STD Tuning Engine cone\cold air intake filter/pipe QUESTION!!!

cone\cold air intake filter/pipe QUESTION!!!

cone\cold air intake filter/pipe QUESTION!!!

 
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
 
turbo85
garret/air research T3 turbocharged

12
04-24-2010, 02:20 PM #1
I have an 85 300d turbo w123 with the original 617. I have bypassed the original air filter and housing due to the fact that the mounts on it broke and because of its vibrating and free will/ movement it had almost destroyed/separated the sheet metal part of the hood from the hood frame\reinforcements that it was glued to from the factory, plus it made a god awful clacking\ rattling noise that was embarrassing at a stop light. I have a turbo hose (possibly modified) from an older Benz diesel that takes the oil mist from the valve cover and runs it through the turbo, the part of the tube where the housing would go has a mouth that measures just shy of 3.5 inch I am currently running a homemade air filter on it (long story don’t ask unless desperate for cheap temporary fix) on the first I will be buying a (conical/cone shaped air filter) I want/need to know which is the best to use (if possible be specific about size, brand, length, type, and best performing/ band for your buck) also if any what modifications I will need to perform, and what tubing to use if current intake tube is not recommended.
This post was last modified: 04-25-2010, 07:00 AM by ForcedInduction.
turbo85
04-24-2010, 02:20 PM #1

I have an 85 300d turbo w123 with the original 617. I have bypassed the original air filter and housing due to the fact that the mounts on it broke and because of its vibrating and free will/ movement it had almost destroyed/separated the sheet metal part of the hood from the hood frame\reinforcements that it was glued to from the factory, plus it made a god awful clacking\ rattling noise that was embarrassing at a stop light. I have a turbo hose (possibly modified) from an older Benz diesel that takes the oil mist from the valve cover and runs it through the turbo, the part of the tube where the housing would go has a mouth that measures just shy of 3.5 inch I am currently running a homemade air filter on it (long story don’t ask unless desperate for cheap temporary fix) on the first I will be buying a (conical/cone shaped air filter) I want/need to know which is the best to use (if possible be specific about size, brand, length, type, and best performing/ band for your buck) also if any what modifications I will need to perform, and what tubing to use if current intake tube is not recommended.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
04-25-2010, 07:06 AM #2
Please don't post your phone number or e-mail on any forum (not just here). It makes easy farming for spammers and malicious individuals.

This is what I'm currently using.
http://www.framcatalog.com/PartDetailWin...&pn=CA8038
It has 4" ABS pipe with a 4-2.5" reducer for the turbo inlet for minimal air velocity. It lasts 1-2 years before reaching 15"H2O restriction and it will fit the stock engine with A/C.
   
This post was last modified: 04-25-2010, 07:06 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
04-25-2010, 07:06 AM #2

Please don't post your phone number or e-mail on any forum (not just here). It makes easy farming for spammers and malicious individuals.

This is what I'm currently using.
http://www.framcatalog.com/PartDetailWin...&pn=CA8038
It has 4" ABS pipe with a 4-2.5" reducer for the turbo inlet for minimal air velocity. It lasts 1-2 years before reaching 15"H2O restriction and it will fit the stock engine with A/C.
   

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
04-28-2010, 09:02 AM #3
Where did you find a 4 to 2.5" reducer?

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
04-28-2010, 09:02 AM #3

Where did you find a 4 to 2.5" reducer?


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
04-28-2010, 01:53 PM #4
Home Depot.
ForcedInduction
04-28-2010, 01:53 PM #4

Home Depot.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
04-28-2010, 01:54 PM #5
No the silicone reducer (I did miss the part about the ABS pipe, I was wondering how that worked). Ordered the WIX version of the filter today to replace my GM box....

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
04-28-2010, 01:54 PM #5

No the silicone reducer (I did miss the part about the ABS pipe, I was wondering how that worked). Ordered the WIX version of the filter today to replace my GM box....


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
04-29-2010, 05:55 AM #6
The 4-2.5 filter reducer is a home depot rubber plumbing reducer.

Basically this: http://www.homedepot.com/Building-Materi...ogId=10053

The 2-3 90* elbow from the turbo to intercooler is generic from ebay.
Here is a better picture from today.
This post was last modified: 04-29-2010, 06:05 AM by ForcedInduction.
Attached Files
Image(s)
   
ForcedInduction
04-29-2010, 05:55 AM #6

The 4-2.5 filter reducer is a home depot rubber plumbing reducer.

Basically this: http://www.homedepot.com/Building-Materi...ogId=10053

The 2-3 90* elbow from the turbo to intercooler is generic from ebay.


Here is a better picture from today.

Attached Files
Image(s)
   

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
04-29-2010, 06:08 AM #7
Ah cool. I also need one for turbo to IC and my IC inlet is 4".

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
04-29-2010, 06:08 AM #7

Ah cool. I also need one for turbo to IC and my IC inlet is 4".


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
05-03-2010, 06:10 PM #8
I spent a few hours at Lowes AND Home depot and could not come up with the ABS bit or the reducer. Best I came on the reducer was 4"->3" and no ABS pipes at all. My filter is ~3.5" ID the 3" pipes were all just a bit too small. If you're willing to go shopping at HD up there I am willing to pay for the parts Big Grin.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
05-03-2010, 06:10 PM #8

I spent a few hours at Lowes AND Home depot and could not come up with the ABS bit or the reducer. Best I came on the reducer was 4"->3" and no ABS pipes at all. My filter is ~3.5" ID the 3" pipes were all just a bit too small. If you're willing to go shopping at HD up there I am willing to pay for the parts Big Grin.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
05-14-2010, 08:04 AM #9
My setup is a little different but this filter breathes much better than the 3.8L GM airbox.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
05-14-2010, 08:04 AM #9

My setup is a little different but this filter breathes much better than the 3.8L GM airbox.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
05-16-2010, 04:06 PM #10
I moved the old 8038 filter system to the 240 and built a new one for the 300. Its basically the same setup except I used an 8037 filter, a long radius tube, mounted the filter further from the fender to prevent it rubbing the IC hose and mounted the restriction gauge directly to the elbow. CCV is vented to the atmosphere, no oil to foul the turbo or intercooler!

   

The 37 has a 3.63" mouth instead of 3.59". Its not much difference, but its just barely enough for it to fit tightly over the 4" end of the ABS pipe without modification. Its the same length but 7.25" diameter instead of 6.5".

Cost
3" of straight ABS tube and ABS cement leftover from other filter system- about $9
ABS elbow- $4.91
Flex coupler- $6.52
Fram 8037- $19.99 (autozone)
Total: About $48 after tax.

I'm going to get a 2.5"-3.5" silicone reducer to replace the rubber sewer adapter. The rubber pipe works fine, but its a bit too flexible for my desire and too thick to mount flush on the 2256's mouth.
This post was last modified: 05-16-2010, 04:12 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
05-16-2010, 04:06 PM #10

I moved the old 8038 filter system to the 240 and built a new one for the 300. Its basically the same setup except I used an 8037 filter, a long radius tube, mounted the filter further from the fender to prevent it rubbing the IC hose and mounted the restriction gauge directly to the elbow. CCV is vented to the atmosphere, no oil to foul the turbo or intercooler!

   

The 37 has a 3.63" mouth instead of 3.59". Its not much difference, but its just barely enough for it to fit tightly over the 4" end of the ABS pipe without modification. Its the same length but 7.25" diameter instead of 6.5".

Cost
3" of straight ABS tube and ABS cement leftover from other filter system- about $9
ABS elbow- $4.91
Flex coupler- $6.52
Fram 8037- $19.99 (autozone)
Total: About $48 after tax.

I'm going to get a 2.5"-3.5" silicone reducer to replace the rubber sewer adapter. The rubber pipe works fine, but its a bit too flexible for my desire and too thick to mount flush on the 2256's mouth.

inkblotz
Thundering Turtle

47
05-17-2010, 09:10 AM #11
I buy from these guys fair price ships immediately.
http://www.siliconeintakes.com

Mark

1990 300GD SWB 463 Diesel W/ OM603A Turbo Diesel transplant
inkblotz
05-17-2010, 09:10 AM #11

I buy from these guys fair price ships immediately.
http://www.siliconeintakes.com

Mark


1990 300GD SWB 463 Diesel W/ OM603A Turbo Diesel transplant

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
05-17-2010, 10:52 AM #12
Ooo what kind of air box is that? Stock GD? Looks like it takes it feed from the front?

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
05-17-2010, 10:52 AM #12

Ooo what kind of air box is that? Stock GD? Looks like it takes it feed from the front?


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

mr_manny
Diesel Offroad Club

91
06-19-2011, 11:05 AM #13
would also love to run a fram CA8037 Smile

Have a question regarding silicon pipe/reducers:
My stock turbo inlet = 2-3/8 (60mm), would a 2-1/4" or 2-1/2" silicon pipe fit...or should I search for a 2-3/8"?

Never worked with silicon pipes before...never owned a turbo before :p

thanks,
manny

Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel Smile
mr_manny
06-19-2011, 11:05 AM #13

would also love to run a fram CA8037 Smile

Have a question regarding silicon pipe/reducers:
My stock turbo inlet = 2-3/8 (60mm), would a 2-1/4" or 2-1/2" silicon pipe fit...or should I search for a 2-3/8"?

Never worked with silicon pipes before...never owned a turbo before :p

thanks,
manny


Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel Smile

4rnnr33
TA 0301

69
06-19-2011, 09:01 PM #14
(06-19-2011, 11:05 AM)mr_manny would also love to run a fram CA8037 Smile

Have a question regarding silicon pipe/reducers:
My stock turbo inlet = 2-3/8 (60mm), would a 2-1/4" or 2-1/2" silicon pipe fit...or should I search for a 2-3/8"?

Never worked with silicon pipes before...never owned a turbo before :p

thanks,
manny

2.5 inch will work thats what i have on mine you just gotta make sure and get the clamp nice and tight
4rnnr33
06-19-2011, 09:01 PM #14

(06-19-2011, 11:05 AM)mr_manny would also love to run a fram CA8037 Smile

Have a question regarding silicon pipe/reducers:
My stock turbo inlet = 2-3/8 (60mm), would a 2-1/4" or 2-1/2" silicon pipe fit...or should I search for a 2-3/8"?

Never worked with silicon pipes before...never owned a turbo before :p

thanks,
manny

2.5 inch will work thats what i have on mine you just gotta make sure and get the clamp nice and tight

mr_manny
Diesel Offroad Club

91
06-21-2011, 09:53 AM #15
thank you sir...worked like a charm Smile

Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel Smile
mr_manny
06-21-2011, 09:53 AM #15

thank you sir...worked like a charm Smile


Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel Smile

808morgan
Naturally-aspirated

3
10-09-2011, 12:30 AM #16
    Can you show me more of this set up, what is that air box on the left and where is the air coming in, looks like it comes in under it, wow. I thought it would have to come from the front where the stock set up is? Until I saw this I was going to make a custom air box for a cone filter up front like in the picture I added here.

Thanks!


(05-17-2010, 09:10 AM)inkblotz I buy from these guys fair price ships immediately.
http://www.siliconeintakes.com

Mark

This post was last modified: 10-09-2011, 12:35 AM by 808morgan.
808morgan
10-09-2011, 12:30 AM #16

    Can you show me more of this set up, what is that air box on the left and where is the air coming in, looks like it comes in under it, wow. I thought it would have to come from the front where the stock set up is? Until I saw this I was going to make a custom air box for a cone filter up front like in the picture I added here.

Thanks!


(05-17-2010, 09:10 AM)inkblotz I buy from these guys fair price ships immediately.
http://www.siliconeintakes.com

Mark

cho
GT2559V

183
01-06-2012, 10:58 AM #17
Euroguys can go easily with setup of mine
in basics it is Italy based company that produces
those filters in metal housing so it is easy to avoid heat.
sprintfilter is the name. I have used 80/70mm.
with used tubing/seals from old filter housing.... it seats perfectly.


   

I made oil separator from original ... but in due bad weather
did not manage to plug it ...yet Big Grin

   
This post was last modified: 01-06-2012, 10:59 AM by cho.

500SEC euro gen II powered by OM617a stolen from 84 300SD .... with 280se transmission now Smile
----------------------------------------------------------
.
cho
01-06-2012, 10:58 AM #17

Euroguys can go easily with setup of mine
in basics it is Italy based company that produces
those filters in metal housing so it is easy to avoid heat.
sprintfilter is the name. I have used 80/70mm.
with used tubing/seals from old filter housing.... it seats perfectly.


   

I made oil separator from original ... but in due bad weather
did not manage to plug it ...yet Big Grin

   


500SEC euro gen II powered by OM617a stolen from 84 300SD .... with 280se transmission now Smile
----------------------------------------------------------
.

 
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
Users browsing this thread:
 1 Guest(s)
Users browsing this thread:
 1 Guest(s)