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VNT/VGT and WG turbo information thread

VNT/VGT and WG turbo information thread

 
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ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
02-01-2009, 10:56 PM #1
This will be updated as new information is gathered.
Last update: 12/14/2010 Added Schwitzer S2EGL069
09/28/2010 Added BMW GT2556V
09/21/2010 Added GT2360V
9/20/2010- Updated BorgWarner compound HP turbo
8/29/2010 Added Garrett GT2359V

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Garrett "Single Sequential Turbocharger"- 2011+ Ford F-Series, 6.7L "Scorpion" Powerstroke

Compressor (outer)
Exducer: TBD
Inducer: TBD

Compressor (inner)
Exducer: TBD
Inducer: TBD

Turbine
Inducer: TBD
Exducer: TBD

[Image: Scorpion.jpg]

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Holset HE551V- 2002-2006 Cummins ISX

Compressor
Inducer: 71.75mm
Exducer: 108.1mm
16 blades


Turbine
Inducer: 86mm
Exducer: 75mm
12 blades

[Image: SwiftHolsetHE551V.jpg]
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Holset HE351Ve- 2007.5+ Dodge 6.7L Cummins
Discussion: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/hols...-t-83.html
Information on the actuator: http://delphi.com/manufacturers/cv/power...rt-remote/
Information on Holset VGT operation: http://www.diesel.org/UserFiles/File/Cum...an%201.pdf

Compressor
Exducer: 86mm
Inducer: 60mm
14 blades

Turbine
Inducer: 70mm
Exducer: 60mm
12 blades.

Total weight 47lbs

   

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Holset HE341Ve- 2006 Ford F650 with the 5.9L Cummins ISB
(About equivalent to a Garrett GT3576)

Compressor
Exducer: 76.5mm
Inducer: 53mm
14 blades
48 trim

Turbine
Inducer: 69mm
Exducer: 59.4mm
11 blades

Total weight 39lbs

   

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Holset HX/HY30- Various Cummins 4BTa and John Deere applications

Compressor
Exducer: 73mm
Inducer: 44mm
6 blades
36 trim

Turbine
Inducer: ?mm
Exducer: ?mm
? blades

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GTA2056V- 2007+ Dodge/Freightliner/Mercedes Sprinter 3.0L CDI.

Compressor
Wheel Inducer: TBD
Wheel Exducer: TBD

Turbine
Wheel Inducer: TBD
Wheel Exducer: TBD

[Image: TC-GT761154-V.jpg]

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GTA2056V- Jeep Liberty 2.8L CRD
Discussion: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/gt20...t-146.html

Compressor
Wheel Inducer: 39.55mm
Wheel Exducer: 56mm (49 Trim)
Housing Inlet: 56mm/2.2"
Housing Outlet: 49.75mm/2"
.53 A/R

Turbine
Wheel Inducer: 47mm
Wheel Exducer: 42.7mm
.64 A/R

[Image: 20041005-dsc_6530.jpg]

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GT2256V- 2001-2006 Dodge/Freightliner/Mercedes Sprinter 2.7L CDI.
NOTE: The compressor housing covers are not interchangeable between the 01-03 and 04-06 series turbos. The 04-06 has a slightly larger (.5mm) compressor inducer.

Compressor
Inducer: 40.3mm
Exducer: 56mm (51.8 Trim)
Housing Inlet: 60mm
Housing Outlet: 35mm
.53 A/R

Turbine
Inducer: 49.4mm (est.)
Exducer: 41.7mm
.64 A/R

(Late 2004-2006 electronic version pictured)
[Image: Turbo%20Mercedes%20Benz%20TC-GT2256VK-sprinter.jpg]

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GT2359V
OM613, OM648, AMG OM612DE30

Compressor
Inducer: 44.5mm
Exducer: 59.4mm
12 blades
55 trim
.51 A/R

Turbine
Inducer: 50.5mm
Exducer: 46.5mm
9 blades

[Image: GT2359V.jpg]

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GT2360V

Compressor
Inducer: 42.5mm
Exducer: 60mm
12 blades
50 trim

Turbine
Inducer: 50.5mm
Exducer: 46mm
9 blades

Credit to SurfRodder for the dimensions
[Image: GT2360V.jpg]

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GT2556V
BMW 730D P/N 454191-1

Compressor
Inducer: 40.3mm
Exducer: 56mm

Turbine
Inducer: 51.5mm
Exducer: 47mm

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GT2559V

Compressor
Inducer: TBD
Exducer: TBD

Turbine
Inducer: TBD
Exducer: TBD

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BorgWarner BV50
Porsche 997

Compressor
Exducer: TBD
Inducer: TBD

Turbine
Inducer: TBD
Exducer: TBD

[Image: BorgWarner%20BV50%20%28Small%29.JPG]

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GT3063KLV
Discussion: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/gt30...t-227.html
Most likely Hino Truck FD, FE, FF and SG Models

Compressor
Wheel Inducer: 43.7mm
Wheel Exducer: 63mm (48 Trim)

Turbine
Wheel Inducer: 53mm
Wheel Exducer: 47.4mm

[Image: attachment.php?aid=373]

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Garrett GT3782V- 2003-2005 Ford 6.0L PSD
http://www.grufmanbil.se/mektips/6.0l_20..._guide.pdf

Compressor
Exducer: 81.55mm 3.21in
Inducer: 58.00m 2.28in
.58 A/R

Turbine
Inducer: 72.25mm 2.84in
Exducer: 66.45mm 2.62in
.9 A/R

   

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BorgWarner compound turbos- 2008+ 6.4L Powerstroke

Model: 174080B
LP Compressor
Exducer: TBD
Inducer: 64.6mm

LP Turbine
Inducer: TBD
Exducer: TBD

Model: 174662
HP Compressor
Exducer: 74.04
Inducer: 50.8

HP Turbine
Inducer: 69.34
Exducer: 61.85

[Image: 0708dp_01_z+2007_ford_diesel_emissions_s...system.jpg]

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Wastegated turbos

Garrett/AiResearch T3-45 1978-1985 300D/TD/CD/SD (concurrently used with the K26 from 83+)

Compressor
Exducer: 60mm
Inducer: 40.5mm
12 blades

Turbine
Inducer: 62.5mm
Exducer: 43mm
11 blades
.43 A/R

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Garrett/AiResearch T3-50 1986-1987 300D/TD/SDL
Model: TB1359

Compressor
Exducer: TBD
Inducer: TBD

Turbine
Inducer: TBD
Exducer: TBD

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Garrett/AiResearch T3-55 1991-1995 S350/350SD/300SDL
Model: TBO390

Compressor
Exducer: TBD
Inducer: TBD

Turbine
Inducer: TBD
Exducer: TBD

[Image: tb0359.gif]

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KKK K26 1983-1985 300D/TD/CD/SD (concurrently used with the T3-45)

Compressor
Exducer: 65.9mm
Inducer: 39.6mm
36 trim
12 blades

Turbine
Inducer: 64.3mm
Exducer: 45.6mm
12 blades

Total weight 20lbs

   

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Schwitzer S2EGL069 (S2E, 103-2085)
Caterpillar 3116 170,185 HP, Various applications (Bus, Semi, GMC TopKick)
Discussion here: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/schw...-2059.html

Compressor
Exducer: 76.2mm
Inducer: 57.5mm
57 trim
12 blades
0.60A/R
4" mouth, 2" outlet, Map-width enhancement slot


Turbine
Inducer: 69.75mm
Exducer: 60.5mm
10 blades
0.70A/R
T3 flange w/split ports, 4" v-band outlet

[Image: S2E.jpg]

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Schwitzer S410 (0080962999)
2001-2008 Freightliner Turbobrake
MBE OM460LA 435

Compressor
Exducer: 96mm
Inducer: 66mm
47 trim
14 blades

Turbine
Inducer: 85mm
Exducer: 78mm
10 blades

   

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Holset HX40
Cummins ISC

Compressor
Exducer: 86mm
Inducer: 60mm
14 blades
NOTE: Same as the HE351 and HE351VE

Turbine
Inducer: ??mm
Exducer: ??mm
?? blades

[Image: HX40ISC.jpg]

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Holset HX55 (4036892)
Cummins ISX Signature 450

Compressor
Exducer: 98mm
Inducer: 69.35mm
50 trim
14 blades

Turbine
Inducer: 85.8mm
Exducer: 79.6mm
12 blades

   
This post was last modified: 05-16-2011, 04:50 PM by winmutt.
ForcedInduction
02-01-2009, 10:56 PM #1

This will be updated as new information is gathered.
Last update: 12/14/2010 Added Schwitzer S2EGL069
09/28/2010 Added BMW GT2556V
09/21/2010 Added GT2360V
9/20/2010- Updated BorgWarner compound HP turbo
8/29/2010 Added Garrett GT2359V

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Garrett "Single Sequential Turbocharger"- 2011+ Ford F-Series, 6.7L "Scorpion" Powerstroke

Compressor (outer)
Exducer: TBD
Inducer: TBD

Compressor (inner)
Exducer: TBD
Inducer: TBD

Turbine
Inducer: TBD
Exducer: TBD

[Image: Scorpion.jpg]

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Holset HE551V- 2002-2006 Cummins ISX

Compressor
Inducer: 71.75mm
Exducer: 108.1mm
16 blades


Turbine
Inducer: 86mm
Exducer: 75mm
12 blades

[Image: SwiftHolsetHE551V.jpg]
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Holset HE351Ve- 2007.5+ Dodge 6.7L Cummins
Discussion: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/hols...-t-83.html
Information on the actuator: http://delphi.com/manufacturers/cv/power...rt-remote/
Information on Holset VGT operation: http://www.diesel.org/UserFiles/File/Cum...an%201.pdf

Compressor
Exducer: 86mm
Inducer: 60mm
14 blades

Turbine
Inducer: 70mm
Exducer: 60mm
12 blades.

Total weight 47lbs

   

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Holset HE341Ve- 2006 Ford F650 with the 5.9L Cummins ISB
(About equivalent to a Garrett GT3576)

Compressor
Exducer: 76.5mm
Inducer: 53mm
14 blades
48 trim

Turbine
Inducer: 69mm
Exducer: 59.4mm
11 blades

Total weight 39lbs

   

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Holset HX/HY30- Various Cummins 4BTa and John Deere applications

Compressor
Exducer: 73mm
Inducer: 44mm
6 blades
36 trim

Turbine
Inducer: ?mm
Exducer: ?mm
? blades

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GTA2056V- 2007+ Dodge/Freightliner/Mercedes Sprinter 3.0L CDI.

Compressor
Wheel Inducer: TBD
Wheel Exducer: TBD

Turbine
Wheel Inducer: TBD
Wheel Exducer: TBD

[Image: TC-GT761154-V.jpg]

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GTA2056V- Jeep Liberty 2.8L CRD
Discussion: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/gt20...t-146.html

Compressor
Wheel Inducer: 39.55mm
Wheel Exducer: 56mm (49 Trim)
Housing Inlet: 56mm/2.2"
Housing Outlet: 49.75mm/2"
.53 A/R

Turbine
Wheel Inducer: 47mm
Wheel Exducer: 42.7mm
.64 A/R

[Image: 20041005-dsc_6530.jpg]

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GT2256V- 2001-2006 Dodge/Freightliner/Mercedes Sprinter 2.7L CDI.
NOTE: The compressor housing covers are not interchangeable between the 01-03 and 04-06 series turbos. The 04-06 has a slightly larger (.5mm) compressor inducer.

Compressor
Inducer: 40.3mm
Exducer: 56mm (51.8 Trim)
Housing Inlet: 60mm
Housing Outlet: 35mm
.53 A/R

Turbine
Inducer: 49.4mm (est.)
Exducer: 41.7mm
.64 A/R

(Late 2004-2006 electronic version pictured)
[Image: Turbo%20Mercedes%20Benz%20TC-GT2256VK-sprinter.jpg]

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GT2359V
OM613, OM648, AMG OM612DE30

Compressor
Inducer: 44.5mm
Exducer: 59.4mm
12 blades
55 trim
.51 A/R

Turbine
Inducer: 50.5mm
Exducer: 46.5mm
9 blades

[Image: GT2359V.jpg]

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GT2360V

Compressor
Inducer: 42.5mm
Exducer: 60mm
12 blades
50 trim

Turbine
Inducer: 50.5mm
Exducer: 46mm
9 blades

Credit to SurfRodder for the dimensions
[Image: GT2360V.jpg]

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GT2556V
BMW 730D P/N 454191-1

Compressor
Inducer: 40.3mm
Exducer: 56mm

Turbine
Inducer: 51.5mm
Exducer: 47mm

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GT2559V

Compressor
Inducer: TBD
Exducer: TBD

Turbine
Inducer: TBD
Exducer: TBD

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BorgWarner BV50
Porsche 997

Compressor
Exducer: TBD
Inducer: TBD

Turbine
Inducer: TBD
Exducer: TBD

[Image: BorgWarner%20BV50%20%28Small%29.JPG]

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GT3063KLV
Discussion: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/gt30...t-227.html
Most likely Hino Truck FD, FE, FF and SG Models

Compressor
Wheel Inducer: 43.7mm
Wheel Exducer: 63mm (48 Trim)

Turbine
Wheel Inducer: 53mm
Wheel Exducer: 47.4mm

[Image: attachment.php?aid=373]

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Garrett GT3782V- 2003-2005 Ford 6.0L PSD
http://www.grufmanbil.se/mektips/6.0l_20..._guide.pdf

Compressor
Exducer: 81.55mm 3.21in
Inducer: 58.00m 2.28in
.58 A/R

Turbine
Inducer: 72.25mm 2.84in
Exducer: 66.45mm 2.62in
.9 A/R

   

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BorgWarner compound turbos- 2008+ 6.4L Powerstroke

Model: 174080B
LP Compressor
Exducer: TBD
Inducer: 64.6mm

LP Turbine
Inducer: TBD
Exducer: TBD

Model: 174662
HP Compressor
Exducer: 74.04
Inducer: 50.8

HP Turbine
Inducer: 69.34
Exducer: 61.85

[Image: 0708dp_01_z+2007_ford_diesel_emissions_s...system.jpg]

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Wastegated turbos

Garrett/AiResearch T3-45 1978-1985 300D/TD/CD/SD (concurrently used with the K26 from 83+)

Compressor
Exducer: 60mm
Inducer: 40.5mm
12 blades

Turbine
Inducer: 62.5mm
Exducer: 43mm
11 blades
.43 A/R

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Garrett/AiResearch T3-50 1986-1987 300D/TD/SDL
Model: TB1359

Compressor
Exducer: TBD
Inducer: TBD

Turbine
Inducer: TBD
Exducer: TBD

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Garrett/AiResearch T3-55 1991-1995 S350/350SD/300SDL
Model: TBO390

Compressor
Exducer: TBD
Inducer: TBD

Turbine
Inducer: TBD
Exducer: TBD

[Image: tb0359.gif]

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KKK K26 1983-1985 300D/TD/CD/SD (concurrently used with the T3-45)

Compressor
Exducer: 65.9mm
Inducer: 39.6mm
36 trim
12 blades

Turbine
Inducer: 64.3mm
Exducer: 45.6mm
12 blades

Total weight 20lbs

   

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Schwitzer S2EGL069 (S2E, 103-2085)
Caterpillar 3116 170,185 HP, Various applications (Bus, Semi, GMC TopKick)
Discussion here: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/schw...-2059.html

Compressor
Exducer: 76.2mm
Inducer: 57.5mm
57 trim
12 blades
0.60A/R
4" mouth, 2" outlet, Map-width enhancement slot


Turbine
Inducer: 69.75mm
Exducer: 60.5mm
10 blades
0.70A/R
T3 flange w/split ports, 4" v-band outlet

[Image: S2E.jpg]

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Schwitzer S410 (0080962999)
2001-2008 Freightliner Turbobrake
MBE OM460LA 435

Compressor
Exducer: 96mm
Inducer: 66mm
47 trim
14 blades

Turbine
Inducer: 85mm
Exducer: 78mm
10 blades

   

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Holset HX40
Cummins ISC

Compressor
Exducer: 86mm
Inducer: 60mm
14 blades
NOTE: Same as the HE351 and HE351VE

Turbine
Inducer: ??mm
Exducer: ??mm
?? blades

[Image: HX40ISC.jpg]

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Holset HX55 (4036892)
Cummins ISX Signature 450

Compressor
Exducer: 98mm
Inducer: 69.35mm
50 trim
14 blades

Turbine
Inducer: 85.8mm
Exducer: 79.6mm
12 blades

   

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
05-05-2009, 01:04 PM #2
What about this puppy : http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...:middle:us

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
05-05-2009, 01:04 PM #2

What about this puppy : http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...:middle:us


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
05-05-2009, 03:21 PM #3
Looks like a GT3788V. Probably removed because of carbon stuck vanes.
ForcedInduction
05-05-2009, 03:21 PM #3

Looks like a GT3788V. Probably removed because of carbon stuck vanes.

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
06-06-2009, 11:27 AM #4
Anybody got any info or opinion on this turbo?


Manufacturer - RENAULT, Model - MASCOTT, Year - 2003, Engine - ZD30CTi, HP - 154, CC - 3.0/4, FUEL - D, Model - GT2360V, Part Number - 726372-0005, O.E.M. Part No. - 7.701.475.400


   
   
   
   

Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.
DeliveryValve
06-06-2009, 11:27 AM #4

Anybody got any info or opinion on this turbo?


Manufacturer - RENAULT, Model - MASCOTT, Year - 2003, Engine - ZD30CTi, HP - 154, CC - 3.0/4, FUEL - D, Model - GT2360V, Part Number - 726372-0005, O.E.M. Part No. - 7.701.475.400


   
   
   
   


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
06-06-2009, 09:57 PM #5
Those have been popping up on ebay.co.uk from Japan. For 399-499 brit lb and up. Not such a bad price for 23frame. If I get a Garret this is probably what I will get. I have passed up on the 2056 as I feel it is to small for my wants.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
06-06-2009, 09:57 PM #5

Those have been popping up on ebay.co.uk from Japan. For 399-499 brit lb and up. Not such a bad price for 23frame. If I get a Garret this is probably what I will get. I have passed up on the 2056 as I feel it is to small for my wants.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

Kiwibacon
GT2256V

154
08-11-2009, 01:22 AM #6
(06-06-2009, 11:27 AM)DeliveryValve Anybody got any info or opinion on this turbo?


Manufacturer - RENAULT, Model - MASCOTT, Year - 2003, Engine - ZD30CTi, HP - 154, CC - 3.0/4, FUEL - D, Model - GT2360V, Part Number - 726372-0005, O.E.M. Part No. - 7.701.475.400

It should be a GT2052V, the ZD30 engine is a nissan motor which Renault gets to use as a shareholder perk.
Kiwibacon
08-11-2009, 01:22 AM #6

(06-06-2009, 11:27 AM)DeliveryValve Anybody got any info or opinion on this turbo?


Manufacturer - RENAULT, Model - MASCOTT, Year - 2003, Engine - ZD30CTi, HP - 154, CC - 3.0/4, FUEL - D, Model - GT2360V, Part Number - 726372-0005, O.E.M. Part No. - 7.701.475.400

It should be a GT2052V, the ZD30 engine is a nissan motor which Renault gets to use as a shareholder perk.

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
08-11-2009, 03:58 PM #7
that Renault turbo looks very similar to my Rajay turbo from 1974 I wonder if it would fit in my turbo kit with some mods

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
08-11-2009, 03:58 PM #7

that Renault turbo looks very similar to my Rajay turbo from 1974 I wonder if it would fit in my turbo kit with some mods


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

SurfRodder
Jackass Extraordinaire

611
08-12-2009, 11:11 AM #8
(08-11-2009, 03:58 PM)willbhere4u wonder if it would fit in my turbo kit with some mods

define 'some mods' Wink

pretty much anything will work with my definition of that...

W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62
SurfRodder
08-12-2009, 11:11 AM #8

(08-11-2009, 03:58 PM)willbhere4u wonder if it would fit in my turbo kit with some mods

define 'some mods' Wink

pretty much anything will work with my definition of that...


W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
08-12-2009, 03:18 PM #9
I would have to see one in person! But the input flange for the exhaust is 3 bolt holes like my Rajay one looks off set! I bet I could just drill another hole! In my exhaust elbow on the turbo side

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
08-12-2009, 03:18 PM #9

I would have to see one in person! But the input flange for the exhaust is 3 bolt holes like my Rajay one looks off set! I bet I could just drill another hole! In my exhaust elbow on the turbo side


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
08-12-2009, 05:33 PM #10
(08-11-2009, 01:22 AM)Kiwibacon
(06-06-2009, 11:27 AM)DeliveryValve Anybody got any info or opinion on this turbo?


Manufacturer - RENAULT, Model - MASCOTT, Year - 2003, Engine - ZD30CTi, HP - 154, CC - 3.0/4, FUEL - D, Model - GT2360V, Part Number - 726372-0005, O.E.M. Part No. - 7.701.475.400

It should be a GT2052V, the ZD30 engine is a nissan motor which Renault gets to use as a shareholder perk.

Here is the eBay ad about this turbo. This is the seller that I pirated the picture from. Currently He want $480 for the new turbo plus $95 overseas shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...3D1&_rdc=1


Seller is kinugawa_turbo


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This post was last modified: 08-12-2009, 05:34 PM by DeliveryValve.

Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
08-12-2009, 05:33 PM #10

(08-11-2009, 01:22 AM)Kiwibacon
(06-06-2009, 11:27 AM)DeliveryValve Anybody got any info or opinion on this turbo?


Manufacturer - RENAULT, Model - MASCOTT, Year - 2003, Engine - ZD30CTi, HP - 154, CC - 3.0/4, FUEL - D, Model - GT2360V, Part Number - 726372-0005, O.E.M. Part No. - 7.701.475.400

It should be a GT2052V, the ZD30 engine is a nissan motor which Renault gets to use as a shareholder perk.

Here is the eBay ad about this turbo. This is the seller that I pirated the picture from. Currently He want $480 for the new turbo plus $95 overseas shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...3D1&_rdc=1


Seller is kinugawa_turbo


.


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.

Kiwibacon
GT2256V

154
08-12-2009, 05:57 PM #11
DeliveryValve Here is the eBay ad about this turbo. This is the seller that I pirated the picture from. Currently He want $480 for the new turbo plus $95 overseas shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...3D1&_rdc=1


Seller is kinugawa_turbo


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Turbomaster do indeed call it a GT2360V, which seems strange considering the other applications of this engine have far smaller turbos.
That said, the naming conventions for garrettt VNT turbos seem a little flexible. You'll have to pull one apart and measure to know.

Renault Mascott listing about 2/3 down (look for 3.0/4 engine)
http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/applicat...s/renault/

Nissan pathfinder/mistral etc with same ZD30 using the GT2052V.
http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/applicat...rs/nissan/
This post was last modified: 08-12-2009, 06:01 PM by Kiwibacon.
Kiwibacon
08-12-2009, 05:57 PM #11

DeliveryValve Here is the eBay ad about this turbo. This is the seller that I pirated the picture from. Currently He want $480 for the new turbo plus $95 overseas shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...3D1&_rdc=1


Seller is kinugawa_turbo


.

Turbomaster do indeed call it a GT2360V, which seems strange considering the other applications of this engine have far smaller turbos.
That said, the naming conventions for garrettt VNT turbos seem a little flexible. You'll have to pull one apart and measure to know.

Renault Mascott listing about 2/3 down (look for 3.0/4 engine)
http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/applicat...s/renault/

Nissan pathfinder/mistral etc with same ZD30 using the GT2052V.
http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/applicat...rs/nissan/

SurfRodder
Jackass Extraordinaire

611
08-12-2009, 11:57 PM #12
(08-12-2009, 05:33 PM)DeliveryValve Here is the eBay ad about this turbo. This is the seller that I pirated the picture from. Currently He want $480 for the new turbo plus $95 overseas shipping.
Seller is kinugawa_turbo

got one on the way.. I'll take some measurements and let you guys know what its all about... now I gotta get my manifolds cleaned up and start putting my STD together...

W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62
SurfRodder
08-12-2009, 11:57 PM #12

(08-12-2009, 05:33 PM)DeliveryValve Here is the eBay ad about this turbo. This is the seller that I pirated the picture from. Currently He want $480 for the new turbo plus $95 overseas shipping.
Seller is kinugawa_turbo

got one on the way.. I'll take some measurements and let you guys know what its all about... now I gotta get my manifolds cleaned up and start putting my STD together...


W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
08-13-2009, 02:36 AM #13
(08-12-2009, 11:57 PM)SurfRodder ....
got one on the way.. I'll take some measurements and let you guys know what its all about... now I gotta get my manifolds cleaned up and start putting my STD together...


Cool! Do keep us informed when it arrives.

Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
08-13-2009, 02:36 AM #13

(08-12-2009, 11:57 PM)SurfRodder ....
got one on the way.. I'll take some measurements and let you guys know what its all about... now I gotta get my manifolds cleaned up and start putting my STD together...


Cool! Do keep us informed when it arrives.


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
08-14-2009, 04:05 AM #14
Added the Schwitzer S410. I found this turbo in the scrap bin and managed to save the two pressure actuators and the turbine/compressor wheels. It was trashed because the turbine housing has major heat cracks inside and the brake actuator lever broke.
   

The wastegate is very unusual. Its actuated with truck air rather than boost, its uses a rotating cylinder rather than a flat valve and the exhaust is vented out of the turbo past the exhaust brake.
   

The exhaust brake is unusual as well, and a Mercedes part. The vanes are contained in the turbo outlet and partially block the turbine's flow path rather than the turbo outlet as traditional. It can work as both an exhaust brake and a VGT style vane system to quicken spooling. Its almost an external version of Holset's VGT vanes. The turbo has a shaft speed sensor for the computer to prevent overspeed.
   
       

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Schwitzer S410 (0080962999)
2001-2008 Freightliner Turbobrake
MBE OM460LA 435

Compressor
Exducer: 96mm
Inducer: 66mm
47 trim
14 blades

Turbine
Inducer: 85mm
Exducer: 78mm
10 blades

[Image: attachment.php?aid=1103]
This post was last modified: 08-14-2009, 04:11 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
08-14-2009, 04:05 AM #14

Added the Schwitzer S410. I found this turbo in the scrap bin and managed to save the two pressure actuators and the turbine/compressor wheels. It was trashed because the turbine housing has major heat cracks inside and the brake actuator lever broke.
   

The wastegate is very unusual. Its actuated with truck air rather than boost, its uses a rotating cylinder rather than a flat valve and the exhaust is vented out of the turbo past the exhaust brake.
   

The exhaust brake is unusual as well, and a Mercedes part. The vanes are contained in the turbo outlet and partially block the turbine's flow path rather than the turbo outlet as traditional. It can work as both an exhaust brake and a VGT style vane system to quicken spooling. Its almost an external version of Holset's VGT vanes. The turbo has a shaft speed sensor for the computer to prevent overspeed.
   
       

--------------------------------------
Schwitzer S410 (0080962999)
2001-2008 Freightliner Turbobrake
MBE OM460LA 435

Compressor
Exducer: 96mm
Inducer: 66mm
47 trim
14 blades

Turbine
Inducer: 85mm
Exducer: 78mm
10 blades

[Image: attachment.php?aid=1103]

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
08-14-2009, 09:33 AM #15
you should figure out how to save it and put it on you car exhaust break oh yea!!! lol you could add a tach for the turbo as well!!!
This post was last modified: 08-14-2009, 09:34 AM by willbhere4u.

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
08-14-2009, 09:33 AM #15

you should figure out how to save it and put it on you car exhaust break oh yea!!! lol you could add a tach for the turbo as well!!!


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Kiwibacon
GT2256V

154
08-14-2009, 07:23 PM #16
(08-14-2009, 04:05 AM)ForcedInduction --------------------------------------
Schwitzer S410 (0080962999)
2001-2008 Freightliner Turbobrake
MBE OM460LA 435

Compressor
Exducer: 96mm
Inducer: 66mm
47 trim
14 blades

Turbine
Inducer: 85mm
Exducer: 78mm
10 blades

OM460LA being a 12.8L engine?
Kiwibacon
08-14-2009, 07:23 PM #16

(08-14-2009, 04:05 AM)ForcedInduction --------------------------------------
Schwitzer S410 (0080962999)
2001-2008 Freightliner Turbobrake
MBE OM460LA 435

Compressor
Exducer: 96mm
Inducer: 66mm
47 trim
14 blades

Turbine
Inducer: 85mm
Exducer: 78mm
10 blades

OM460LA being a 12.8L engine?

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
08-14-2009, 09:04 PM #17
Yes.
ForcedInduction
08-14-2009, 09:04 PM #17

Yes.

SurfRodder
Jackass Extraordinaire

611
08-28-2009, 01:14 AM #18
(08-13-2009, 02:36 AM)DeliveryValve Cool! Do keep us informed when it arrives.

It arrived the other day.. looks pretty sweet... Ill try to take some measurements when time allows...perhaps this weekend.

W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62
SurfRodder
08-28-2009, 01:14 AM #18

(08-13-2009, 02:36 AM)DeliveryValve Cool! Do keep us informed when it arrives.

It arrived the other day.. looks pretty sweet... Ill try to take some measurements when time allows...perhaps this weekend.


W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
08-31-2009, 09:30 PM #19
NOTE: The compressor housing covers are not interchangeable between the 01-03 and 04-06 series turbos. The 04-06 has a slightly larger (.5mm) compressor inducer.
Quote:GT2256V- 2001-2006 Dodge/Freightliner/Mercedes Sprinter 2.7L CDI.

Compressor
Wheel Inducer: 40.3mm
Wheel Exducer: 56mm (51.8 Trim)
Housing Inlet: 60mm
Housing Outlet: 35mm
.53 A/R

Turbine
Wheel Inducer: 49.4mm (est.)
Wheel Exducer: 41.7mm
.64 A/R

(Late 2005-2007 electronic version pictured)
ForcedInduction
08-31-2009, 09:30 PM #19

NOTE: The compressor housing covers are not interchangeable between the 01-03 and 04-06 series turbos. The 04-06 has a slightly larger (.5mm) compressor inducer.

Quote:GT2256V- 2001-2006 Dodge/Freightliner/Mercedes Sprinter 2.7L CDI.

Compressor
Wheel Inducer: 40.3mm
Wheel Exducer: 56mm (51.8 Trim)
Housing Inlet: 60mm
Housing Outlet: 35mm
.53 A/R

Turbine
Wheel Inducer: 49.4mm (est.)
Wheel Exducer: 41.7mm
.64 A/R

(Late 2005-2007 electronic version pictured)

Ian White
machinemanjr

22
10-06-2009, 12:29 PM #20
Lance, What did you find with the Schwitzer Turbo? What exactly is the "scorpion" turbocharger?
Ian White
10-06-2009, 12:29 PM #20

Lance, What did you find with the Schwitzer Turbo? What exactly is the "scorpion" turbocharger?

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
10-06-2009, 03:10 PM #21
(08-28-2009, 01:14 AM)SurfRodder ....
It arrived the other day.. looks pretty sweet... Ill try to take some measurements when time allows...perhaps this weekend.



Got an update yet? Very curious...




.

Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
10-06-2009, 03:10 PM #21

(08-28-2009, 01:14 AM)SurfRodder ....
It arrived the other day.. looks pretty sweet... Ill try to take some measurements when time allows...perhaps this weekend.



Got an update yet? Very curious...




.


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.

SurfRodder
Jackass Extraordinaire

611
10-07-2009, 10:05 PM #22
(10-06-2009, 03:10 PM)DeliveryValve Got an update yet? Very curious...

yeah man, sorry for slacking, but life (read work & school) gets in the way... I just opened the sealed bag it was in tonight and took some pics and preliminary measurements. I dont have the time to tear it down to measure the specs of the compressor/turbine right now, that's what I was waiting to do, but this'll give you an idea of what Im working with.
something worth noting, this will be in the opposite orientation from the stock turbo (fresh air in comes from the aft end and exhaust out will be towards the front end on the car)


here's the inlet for the compressor, ID 46mm
   

and the compressor outlet 48mm OD, with a 50mm lip and 40mm ID
   

the linkage for the 'vane'... I havent hooked up Mr. vacuum pump to her yet to see how she responds.
   

turbine inlet 41mm ID
   

turbine out 52.5mm ID
   
This post was last modified: 10-07-2009, 10:08 PM by SurfRodder.

W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62
SurfRodder
10-07-2009, 10:05 PM #22

(10-06-2009, 03:10 PM)DeliveryValve Got an update yet? Very curious...

yeah man, sorry for slacking, but life (read work & school) gets in the way... I just opened the sealed bag it was in tonight and took some pics and preliminary measurements. I dont have the time to tear it down to measure the specs of the compressor/turbine right now, that's what I was waiting to do, but this'll give you an idea of what Im working with.
something worth noting, this will be in the opposite orientation from the stock turbo (fresh air in comes from the aft end and exhaust out will be towards the front end on the car)


here's the inlet for the compressor, ID 46mm
   

and the compressor outlet 48mm OD, with a 50mm lip and 40mm ID
   

the linkage for the 'vane'... I havent hooked up Mr. vacuum pump to her yet to see how she responds.
   

turbine inlet 41mm ID
   

turbine out 52.5mm ID
   


W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62

lars
Unregistered

39
11-15-2009, 10:37 AM #23
http://www.dieselevante.it/turbochargers.asp?idmarca

A good searchengine for turbos. Either by turbo or donorcar make and model
lars
11-15-2009, 10:37 AM #23

http://www.dieselevante.it/turbochargers.asp?idmarca

A good searchengine for turbos. Either by turbo or donorcar make and model

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
11-16-2009, 10:58 AM #24
(11-15-2009, 10:37 AM)lars http://www.dieselevante.it/turbochargers.asp?idmarca

A good searchengine for turbos. Either by turbo or donorcar make and model

It's a bit outdated Sad

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
11-16-2009, 10:58 AM #24

(11-15-2009, 10:37 AM)lars http://www.dieselevante.it/turbochargers.asp?idmarca

A good searchengine for turbos. Either by turbo or donorcar make and model

It's a bit outdated Sad


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

lars
Unregistered

39
11-16-2009, 11:11 AM #25
Howcome? Is it a repost or do you mean it is not covering the latest models? Is there a better searchengine out there?
lars
11-16-2009, 11:11 AM #25

Howcome? Is it a repost or do you mean it is not covering the latest models? Is there a better searchengine out there?

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
11-16-2009, 01:20 PM #26
It lags behind by a few years. It doesn't have data for many of the 08/09 years that occurred because of the emissions changes. It also lacks info on American models.
That doesn't mean its a bad resource, I use it quite often when researching non-USA vehicles.
This post was last modified: 11-16-2009, 01:21 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
11-16-2009, 01:20 PM #26

It lags behind by a few years. It doesn't have data for many of the 08/09 years that occurred because of the emissions changes. It also lacks info on American models.
That doesn't mean its a bad resource, I use it quite often when researching non-USA vehicles.

300SD81
GT2559V

187
11-20-2009, 10:43 PM #27
http://www.turbointernational.com/produc...ntType.asp

Lots of info on different turbos

Ich liebe meine Autos!

1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | 156K Miles | 2nd Owner | EGR Disabled [Removal Pending] | ALDA Removed | Straight Pipes | GT2256V??? | Laser Interceptor | Engine swap over summer, hopefully with GT2256V attached...

1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | Odo Stopped at 160K (at least 50K more) | EGR Disabled | ALDA All The Way Out | Straight pipes | FM-870 Remote Start Alarm System | B100 Biodiesel | AC Fixed x2 | Trunk crushed in Sad | Retired to garage.

Excessive speeding? It ain't excessive till I redline!
300SD81
11-20-2009, 10:43 PM #27

http://www.turbointernational.com/produc...ntType.asp

Lots of info on different turbos


Ich liebe meine Autos!

1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | 156K Miles | 2nd Owner | EGR Disabled [Removal Pending] | ALDA Removed | Straight Pipes | GT2256V??? | Laser Interceptor | Engine swap over summer, hopefully with GT2256V attached...

1981 Mercedes-Benz 300SD | Odo Stopped at 160K (at least 50K more) | EGR Disabled | ALDA All The Way Out | Straight pipes | FM-870 Remote Start Alarm System | B100 Biodiesel | AC Fixed x2 | Trunk crushed in Sad | Retired to garage.

Excessive speeding? It ain't excessive till I redline!

lars
Unregistered

39
12-17-2009, 01:34 PM #28
How much radial and axial play is acceptable on the turboshaft on a general basis? Especially Garrett GTv series.

I had a look at a used 2056v yesterday. It had about 1mm radial slack. no rubbing. Axial play was zero. Is that normal? Will the slack go away when it is under normal oilpress? I chose not to buy the turbo for now.
lars
12-17-2009, 01:34 PM #28

How much radial and axial play is acceptable on the turboshaft on a general basis? Especially Garrett GTv series.

I had a look at a used 2056v yesterday. It had about 1mm radial slack. no rubbing. Axial play was zero. Is that normal? Will the slack go away when it is under normal oilpress? I chose not to buy the turbo for now.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
12-17-2009, 06:31 PM #29
Radial 0.5mm
Axial 0.1mm
ForcedInduction
12-17-2009, 06:31 PM #29

Radial 0.5mm
Axial 0.1mm

cell
TA 0301

57
01-20-2010, 05:39 PM #30
here's a question I've never seen addressed:

what do you call the short section of pipe which joins the turbo to the intake manifold? the stock t3 / om617 setup has one of these. i've seen it referred to as an "intermediate tube".

I'm wondering where I'm going to find one for the GT2256V I have. I didn't realize this until it arrived, but the compressor exit tube is conjoined to an aluminum plate underneath it, such that you can't slip something over the end of it (like a silicone hose).

for those of you with 2256v's, what did you do at the compressor outlet?
cell
01-20-2010, 05:39 PM #30

here's a question I've never seen addressed:

what do you call the short section of pipe which joins the turbo to the intake manifold? the stock t3 / om617 setup has one of these. i've seen it referred to as an "intermediate tube".

I'm wondering where I'm going to find one for the GT2256V I have. I didn't realize this until it arrived, but the compressor exit tube is conjoined to an aluminum plate underneath it, such that you can't slip something over the end of it (like a silicone hose).

for those of you with 2256v's, what did you do at the compressor outlet?

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
01-20-2010, 06:41 PM #31
I call it the cone. I don't know why they did it, but the 2256 has an adapter of sorts that clips into the outlet and a normal hose clamps onto it.

I got a cast aluminum turbo tube from a saab 900 and welded it into the outlet.
This post was last modified: 01-20-2010, 06:43 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
01-20-2010, 06:41 PM #31

I call it the cone. I don't know why they did it, but the 2256 has an adapter of sorts that clips into the outlet and a normal hose clamps onto it.

I got a cast aluminum turbo tube from a saab 900 and welded it into the outlet.

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
01-20-2010, 07:06 PM #32
(01-20-2010, 05:39 PM)cell here's a question I've never seen addressed:

what do you call the short section of pipe which joins the turbo to the intake manifold? the stock t3 / om617 setup has one of these. i've seen it referred to as an "intermediate tube".

I'm wondering where I'm going to find one for the GT2256V I have. I didn't realize this until it arrived, but the compressor exit tube is conjoined to an aluminum plate underneath it, such that you can't slip something over the end of it (like a silicone hose).

for those of you with 2256v's, what did you do at the compressor outlet?

Here is what they come with. It has an O-ring that gets compress to hold it in.
Attached Files
Image(s)
                   

Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
01-20-2010, 07:06 PM #32

(01-20-2010, 05:39 PM)cell here's a question I've never seen addressed:

what do you call the short section of pipe which joins the turbo to the intake manifold? the stock t3 / om617 setup has one of these. i've seen it referred to as an "intermediate tube".

I'm wondering where I'm going to find one for the GT2256V I have. I didn't realize this until it arrived, but the compressor exit tube is conjoined to an aluminum plate underneath it, such that you can't slip something over the end of it (like a silicone hose).

for those of you with 2256v's, what did you do at the compressor outlet?

Here is what they come with. It has an O-ring that gets compress to hold it in.

Attached Files
Image(s)
                   

Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
01-21-2010, 07:34 AM #33
There is a band clamp that secures the two together.
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Image(s)
       
ForcedInduction
01-21-2010, 07:34 AM #33

There is a band clamp that secures the two together.

Attached Files
Image(s)
       

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
01-21-2010, 10:34 AM #34
(01-21-2010, 07:34 AM)ForcedInduction There is a band clamp that secures the two together.

Oh yeah, I forgotten about that piece.




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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
01-21-2010, 10:34 AM #34

(01-21-2010, 07:34 AM)ForcedInduction There is a band clamp that secures the two together.

Oh yeah, I forgotten about that piece.




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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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cell
TA 0301

57
01-21-2010, 11:26 AM #35
it just occurred to me that the mechanically and electronically actuated compressor housings are different. I'll try to post a photo later, but for the electronically actuated version, part of the compressor outlet is sort of embedded in a big plate of aluminum, so there's no way you could get something like a v-band clamp around it, and you also can't slide a silicone hose over it either.

the internal diameter appears to be 35mm. I may have to find a 35mm aluminum hose coupler and have someone tig weld that on. Ideally I'd have some sort of aluminum cone which would expand to a larger diameter, but I may have to just use several silicone expanders to do that.
cell
01-21-2010, 11:26 AM #35

it just occurred to me that the mechanically and electronically actuated compressor housings are different. I'll try to post a photo later, but for the electronically actuated version, part of the compressor outlet is sort of embedded in a big plate of aluminum, so there's no way you could get something like a v-band clamp around it, and you also can't slide a silicone hose over it either.

the internal diameter appears to be 35mm. I may have to find a 35mm aluminum hose coupler and have someone tig weld that on. Ideally I'd have some sort of aluminum cone which would expand to a larger diameter, but I may have to just use several silicone expanders to do that.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
01-21-2010, 06:17 PM #36
(01-21-2010, 11:26 AM)cell it just occurred to me that the mechanically and electronically actuated compressor housings are different

The compressor wheel trim is also different. The electronic turbo has a slightly larger inducer diameter.
ForcedInduction
01-21-2010, 06:17 PM #36

(01-21-2010, 11:26 AM)cell it just occurred to me that the mechanically and electronically actuated compressor housings are different

The compressor wheel trim is also different. The electronic turbo has a slightly larger inducer diameter.

INC
GTA2056V

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02-17-2010, 03:26 PM #37
Hallo!

Is it possible to get commpressor flow map for this turbo?

MB Part Nr. A 605 0960 499
Garret part Nr. 454203-1 GT25C

Its from OM605

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INC
02-17-2010, 03:26 PM #37

Hallo!

Is it possible to get commpressor flow map for this turbo?

MB Part Nr. A 605 0960 499
Garret part Nr. 454203-1 GT25C

Its from OM605


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02-17-2010, 05:50 PM #38
GT25C is too generic, we need to know the compressor measurements.
ForcedInduction
02-17-2010, 05:50 PM #38

GT25C is too generic, we need to know the compressor measurements.

INC
GTA2056V

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02-21-2010, 12:02 PM #39
(02-17-2010, 05:50 PM)ForcedInduction GT25C is too generic, we need to know the compressor measurements.

Cold side 39 and 52mm

Hot side 39 mm

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02-21-2010, 12:02 PM #39

(02-17-2010, 05:50 PM)ForcedInduction GT25C is too generic, we need to know the compressor measurements.

Cold side 39 and 52mm

Hot side 39 mm


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02-21-2010, 12:09 PM #40
This is about as close as I can find.

[Image: GT22compress.jpg]
ForcedInduction
02-21-2010, 12:09 PM #40

This is about as close as I can find.

[Image: GT22compress.jpg]

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04-06-2010, 08:01 AM #41
Exciting news, Cummins' 3.3L and 4.5L Tier 4 emissions engines will be getting VG turbos! That means at least two new models of VGT that will fit our flow range as well as or better than the HE341Ve. Big Grin

http://www.everytime.cummins.com/every/a...tier4.page?
http://www.everytime.cummins.com/every/m...4_vgt.page?
ForcedInduction
04-06-2010, 08:01 AM #41

Exciting news, Cummins' 3.3L and 4.5L Tier 4 emissions engines will be getting VG turbos! That means at least two new models of VGT that will fit our flow range as well as or better than the HE341Ve. Big Grin

http://www.everytime.cummins.com/every/a...tier4.page?
http://www.everytime.cummins.com/every/m...4_vgt.page?

winmutt
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3,468
04-06-2010, 10:15 AM #42
That still means atleast 2-3 years before they are cheap. Still.....

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
04-06-2010, 10:15 AM #42

That still means atleast 2-3 years before they are cheap. Still.....


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

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04-08-2010, 08:16 AM #43
Still too new.

Quote:I'm afraid it appears our records aren't updated for tier 4 yet. A search of the database available to us in Aftermarket provided only tier 3 data.
Sorry I can't help further.
Regards,
John.

John Torley
Aftermarket Engineering Leader
Cummins Turbo Technologies Ltd
tel +44 (0)1484 832186
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ForcedInduction
04-08-2010, 08:16 AM #43

Still too new.

Quote:I'm afraid it appears our records aren't updated for tier 4 yet. A search of the database available to us in Aftermarket provided only tier 3 data.
Sorry I can't help further.
Regards,
John.

John Torley
Aftermarket Engineering Leader
Cummins Turbo Technologies Ltd
tel +44 (0)1484 832186

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
05-28-2010, 09:57 AM #44
GT3571KLNV Anyone got data on these? Lookin in particular at 729274-11 729274-13 729274-17 729274-21

FI, you metioned the HE341ve was comparable to the gt357?
This post was last modified: 05-28-2010, 10:00 AM by winmutt.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
05-28-2010, 09:57 AM #44

GT3571KLNV Anyone got data on these? Lookin in particular at 729274-11 729274-13 729274-17 729274-21

FI, you metioned the HE341ve was comparable to the gt357?


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

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05-29-2010, 07:12 AM #45
(05-28-2010, 09:57 AM)winmutt FI, you metioned the HE341ve was comparable to the gt357?

Thereabouts.
ForcedInduction
05-29-2010, 07:12 AM #45

(05-28-2010, 09:57 AM)winmutt FI, you metioned the HE341ve was comparable to the gt357?

Thereabouts.

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06-12-2010, 06:01 AM #46
I added information for the Holset HX40.

Quote:Holset HX40
Cummins ISC

Compressor
Exducer: 86mm
Inducer: 60mm
14 blades
NOTE: Same as the HE351 and HE351VE


We have been having an issue with these turbos; A blade on the turbine fails causing the turbine housing clamp bolts vibrate loose and the turbo falls apart. The exact cause is unknown but it is a major issue, the manufacture date of the wheel I have was 04/08/09!

   
Clockwise: HE341VE, HX40, GT2256V, T3-45

2000 Gillig Phantom #3857 threw a rod cap a few weeks ago. Management made the bright choice of buying a factory drop-in instead of a shortblock. The bus is over 10 years old and they are already starting to exchange those models for 2006 LowFloor models with the bigger Cummins ISL engine.
   
   
   
This post was last modified: 08-12-2010, 07:06 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
06-12-2010, 06:01 AM #46

I added information for the Holset HX40.

Quote:Holset HX40
Cummins ISC

Compressor
Exducer: 86mm
Inducer: 60mm
14 blades
NOTE: Same as the HE351 and HE351VE


We have been having an issue with these turbos; A blade on the turbine fails causing the turbine housing clamp bolts vibrate loose and the turbo falls apart. The exact cause is unknown but it is a major issue, the manufacture date of the wheel I have was 04/08/09!

   
Clockwise: HE341VE, HX40, GT2256V, T3-45

2000 Gillig Phantom #3857 threw a rod cap a few weeks ago. Management made the bright choice of buying a factory drop-in instead of a shortblock. The bus is over 10 years old and they are already starting to exchange those models for 2006 LowFloor models with the bigger Cummins ISL engine.
   
   
   

majesty78
GT2559V

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08-12-2010, 06:51 AM #47
Could someone please post the correct part number from the Holset HE341Ve shown in the first post above?

I found 104 different variances by entering the keyword HE341Ve.....

Thanks on forward,

Alex
majesty78
08-12-2010, 06:51 AM #47

Could someone please post the correct part number from the Holset HE341Ve shown in the first post above?

I found 104 different variances by entering the keyword HE341Ve.....

Thanks on forward,

Alex

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08-12-2010, 07:10 AM #48
   
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08-12-2010, 07:10 AM #48

   

majesty78
GT2559V

226
08-12-2010, 07:24 AM #49
Ok, thx, pretty much one of the first turbos in my list, replaced by 3599517....

Regards, Alex
majesty78
08-12-2010, 07:24 AM #49

Ok, thx, pretty much one of the first turbos in my list, replaced by 3599517....

Regards, Alex

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3,628
08-29-2010, 09:22 AM #50
Added GT2359V information.
[Image: attachment.php?aid=3386]
This post was last modified: 08-29-2010, 09:22 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
08-29-2010, 09:22 AM #50

Added GT2359V information.
[Image: attachment.php?aid=3386]

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