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Was one year better than the others?

Was one year better than the others?

 
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bdiesel
Naturally-aspirated

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03-13-2011, 11:47 PM #1
I've been keeping an eye out and I'm ready to get back into a 300D. There's an 83 for sale somewhat locally, and it got me thinking about the differences. Looking back, I think I enjoyed my 85 most but that is purely subjective. Were there actual differences which would make one better than another?
bdiesel
03-13-2011, 11:47 PM #1

I've been keeping an eye out and I'm ready to get back into a 300D. There's an 83 for sale somewhat locally, and it got me thinking about the differences. Looking back, I think I enjoyed my 85 most but that is purely subjective. Were there actual differences which would make one better than another?

aaa
GT2256V

913
03-14-2011, 04:16 AM #2
85 had a taller final drive and a higher torque converter stall speed. Makes a difference in the feel of it.
aaa
03-14-2011, 04:16 AM #2

85 had a taller final drive and a higher torque converter stall speed. Makes a difference in the feel of it.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
03-14-2011, 04:44 AM #3
83 is the "best". Its got all the chassis updates and bug fixes of 82 without the emissions that choked 84 and 85.
ForcedInduction
03-14-2011, 04:44 AM #3

83 is the "best". Its got all the chassis updates and bug fixes of 82 without the emissions that choked 84 and 85.

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
03-14-2011, 04:39 PM #4
(03-14-2011, 04:44 AM)ForcedInduction 83 is the "best". Its got all the chassis updates and bug fixes of 82 without the emissions that choked 84 and 85.

What do the updates consist of?


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
03-14-2011, 04:39 PM #4

(03-14-2011, 04:44 AM)ForcedInduction 83 is the "best". Its got all the chassis updates and bug fixes of 82 without the emissions that choked 84 and 85.

What do the updates consist of?



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

aaa
GT2256V

913
03-14-2011, 05:27 PM #5
A turbo for one, if he meant 82 vs 81. For 83 vs 82 though, I remember carpeting and seatbelt changes.
aaa
03-14-2011, 05:27 PM #5

A turbo for one, if he meant 82 vs 81. For 83 vs 82 though, I remember carpeting and seatbelt changes.

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
03-14-2011, 09:52 PM #6
(03-14-2011, 05:27 PM)aaa A turbo for one

Nope. Turbo is the same from 1978-1985.

The updates were to the chassis frame design (Stiffer, eliminating the need for the beefy radiator crossmember), instrument cluster added the low fuel light check, belt buckle head design, and a few other things I'm forgetting.
ForcedInduction
03-14-2011, 09:52 PM #6

(03-14-2011, 05:27 PM)aaa A turbo for one

Nope. Turbo is the same from 1978-1985.

The updates were to the chassis frame design (Stiffer, eliminating the need for the beefy radiator crossmember), instrument cluster added the low fuel light check, belt buckle head design, and a few other things I'm forgetting.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
03-17-2011, 04:18 PM #7
(03-14-2011, 09:52 PM)ForcedInduction The updates were to the chassis frame design

Source?

I really like my 87.
This post was last modified: 03-17-2011, 04:19 PM by winmutt.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
03-17-2011, 04:18 PM #7

(03-14-2011, 09:52 PM)ForcedInduction The updates were to the chassis frame design

Source?

I really like my 87.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
03-17-2011, 05:46 PM #8
(03-17-2011, 04:18 PM)winmutt Source?

Open the hood on an early 82 and one made after August.
This post was last modified: 03-17-2011, 05:46 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
03-17-2011, 05:46 PM #8

(03-17-2011, 04:18 PM)winmutt Source?

Open the hood on an early 82 and one made after August.

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
03-17-2011, 06:11 PM #9
(03-17-2011, 05:46 PM)ForcedInduction Open the hood on an early 82 and one made after August.

Never noticed that. Maybe that explains the discontinued use of glued on fenders about that time also. It doesn't need it because the body is stiffer.




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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.
DeliveryValve
03-17-2011, 06:11 PM #9

(03-17-2011, 05:46 PM)ForcedInduction Open the hood on an early 82 and one made after August.

Never noticed that. Maybe that explains the discontinued use of glued on fenders about that time also. It doesn't need it because the body is stiffer.




.


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
03-17-2011, 06:52 PM #10
(03-17-2011, 05:46 PM)ForcedInduction
(03-17-2011, 04:18 PM)winmutt Source?

Open the hood on an early 82 and one made after August.

You are talking about the diagonal bracket? I was very much under the impression that this was AC vs non AC.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
03-17-2011, 06:52 PM #10

(03-17-2011, 05:46 PM)ForcedInduction
(03-17-2011, 04:18 PM)winmutt Source?

Open the hood on an early 82 and one made after August.

You are talking about the diagonal bracket? I was very much under the impression that this was AC vs non AC.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
03-18-2011, 08:09 AM #11
(03-17-2011, 06:52 PM)winmutt You are talking about the diagonal bracket? I was very much under the impression that this was AC vs non AC.

Yes. The one between the bumper and radiator.

ForcedInduction
03-18-2011, 08:09 AM #11

(03-17-2011, 06:52 PM)winmutt You are talking about the diagonal bracket? I was very much under the impression that this was AC vs non AC.

Yes. The one between the bumper and radiator.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
03-18-2011, 09:26 AM #12
My server is down at home but I am very certain that this was due to the AC system that the additional brace was required for the condensor. Getting OT. I will do some research and PM you.


(03-18-2011, 08:09 AM)ForcedInduction
(03-17-2011, 06:52 PM)winmutt You are talking about the diagonal bracket? I was very much under the impression that this was AC vs non AC.

Yes. The one between the bumper and radiator.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
03-18-2011, 09:26 AM #12

My server is down at home but I am very certain that this was due to the AC system that the additional brace was required for the condensor. Getting OT. I will do some research and PM you.


(03-18-2011, 08:09 AM)ForcedInduction
(03-17-2011, 06:52 PM)winmutt You are talking about the diagonal bracket? I was very much under the impression that this was AC vs non AC.

Yes. The one between the bumper and radiator.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

ForcedInduction
Banned

3,628
03-18-2011, 09:29 AM #13
(03-18-2011, 09:26 AM)winmutt My server is down at home but I am very certain that this was due to the AC system that the additional brace was required for the condensor.
No. Every 300D had AC.
ForcedInduction
03-18-2011, 09:29 AM #13

(03-18-2011, 09:26 AM)winmutt My server is down at home but I am very certain that this was due to the AC system that the additional brace was required for the condensor.
No. Every 300D had AC.

 
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