too much headache
too much headache
i am from Rhodes/Greece and have a Gwagen.
my problem is engine trouble(what else) my car has the om602de29la engine "2.9td" i was wondering if it is possible to use the IP of the normaly aspirated(non turbo) 2.9 engine (upgrated offcourse) to gain some more power and which turbo should i use to upgrate the OEM turbo?
thank you guys!!
offroadbakos
02-03-2010, 02:38 AM #1hi everybody!!
i am from Rhodes/Greece and have a Gwagen.
my problem is engine trouble(what else) my car has the om602de29la engine "2.9td" i was wondering if it is possible to use the IP of the normaly aspirated(non turbo) 2.9 engine (upgrated offcourse) to gain some more power and which turbo should i use to upgrate the OEM turbo?
thank you guys!!
Take a look at this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3CFRhp0HI0
ForcedInduction
02-03-2010, 03:11 AM
#2
Yes and no. Your engine has a rotary pump while older engines have an inline pump.
Take a look at this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3CFRhp0HI0
my main goal is to get rid of all electronics,i also have a om602 N/A running engine would it be preferable to turbocharge this engine?
offroadbakos
02-03-2010, 03:22 AM #3my basic problem is that the immobilizer kicks in every now and then and leaves me stranded
my main goal is to get rid of all electronics,i also have a om602 N/A running engine would it be preferable to turbocharge this engine?
Its without IMMO.
Its hard to put inline pump to this engine, you need to cut out place for bigger pump sprocket with injection timing regulation. That means that you must disasamble all engine. I make this, but better option is original VE pump.
G300TD(OM606.964) & 250GD(OM605.960)Trophy raid
Take ECU from Sprinter with Bosch Nr 0281001496 or 0281001497.
Its without IMMO.
Its hard to put inline pump to this engine, you need to cut out place for bigger pump sprocket with injection timing regulation. That means that you must disasamble all engine. I make this, but better option is original VE pump.
G300TD(OM606.964) & 250GD(OM605.960)Trophy raid
offroadbakos
02-05-2010, 11:39 AM #6thank u all for the help guys i'll keep u updated on how i proceed on it
Anyway, welcome to the forum!
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
SurfRodder
02-08-2010, 11:29 AM #7Rodos, huh? Beautiful island!
Anyway, welcome to the forum!
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
(02-08-2010, 11:29 AM)SurfRodder Rodos, huh? Beautiful island!
Anyway, welcome to the forum!
yes only prob is that it gets too hot some times
offroadbakos
02-09-2010, 10:12 AM #8(02-08-2010, 11:29 AM)SurfRodder Rodos, huh? Beautiful island!
Anyway, welcome to the forum!
yes only prob is that it gets too hot some times
(02-09-2010, 10:12 AM)offroadbakos yes only prob is that it gets too hot some times
yeah, the Mediterranean breezes aren't as cool as those of the Pacific, but aside from that the climate and biome are very similar to S. California
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
SurfRodder
02-11-2010, 09:54 PM #9(02-09-2010, 10:12 AM)offroadbakos yes only prob is that it gets too hot some times
yeah, the Mediterranean breezes aren't as cool as those of the Pacific, but aside from that the climate and biome are very similar to S. California
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
i also would like to know what the average indication schould be on the pyrometer.
any info wellcome!!
offroadbakos
02-24-2010, 01:48 PM #10ok i have used the om602 with 95hp i mounted the inlet & exhaust manifold of the om602dela as well as the turbo and intercooler and filter.would it be sufficient to peak the in line IP or do i have to do more than that?
i also would like to know what the average indication schould be on the pyrometer.
any info wellcome!!
schould i also swap the rods,pistons etc from the om602de29la to the om602d29 or can i leave it as it is since i am not looking for a lot of hp 130-140hp max?
offroadbakos
02-25-2010, 02:13 AM #111 more question ..
schould i also swap the rods,pistons etc from the om602de29la to the om602d29 or can i leave it as it is since i am not looking for a lot of hp 130-140hp max?
According to the Finns the OM602D29 is one of the best N/A engines for turbo use for powers up to 180hp for more than that modifications are more than required if u want to be at piece of mind.
i will proceed with this as soon as possible sending my in line IP to myna and trying to source a new turbo GT2359V or GT2560R.
i'll try to keep u up to date
offroadbakos
03-15-2010, 01:50 AM #12after a few e-mails back & forth with Antii at myna i decided to go for the N/A 602 pump tuning costs for inline m pump 850-1050 euro while converting & tuning the rotary electronic pump to mechanikal can be way over 2000 euro.
According to the Finns the OM602D29 is one of the best N/A engines for turbo use for powers up to 180hp for more than that modifications are more than required if u want to be at piece of mind.
i will proceed with this as soon as possible sending my in line IP to myna and trying to source a new turbo GT2359V or GT2560R.
i'll try to keep u up to date
(10-06-2010, 06:32 AM)Jambo Hi offroadbakos,
Any progress on this yet and are you satisfied?
i drowned my engine ......so i bought a new one om605 turbo fitted a mechanikal IP from a om602 so as soon as finish with the fitting and fine tuning of this engine (work next season for the myna pump, hx30 or hx35 & manifold) cause i did not have much free time after work
i keep you posted
offroadbakos
10-07-2010, 01:48 PM #14(10-06-2010, 06:32 AM)Jambo Hi offroadbakos,
Any progress on this yet and are you satisfied?
i drowned my engine ......so i bought a new one om605 turbo fitted a mechanikal IP from a om602 so as soon as finish with the fitting and fine tuning of this engine (work next season for the myna pump, hx30 or hx35 & manifold) cause i did not have much free time after work i keep you posted
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