om606 into 240d?
om606 into 240d?
You can used the W126 M103 or OM603 engine mounts + 3*10mm thick plates ( two exhaust side one intake ) proven method.
I suspect ( and I could be wrong ) that M110 ( 2.8L inline 280TE W123 ) are the same as the M103/M104/OM603/OM606 Bolt Pattern
Also have to use a transmission that matches M10X, OM60X the current box wont work.
Maybe custom driveshaft and at least a OM603 pump & glow plug relay.
(03-20-2010, 10:10 PM)Kozuka You can used the W126 M103 or OM603 engine mounts + 3*10mm thick plates ( two exhaust side one intake ) proven method.so there is a difference between engine munts om603 and om606 (w210)?
I suspect ( and I could be wrong ) that M110 ( 2.8L inline 280TE W123 ) are the same as the M103/M104/OM603/OM606 Bolt Pattern
Also have to use a transmission that matches M10X, OM60X the current box wont work.
Maybe custom driveshaft and at least a OM603 pump & glow plug relay.
(03-20-2010, 10:10 PM)Kozuka You can used the W126 M103 or OM603 engine mounts + 3*10mm thick plates ( two exhaust side one intake ) proven method.so there is a difference between engine munts om603 and om606 (w210)?
I suspect ( and I could be wrong ) that M110 ( 2.8L inline 280TE W123 ) are the same as the M103/M104/OM603/OM606 Bolt Pattern
Also have to use a transmission that matches M10X, OM60X the current box wont work.
Maybe custom driveshaft and at least a OM603 pump & glow plug relay.
Yeah the W123/W126 used old style shock mounts and the W210 used pneumatic one-piece mounts (W201/W124 Style). Also have different positioning of the engine/transmission for each chassis. The Proven Method is also said to have tight clearance between the subframe/oilpan. I suspect that the bolt patten on the block for the mount bracket is the same as a W123 M110 as the OM603/OM606 (maybe 602/605 but 601 is like a M102 triangle instead of a rectangular shape) which might provide proper engine/gearbox position in the engine bay.
I also believe that a W123 M110 transmission would also work.
the m103 and om603 motor mounts from a w126 are the same?
3*10mm plates...meaning 30mm spacers for the motor mount?
Here is a video of a w123 280ce with an om606 non turbo witch is almost the same as an om606 and it has a stick shift!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejrb1YoYt9Y
hmm... wonder what he used for mounts...blurry vid but looked pretty basic and acquired, not fab'd.
Yea he also started with a 6 cylinder gas car so it may be the original 5spd transmission with the LH starter
so i could use the mounts of a 280 gas w123? got to keep an eye out at the jy
I'm not sure witch engine mount's he used but the engines are about the same length so transmission placement should be similar?
(11-07-2010, 10:49 PM)willbhere4u Here is a video of a w123 280ce with an om606 non turbo witch is almost the same as an om606 and it has a stick shift!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejrb1YoYt9Y
(11-09-2010, 02:15 PM)willbhere4u I'm not sure witch engine mount's he used but the engines are about the same length so transmission placement should be similar?
(11-07-2010, 10:49 PM)willbhere4u Here is a video of a w123 280ce with an om606 non turbo witch is almost the same as an om606 and it has a stick shift!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejrb1YoYt9Y
(11-09-2010, 02:15 PM)willbhere4u I'm not sure witch engine mount's he used but the engines are about the same length so transmission placement should be similar?
There is a bolt on 5 sleed for the 606. Use either a 190 m102 8vlv, m103 12v or the best option a getreg m102 16vlv tranny. All bolt up.
I have currently on my 603 the m102 8vlv 5 speed.
Some one was thinking the 6spd from a 230 kompressor may fit? but I'll be happy with a 5spd some day!
Yes the 6 speed from the w203 c230 m111, will fit any om60x. Of course you have to play around with the flywheel, and clutch issue, but it can be fitted.
Also on a side note few other people were being concerned in how tough the 6speed actually is. After all it was matted onto a motor that produced, 190hp, and possibly 230NM. So any om with an upgrade turbo and extra fueling could start mangeling up this tranny.
Your best bet is to stick with the getreg from the 16v,.
Here is a post from 190rev.net a fellow forum member went ahead with the swap, with good info aswell.
http://190rev.net/forums/showthread.php?t=35638
(11-09-2010, 11:01 PM)George3soccer Here is a post from 190rev.net a fellow forum member went ahead with the swap, with good info aswell.
http://190rev.net/forums/showthread.php?t=35638
(11-09-2010, 11:01 PM)George3soccer Here is a post from 190rev.net a fellow forum member went ahead with the swap, with good info aswell.
http://190rev.net/forums/showthread.php?t=35638
I have 220-270cdi 6-speed (716.640) on my OM606, no problems so far. Rated for 370Nm and engine now has ~600Nm. Gearbox itself bolts straight on. Custom flywheel of course. Sachs Race Engineering clutch pressure plate (M5, 240mm) with cdi disc.
(11-10-2010, 03:43 PM)muuris I have 220-270cdi 6-speed (716.640) on my OM606, no problems so far. Rated for 370Nm and engine now has ~600Nm. Gearbox itself bolts straight on. Custom flywheel of course. Sachs Race Engineering clutch pressure plate (M5, 240mm) with cdi disc.
(11-10-2010, 03:43 PM)muuris I have 220-270cdi 6-speed (716.640) on my OM606, no problems so far. Rated for 370Nm and engine now has ~600Nm. Gearbox itself bolts straight on. Custom flywheel of course. Sachs Race Engineering clutch pressure plate (M5, 240mm) with cdi disc.
(11-10-2010, 04:42 PM)Mylesofsmyles what'd you have to do to the flywheel?Sorry my English, but I can't quite follow..
(11-10-2010, 04:42 PM)Mylesofsmyles what'd you have to do to the flywheel?Sorry my English, but I can't quite follow..
(11-11-2010, 01:43 PM)muuris(11-10-2010, 04:42 PM)Mylesofsmyles what'd you have to do to the flywheel?Sorry my English, but I can't quite follow..
It is a custom fw because I wanted a single piece one (not 2-mass) and a decent clutch (M5 SRE). This setup will hold +700Nm and is as daily drivable as any stock car.
As 6-cyl cdi Mercs are practically all automatic, there is no decent oem flywheel-clutch setup available. No OM60x clutches are of help either. Sprinter clutches have been used, but I wanted mine to get the best bang for the buck, considering this is a daily driver.
(11-11-2010, 01:43 PM)muuris(11-10-2010, 04:42 PM)Mylesofsmyles what'd you have to do to the flywheel?Sorry my English, but I can't quite follow..
It is a custom fw because I wanted a single piece one (not 2-mass) and a decent clutch (M5 SRE). This setup will hold +700Nm and is as daily drivable as any stock car.
As 6-cyl cdi Mercs are practically all automatic, there is no decent oem flywheel-clutch setup available. No OM60x clutches are of help either. Sprinter clutches have been used, but I wanted mine to get the best bang for the buck, considering this is a daily driver.
(11-08-2010, 11:43 PM)Mylesofsmyles so i could use the mounts of a 280 gas w123? got to keep an eye out at the jy
(11-08-2010, 11:43 PM)Mylesofsmyles so i could use the mounts of a 280 gas w123? got to keep an eye out at the jy