old om603 engine, dosnt look so good anymore Smile the other bearings are okay.

atypicalguy
Holset

555
08-15-2016, 03:33 AM #67
(08-10-2016, 07:08 AM)Hario
(08-09-2016, 01:21 PM)swatmugga [Image: Unbenanntasd.png]

Soon i will put a self developed fast scroll exhaust mainfold. Its a little bit more than only the design. There where thoughts about special material for high temperatur duty and low friction bearings. I will upload test results in a few weeks.

Compared to the other solutions i saw in the internet you have the perfect flow in all situations. At low load the window is closed and all cylinders fire in one scroll. At high load you have the advantage of an twin scroll mainfold with better gas flow through and no gas whirls.

I think about sell this parts also.

Good idea, I am developing a quick spool valve but more like the normal ones because I can make it for free..

For materials my thoughts were make the housing from SS and the flap from mild, this way as it heats up it will not bind (because SS expands more than steel), so it will get looser as it heats not tighter.

Will it be milled from a billet or fabricated??

Beers.
You could ask those black smoke guys what they used for their exhaust diverted butterfly pivot valve. As I recall the pivot rod bent impressively in the first version.
atypicalguy
08-15-2016, 03:33 AM #67

(08-10-2016, 07:08 AM)Hario
(08-09-2016, 01:21 PM)swatmugga [Image: Unbenanntasd.png]

Soon i will put a self developed fast scroll exhaust mainfold. Its a little bit more than only the design. There where thoughts about special material for high temperatur duty and low friction bearings. I will upload test results in a few weeks.

Compared to the other solutions i saw in the internet you have the perfect flow in all situations. At low load the window is closed and all cylinders fire in one scroll. At high load you have the advantage of an twin scroll mainfold with better gas flow through and no gas whirls.

I think about sell this parts also.

Good idea, I am developing a quick spool valve but more like the normal ones because I can make it for free..

For materials my thoughts were make the housing from SS and the flap from mild, this way as it heats up it will not bind (because SS expands more than steel), so it will get looser as it heats not tighter.

Will it be milled from a billet or fabricated??

Beers.
You could ask those black smoke guys what they used for their exhaust diverted butterfly pivot valve. As I recall the pivot rod bent impressively in the first version.

swatmugga
GT2256V

130
09-30-2016, 10:27 AM #68
I have so much to do right now, but here is a small progress update Smile

[Image: IMG-20160929-WA0005.jpg]
swatmugga
09-30-2016, 10:27 AM #68

I have so much to do right now, but here is a small progress update Smile

[Image: IMG-20160929-WA0005.jpg]

juggs
Naturally-aspirated

16
10-02-2016, 11:42 AM #69
How come you are swapping to an automatic transmission?
What flywheel did you mount up the c270 Cdi clutch up to & was it a direct fit?
juggs
10-02-2016, 11:42 AM #69

How come you are swapping to an automatic transmission?
What flywheel did you mount up the c270 Cdi clutch up to & was it a direct fit?

swatmugga
GT2256V

130
10-05-2016, 03:15 PM #70
i was a little fucked up because of jearking happening on the w124 cars. Also i didnt like the sinter disk. Its a every day car.

---> New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_mYi9py1U
swatmugga
10-05-2016, 03:15 PM #70

i was a little fucked up because of jearking happening on the w124 cars. Also i didnt like the sinter disk. Its a every day car.

---> New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_mYi9py1U

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