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mgnf
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01-03-2012, 05:28 PM #1
Hi, my name is mark a new member to the forum!
I've been influinced by the Finnish legends and their drift merc!
I have to build one of these as its all I've thought of since I saw YouTube!

So the plan is...
I'm606 motor (I know for a 1996 300td so will have to check its the right motor)
Hx 35 from a leyland daf
Tubular manifold from a skyline but with the plates cut off and changed to merc
I understand I need a 603 mechanical pump
7.5mm elements
The biggest lorry intwrcooler I can get my hands on

I don't care about smoke or bad idle
I want huge wastegate chatter and turbo lag

Planning to build in the 300 then transfer to a SWB ford transit

I've had a lot of experience with transit turbo DI's and BMW Tds engines.

Anyone know how I identify the 606 and where I will find a mechanical pump?
Anything else I need anyone can think of will be a help!!
I'm in Dorset England!!

Mark.

Mercedes sprinter 311cdi
mgnf
01-03-2012, 05:28 PM #1

Hi, my name is mark a new member to the forum!
I've been influinced by the Finnish legends and their drift merc!
I have to build one of these as its all I've thought of since I saw YouTube!

So the plan is...
I'm606 motor (I know for a 1996 300td so will have to check its the right motor)
Hx 35 from a leyland daf
Tubular manifold from a skyline but with the plates cut off and changed to merc
I understand I need a 603 mechanical pump
7.5mm elements
The biggest lorry intwrcooler I can get my hands on

I don't care about smoke or bad idle
I want huge wastegate chatter and turbo lag

Planning to build in the 300 then transfer to a SWB ford transit

I've had a lot of experience with transit turbo DI's and BMW Tds engines.

Anyone know how I identify the 606 and where I will find a mechanical pump?
Anything else I need anyone can think of will be a help!!
I'm in Dorset England!!

Mark.


Mercedes sprinter 311cdi

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
01-03-2012, 07:02 PM #2
Mechanical pump is from the earlier om603

om606
is in e300 95-99
oh well I guess even more years than that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM606_engine

I guess get the turbo one, right Wink

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
01-03-2012, 07:02 PM #2

Mechanical pump is from the earlier om603

om606
is in e300 95-99
oh well I guess even more years than that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM606_engine

I guess get the turbo one, right Wink


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

mgnf
Naturally-aspirated

22
01-03-2012, 07:12 PM #3
Is the om603 the same as a 606 but with a mechanical IP?
I'm quite sure the car I'm going to look at tomorrow in my local breakers yard is a 1996 e300 elegance??
Would I be correct in saying that's mechanical 3.0 24v engine? I'm fairly new to the Mercedes scene if you didn't guess!!
Ok I've got it the 606 is dohc and the 603 is sohc.
I'm assuming the 606 is better for my application?
And I will be after a turbo one for the under piston squirters
!!
Does the 606 come with mechanical fuel injection or is that solely on the 603?
This post was last modified: 01-03-2012, 07:18 PM by mgnf.

Mercedes sprinter 311cdi
mgnf
01-03-2012, 07:12 PM #3

Is the om603 the same as a 606 but with a mechanical IP?
I'm quite sure the car I'm going to look at tomorrow in my local breakers yard is a 1996 e300 elegance??
Would I be correct in saying that's mechanical 3.0 24v engine? I'm fairly new to the Mercedes scene if you didn't guess!!


Ok I've got it the 606 is dohc and the 603 is sohc.
I'm assuming the 606 is better for my application?
And I will be after a turbo one for the under piston squirters
!!
Does the 606 come with mechanical fuel injection or is that solely on the 603?


Mercedes sprinter 311cdi

larsalan
Superturbo

1,272
01-03-2012, 07:46 PM #4
I believe 606 are all electronic. But people do rewrite the chips and stuff like that. I thought om603 were 12v? Shows what I know. I can barely afford my old 617 Wink

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
01-03-2012, 07:46 PM #4

I believe 606 are all electronic. But people do rewrite the chips and stuff like that. I thought om603 were 12v? Shows what I know. I can barely afford my old 617 Wink


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

aaa
GT2256V

913
01-03-2012, 07:55 PM #5
All the 210 606 engines had electronic pumps. The 1995 124 606 was mechanical.
aaa
01-03-2012, 07:55 PM #5

All the 210 606 engines had electronic pumps. The 1995 124 606 was mechanical.

mgnf
Naturally-aspirated

22
01-04-2012, 05:54 AM #6
I'm assuming the 603 mechnical pump will straight swap for the useless electric one?

Mercedes sprinter 311cdi
mgnf
01-04-2012, 05:54 AM #6

I'm assuming the 603 mechnical pump will straight swap for the useless electric one?


Mercedes sprinter 311cdi

drumbreda
Naturally-aspirated

9
01-04-2012, 06:37 PM #7
in the uk early up to 96 W210 E300 where na later where E300 turbodiesel.
you will also need gearbox and clutch they where all auto
drumbreda
01-04-2012, 06:37 PM #7

in the uk early up to 96 W210 E300 where na later where E300 turbodiesel.
you will also need gearbox and clutch they where all auto

dieselboy
Rotatin 5500 times a minute

680
01-04-2012, 09:14 PM #8
(01-03-2012, 05:28 PM)mgnf I don't care about smoke or bad idle
I want huge wastegate chatter and turbo lag






Wat?!




Lemme guess you are young.




Both those statements are stupid.

-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
dieselboy
01-04-2012, 09:14 PM #8

(01-03-2012, 05:28 PM)mgnf I don't care about smoke or bad idle
I want huge wastegate chatter and turbo lag






Wat?!




Lemme guess you are young.




Both those statements are stupid.


-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.

mgnf
Naturally-aspirated

22
01-06-2012, 01:11 PM #9
This thing I found in the breakers yard is a turbodiesel 300 and its manual,
As to lag and idle, I don't care because I want something nasty, I want something violent and something that will embarrass an m5 while looking like a peice of crap.
Shiney things are for girls.

Mercedes sprinter 311cdi
mgnf
01-06-2012, 01:11 PM #9

This thing I found in the breakers yard is a turbodiesel 300 and its manual,
As to lag and idle, I don't care because I want something nasty, I want something violent and something that will embarrass an m5 while looking like a peice of crap.
Shiney things are for girls.


Mercedes sprinter 311cdi

Palmer
GTA2056V

93
01-07-2012, 04:35 PM #10
Before you confuse yourself with t and d

TD = Turbo Diesel
DT = Diesel Touring (estate non turbo)
TDT = Turbo Diesel Touring (estate turbo)


Smoke - unless you can get a dodgy mot then you should worry about it. Also i dont fancy a 3 point £60 fine by pulling away from a junction too quickly and shooting soot near a copper. Unfit for other road users etc cant see blah blah.

Shiny things arent just for girls, most of us take pride in our cars here.....
This post was last modified: 01-07-2012, 04:36 PM by Palmer.
Palmer
01-07-2012, 04:35 PM #10

Before you confuse yourself with t and d

TD = Turbo Diesel
DT = Diesel Touring (estate non turbo)
TDT = Turbo Diesel Touring (estate turbo)


Smoke - unless you can get a dodgy mot then you should worry about it. Also i dont fancy a 3 point £60 fine by pulling away from a junction too quickly and shooting soot near a copper. Unfit for other road users etc cant see blah blah.

Shiny things arent just for girls, most of us take pride in our cars here.....

 
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