STD Tuning Drivetrain Diff info?

Diff info?

Diff info?

 
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Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
04-28-2011, 01:11 AM #1
I thought I saw a list of diff gear ratios in here based on model and year of car... Huh

If not does someone have that info or can a sticky be compiled?


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
04-28-2011, 01:11 AM #1

I thought I saw a list of diff gear ratios in here based on model and year of car... Huh

If not does someone have that info or can a sticky be compiled?



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
04-28-2011, 03:18 AM #2
Years, Model, Engine, Differential Ratio, Differential Case Size

R107

1st Generation mounting
1972-1980, 350 SL/SLC, M116, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1973-1980, 450 SL/SLC, M117, 2.65 / 3.06, 1.3 Liter
1981-1985, 380 SL, M116, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
1981-1982, 380SLC, M116, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
2nd Generation mounting
1986–1989, 560SL, M117, 2.47 / 2.47 ASR / 2.47 LSD, 1.3 Liter

W114
1968-1976, 230, M180, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter
1968-1972, 250, M114, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter
1972-1976, 250, M130, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter
1969-1976, 250C/CE, M130, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter
1972-1976, 280/E, M110, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter
1972-1976, 280C/CE, M110, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter

W115
1968–1976, 200, M121, 3.92 / 4.08, 1.1 Liter
1968–1976, 200D, OM615, 3.92, 1.1 Liter
1968–1973, 220, M115, 3.92 / 4.08, 1.1 Liter
1968–1976, 220D, OM615.941, 3.92, 1.1 Liter
1973–1976, 230.4, M115, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1973–1976, 240D, OM616.916, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1974–1976, 240D 3.0/300D, OM617.910, 3.46, 1.1 Liter

W116
1973–1980, 280S, M110, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1973–1980, 280SE, M110, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1974–1980, 280SEL, M110, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1973–1980, 350SE, M116, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1973–1980, 350SEL, M116, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1973–1980, 450SE, M117, 3.06 / 3.07, 1.3 Liter
1973–1980, 450SEL, M117, 2.65 / 3.06 / 3.07, 1.3 Liter
1975–1980, 450SEL 6.9, M100, 2.65 LSD, 1.3 Liter
1978–1980, 300SD, OM617.950, 3.07, 1.1 Liter

W123
1977–1978, 230, M115, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1977–1983, 240D, OM616.912, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1977–1981, 280E, M110, 3.58, 1.1 Liter
1978–1981, 280CE, M110, 3.58, 1.1 Liter
1977–1981, 300D, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1978–1981, 300CD, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1979–1980, 300TD, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1981-1984, 300TD, OM617.952, 3.07, 1.1 Liter
1982-1984, 300D, OM617.952, 3.07, 1.1 Liter
1982–1984, 300CD, OM617.952, 3.07, 1.1 Liter
1985, 300TD, OM617.952, 2.88, 1.1 Liter
1985, 300D, OM617.952, 2.88, 1.1 Liter
1985, 300CD, OM617.952, 2.88, 1.1 Liter
Euro Spec
1981-1985, 300TD, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1982-1985, 300D, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1982–1985, 300CD, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1978–1985, 240TD, OM616.912, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1978–1985, 280TE, M110, 3.58, 1.1 Liter

W126
1st Generation

1981-1984, 300 SD, OM617.951 3.0L I5, 3.07, 1.1 Liter
1985, 300 SD, OM617.951 3.0L I5, 2.88, 1.1 Liter
1984-1985, 380 SE, M116.963 3.8L V8, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
1981-1983, 380 SEL, M116.963 3.8L V8, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
1982-1983, 380 SEC, M116.963 3.8L V8, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
1984-1985, 500 SE, M117.963 5.0L V8, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
1984-1985, 500 SEL, M117.963 5.0L V8, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
1984-1985, 500 SEC, M117.963 5.0L V8, 2.47 /(Euro) 2.24 LSD/(Euro) 2.47 LSD, 1.3 Liter
2nd Generation
1989-1991, 300 SE, M103.981 3.0L I6, 3.46, 1 Liter
1988-1991, 300 SEL, M103.981 3.0L I6, 3.46, 1 Liter
1986-1987, 300 SDL, OM603.961 3.0L I6, 2.88, 1.1 Liter
1991, 350 SD, OM603.97 3.5L I6, 2.82, 1.3 Liter
1990-1991, 350 SDL, OM603.97 3.5L I6, 2.82, 1.3 Liter
1986-1991, 420 SEL, M116.965 4.2L V8, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
1986-1991, 560 SEL, M117.968 5.6L V8, 2.47 ASR/2.47 LSD/2.47, 1.3 Liter
1986-1991, 560 SEC, M117.968 5.6L V8, 2.47 ASR/2.47 LSD/2.47, 1.3 Liter


Notes: 107, 114, 115, 116, 123 and 126 differentials interchangeable up to 8/85.
9/85 and newer 107 and 126 are interchangeable.


   
   
   





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DeliveryValve
04-28-2011, 03:18 AM #2

Years, Model, Engine, Differential Ratio, Differential Case Size

R107

1st Generation mounting
1972-1980, 350 SL/SLC, M116, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1973-1980, 450 SL/SLC, M117, 2.65 / 3.06, 1.3 Liter
1981-1985, 380 SL, M116, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
1981-1982, 380SLC, M116, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
2nd Generation mounting
1986–1989, 560SL, M117, 2.47 / 2.47 ASR / 2.47 LSD, 1.3 Liter

W114
1968-1976, 230, M180, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter
1968-1972, 250, M114, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter
1972-1976, 250, M130, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter
1969-1976, 250C/CE, M130, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter
1972-1976, 280/E, M110, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter
1972-1976, 280C/CE, M110, 3.69 / 3.92, 1.1 Liter

W115
1968–1976, 200, M121, 3.92 / 4.08, 1.1 Liter
1968–1976, 200D, OM615, 3.92, 1.1 Liter
1968–1973, 220, M115, 3.92 / 4.08, 1.1 Liter
1968–1976, 220D, OM615.941, 3.92, 1.1 Liter
1973–1976, 230.4, M115, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1973–1976, 240D, OM616.916, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1974–1976, 240D 3.0/300D, OM617.910, 3.46, 1.1 Liter

W116
1973–1980, 280S, M110, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1973–1980, 280SE, M110, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1974–1980, 280SEL, M110, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1973–1980, 350SE, M116, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1973–1980, 350SEL, M116, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1973–1980, 450SE, M117, 3.06 / 3.07, 1.3 Liter
1973–1980, 450SEL, M117, 2.65 / 3.06 / 3.07, 1.3 Liter
1975–1980, 450SEL 6.9, M100, 2.65 LSD, 1.3 Liter
1978–1980, 300SD, OM617.950, 3.07, 1.1 Liter

W123
1977–1978, 230, M115, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1977–1983, 240D, OM616.912, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1977–1981, 280E, M110, 3.58, 1.1 Liter
1978–1981, 280CE, M110, 3.58, 1.1 Liter
1977–1981, 300D, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1978–1981, 300CD, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1979–1980, 300TD, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1981-1984, 300TD, OM617.952, 3.07, 1.1 Liter
1982-1984, 300D, OM617.952, 3.07, 1.1 Liter
1982–1984, 300CD, OM617.952, 3.07, 1.1 Liter
1985, 300TD, OM617.952, 2.88, 1.1 Liter
1985, 300D, OM617.952, 2.88, 1.1 Liter
1985, 300CD, OM617.952, 2.88, 1.1 Liter
Euro Spec
1981-1985, 300TD, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1982-1985, 300D, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1982–1985, 300CD, OM617.912, 3.46, 1.1 Liter
1978–1985, 240TD, OM616.912, 3.69, 1.1 Liter
1978–1985, 280TE, M110, 3.58, 1.1 Liter

W126
1st Generation

1981-1984, 300 SD, OM617.951 3.0L I5, 3.07, 1.1 Liter
1985, 300 SD, OM617.951 3.0L I5, 2.88, 1.1 Liter
1984-1985, 380 SE, M116.963 3.8L V8, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
1981-1983, 380 SEL, M116.963 3.8L V8, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
1982-1983, 380 SEC, M116.963 3.8L V8, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
1984-1985, 500 SE, M117.963 5.0L V8, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
1984-1985, 500 SEL, M117.963 5.0L V8, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
1984-1985, 500 SEC, M117.963 5.0L V8, 2.47 /(Euro) 2.24 LSD/(Euro) 2.47 LSD, 1.3 Liter
2nd Generation
1989-1991, 300 SE, M103.981 3.0L I6, 3.46, 1 Liter
1988-1991, 300 SEL, M103.981 3.0L I6, 3.46, 1 Liter
1986-1987, 300 SDL, OM603.961 3.0L I6, 2.88, 1.1 Liter
1991, 350 SD, OM603.97 3.5L I6, 2.82, 1.3 Liter
1990-1991, 350 SDL, OM603.97 3.5L I6, 2.82, 1.3 Liter
1986-1991, 420 SEL, M116.965 4.2L V8, 2.47, 1.3 Liter
1986-1991, 560 SEL, M117.968 5.6L V8, 2.47 ASR/2.47 LSD/2.47, 1.3 Liter
1986-1991, 560 SEC, M117.968 5.6L V8, 2.47 ASR/2.47 LSD/2.47, 1.3 Liter


Notes: 107, 114, 115, 116, 123 and 126 differentials interchangeable up to 8/85.
9/85 and newer 107 and 126 are interchangeable.


   
   
   





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Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
04-28-2011, 11:40 AM #3
Your the man!


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
04-28-2011, 11:40 AM #3

Your the man!



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
04-28-2011, 12:15 PM #4
I'll add to it later. Got more data for other models, just got to compile it all together.




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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
04-28-2011, 12:15 PM #4

I'll add to it later. Got more data for other models, just got to compile it all together.




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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
04-28-2011, 02:29 PM #5
'82 300D falls under the Euro Spec category?

I could have bet that my '81 300SD has lower gearing than the '82 300D but it looks opposite?


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
04-28-2011, 02:29 PM #5

'82 300D falls under the Euro Spec category?

I could have bet that my '81 300SD has lower gearing than the '82 300D but it looks opposite?



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
04-28-2011, 02:40 PM #6
(04-28-2011, 02:29 PM)Captain America '82 300D falls under the Euro Spec category?

My bad. I left out a whole section of 3.07 gear ratios.

But look at the engine model too. The Euro '82 has 617.912 n/a motor and the US '82 has the 617.952 turbo motor.


Anycase for everybody, if there is any misinformation in this list, please let me know and I'll correct it.









(04-28-2011, 02:29 PM)Captain America I could have bet that my '81 300SD has lower gearing than the '82 300D but it looks opposite?

They both should have a 3.07 ratio. Perhaps a tired torque converter?



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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
04-28-2011, 02:40 PM #6

(04-28-2011, 02:29 PM)Captain America '82 300D falls under the Euro Spec category?

My bad. I left out a whole section of 3.07 gear ratios.

But look at the engine model too. The Euro '82 has 617.912 n/a motor and the US '82 has the 617.952 turbo motor.


Anycase for everybody, if there is any misinformation in this list, please let me know and I'll correct it.









(04-28-2011, 02:29 PM)Captain America I could have bet that my '81 300SD has lower gearing than the '82 300D but it looks opposite?

They both should have a 3.07 ratio. Perhaps a tired torque converter?



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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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aaa
GT2256V

913
04-28-2011, 03:04 PM #7
Here's gsxr's 124 diff chart
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aaa
04-28-2011, 03:04 PM #7

Here's gsxr's 124 diff chart

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Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
04-28-2011, 03:39 PM #8
(04-28-2011, 02:40 PM)DeliveryValve
(04-28-2011, 02:29 PM)Captain America '82 300D falls under the Euro Spec category?

My bad. I left out a whole section of 3.07 gear ratios.

But look at the engine model too. The Euro '82 has 617.912 n/a motor and the US '82 has the 617.952 turbo motor.

Anycase for everybody, if there is any misinformation in this list, please let me know and I'll correct it.

(04-28-2011, 02:29 PM)Captain America I could have bet that my '81 300SD has lower gearing than the '82 300D but it looks opposite?

They both should have a 3.07 ratio. Perhaps a tired torque converter?

Well a tired engine, that's for sure. But hey! Could be me I CRS and apparently have trouble reading too lol


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
04-28-2011, 03:39 PM #8

(04-28-2011, 02:40 PM)DeliveryValve
(04-28-2011, 02:29 PM)Captain America '82 300D falls under the Euro Spec category?

My bad. I left out a whole section of 3.07 gear ratios.

But look at the engine model too. The Euro '82 has 617.912 n/a motor and the US '82 has the 617.952 turbo motor.

Anycase for everybody, if there is any misinformation in this list, please let me know and I'll correct it.

(04-28-2011, 02:29 PM)Captain America I could have bet that my '81 300SD has lower gearing than the '82 300D but it looks opposite?

They both should have a 3.07 ratio. Perhaps a tired torque converter?

Well a tired engine, that's for sure. But hey! Could be me I CRS and apparently have trouble reading too lol



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

dieselboy
Rotatin 5500 times a minute

680
04-29-2011, 01:17 AM #9
Huh. My friends 85 300td has 3.07 gears. According to that it should have 2.88. I'll look at the production date on it tomorrow.

Now we just need a interchangeable list.
This post was last modified: 04-29-2011, 01:18 AM by dieselboy.

-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
dieselboy
04-29-2011, 01:17 AM #9

Huh. My friends 85 300td has 3.07 gears. According to that it should have 2.88. I'll look at the production date on it tomorrow.

Now we just need a interchangeable list.


-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.

Raptelan
K26-2

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12-28-2011, 04:26 PM #10
My euro 1983 200D has a 3.92, isn't on the list above...
Raptelan
12-28-2011, 04:26 PM #10

My euro 1983 200D has a 3.92, isn't on the list above...

petespipes
Naturally-aspirated

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01-05-2013, 01:50 AM #11
Hi I realise this is an old thread but people searching for this type of info still hit this thread so it does need to be correct or corrected.

Deliveryvalve posted [in bold]

107,14,115,116,123 and 126 differentials interchangeable up to 8/85

please accept I have no practical experience with these diffs and have been relying on info sources such as this site

my goal is to put an LSD 3.69 ratio into my 74 w107 450slc,so the above info tells me I can swap a 1.1 litre casing into the space formerly occupied by a 1.3 litre casing.

As these casings are different widths,what is it that im missing?

I have 1.1 litre case,correct LSD and gears to complete the build of a 3.69 ratio LSD diff including spacer ring to utilise brand new 190e 16v LSD centre but do not have drawings of housings with dimensions so reading info here I assumed width to be same until I measured them today....

OK so whats the missing piece? different axles? im confused.
petespipes
01-05-2013, 01:50 AM #11

Hi I realise this is an old thread but people searching for this type of info still hit this thread so it does need to be correct or corrected.

Deliveryvalve posted [in bold]

107,14,115,116,123 and 126 differentials interchangeable up to 8/85

please accept I have no practical experience with these diffs and have been relying on info sources such as this site

my goal is to put an LSD 3.69 ratio into my 74 w107 450slc,so the above info tells me I can swap a 1.1 litre casing into the space formerly occupied by a 1.3 litre casing.

As these casings are different widths,what is it that im missing?

I have 1.1 litre case,correct LSD and gears to complete the build of a 3.69 ratio LSD diff including spacer ring to utilise brand new 190e 16v LSD centre but do not have drawings of housings with dimensions so reading info here I assumed width to be same until I measured them today....

OK so whats the missing piece? different axles? im confused.

aaa
GT2256V

913
01-05-2013, 12:57 PM #12
The axles would definitely be different. Don't know other details.
aaa
01-05-2013, 12:57 PM #12

The axles would definitely be different. Don't know other details.

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
01-06-2013, 09:19 AM #13
When you say width, are you measuring the distance between the C-clip grooves in the housings used to hold the carrier bearing races in?
raysorenson
01-06-2013, 09:19 AM #13

When you say width, are you measuring the distance between the C-clip grooves in the housings used to hold the carrier bearing races in?

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
01-07-2013, 10:06 AM #14
(01-05-2013, 01:50 AM)petespipes .
my goal is to put an LSD 3.69 ratio into my 74 w107 450slc,so the above info tells me I can swap a 1.1 litre casing into the space formerly occupied by a 1.3 litre casing.

As these casings are different widths,what is it that im missing?

I have 1.1 litre case,correct LSD and gears to complete the build of a 3.69 ratio LSD diff including spacer ring to utilise brand new 190e 16v LSD centre but do not have drawings of housings with dimensions so reading info here I assumed width to be same until I measured them today....

OK so whats the missing piece? different axles? im confused.

What I found in the w116 and w126, is the 1.3 liter case typically uses axles that are 2.5 cm shorter than the 1.1 liter case. The 107 most likely be the same. The only way to find out if the 1.3 liter axles would work, is to try them. They will slide into the diff with no problems, just need to space them correctly for locking in the "c" clips.

Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
01-07-2013, 10:06 AM #14

(01-05-2013, 01:50 AM)petespipes .
my goal is to put an LSD 3.69 ratio into my 74 w107 450slc,so the above info tells me I can swap a 1.1 litre casing into the space formerly occupied by a 1.3 litre casing.

As these casings are different widths,what is it that im missing?

I have 1.1 litre case,correct LSD and gears to complete the build of a 3.69 ratio LSD diff including spacer ring to utilise brand new 190e 16v LSD centre but do not have drawings of housings with dimensions so reading info here I assumed width to be same until I measured them today....

OK so whats the missing piece? different axles? im confused.

What I found in the w116 and w126, is the 1.3 liter case typically uses axles that are 2.5 cm shorter than the 1.1 liter case. The 107 most likely be the same. The only way to find out if the 1.3 liter axles would work, is to try them. They will slide into the diff with no problems, just need to space them correctly for locking in the "c" clips.


Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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petespipes
Naturally-aspirated

2
01-08-2013, 02:40 AM #15
(01-07-2013, 10:06 AM)DeliveryValve
(01-05-2013, 01:50 AM)petespipes .
my goal is to put an LSD 3.69 ratio into my 74 w107 450slc,so the above info tells me I can swap a 1.1 litre casing into the space formerly occupied by a 1.3 litre casing.

As these casings are different widths,what is it that im missing?

I have 1.1 litre case,correct LSD and gears to complete the build of a 3.69 ratio LSD diff including spacer ring to utilise brand new 190e 16v LSD centre but do not have drawings of housings with dimensions so reading info here I assumed width to be same until I measured them today....

OK so whats the missing piece? different axles? im confused.

What I found in the w116 and w126, is the 1.3 liter case typically uses axles that are 2.5 cm shorter than the 1.1 liter case. The 107 most likely be the same. The only way to find out if the 1.3 liter axles would work, is to try them. They will slide into the diff with no problems, just need to space them correctly for locking in the "c" clips.

Thankyou for replies.
I am trying to put together the parts while the car which is to recieve the diff/axles is still on the road.
To achieve this I will try to research this axle size and type question.
I have compared the w123 and w107 parts numbers for wheel bearings and they are different,hubs are same.[have a 123 parts car]
besides length differences I will also need to know if the splines etc do interchange.
If I had 3 wishes just now one might be used to compile a list of mercedes axles,lengths and compatibility regarding which axle ends would fit what chassis.
I know of mercedes race cars using weird diffs [r200 nissan] utilising cut and shut axles but hoping to avoid that extreme.
Anybody seen an axle compilation or anything useful.probably need to ask in the right place doh.
petespipes
01-08-2013, 02:40 AM #15

(01-07-2013, 10:06 AM)DeliveryValve
(01-05-2013, 01:50 AM)petespipes .
my goal is to put an LSD 3.69 ratio into my 74 w107 450slc,so the above info tells me I can swap a 1.1 litre casing into the space formerly occupied by a 1.3 litre casing.

As these casings are different widths,what is it that im missing?

I have 1.1 litre case,correct LSD and gears to complete the build of a 3.69 ratio LSD diff including spacer ring to utilise brand new 190e 16v LSD centre but do not have drawings of housings with dimensions so reading info here I assumed width to be same until I measured them today....

OK so whats the missing piece? different axles? im confused.

What I found in the w116 and w126, is the 1.3 liter case typically uses axles that are 2.5 cm shorter than the 1.1 liter case. The 107 most likely be the same. The only way to find out if the 1.3 liter axles would work, is to try them. They will slide into the diff with no problems, just need to space them correctly for locking in the "c" clips.

Thankyou for replies.
I am trying to put together the parts while the car which is to recieve the diff/axles is still on the road.
To achieve this I will try to research this axle size and type question.
I have compared the w123 and w107 parts numbers for wheel bearings and they are different,hubs are same.[have a 123 parts car]
besides length differences I will also need to know if the splines etc do interchange.
If I had 3 wishes just now one might be used to compile a list of mercedes axles,lengths and compatibility regarding which axle ends would fit what chassis.
I know of mercedes race cars using weird diffs [r200 nissan] utilising cut and shut axles but hoping to avoid that extreme.
Anybody seen an axle compilation or anything useful.probably need to ask in the right place doh.

83300d
GTA2056V

78
01-10-2013, 05:21 PM #16
Something I have always wondered about was taking the subframe from a newer car and bolting it into my 83.
83300d
01-10-2013, 05:21 PM #16

Something I have always wondered about was taking the subframe from a newer car and bolting it into my 83.

Bangaway
606 Turbo > Porsche Turbo

129
01-17-2013, 12:48 PM #17
So what is the best way to get a 3.07 or 3.27 LSD in a 124 chassis? That is--where would I get one of these other than a 1987 190E 16V? I guess the simplest option is to convert a 185mm diff to an LSD. Are there any good documentations for how to do this including parts lists?
This post was last modified: 01-17-2013, 04:13 PM by Bangaway.
Bangaway
01-17-2013, 12:48 PM #17

So what is the best way to get a 3.07 or 3.27 LSD in a 124 chassis? That is--where would I get one of these other than a 1987 190E 16V? I guess the simplest option is to convert a 185mm diff to an LSD. Are there any good documentations for how to do this including parts lists?

aaa
GT2256V

913
01-19-2013, 10:16 AM #18
Here's a thread on various ways of transplanting lsd. It's pretty long but there's lots of helpful comments by gsxr (AMGDave). The parts go for somewhere around $900-1100 new.

http://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w124/2...w124s.html
aaa
01-19-2013, 10:16 AM #18

Here's a thread on various ways of transplanting lsd. It's pretty long but there's lots of helpful comments by gsxr (AMGDave). The parts go for somewhere around $900-1100 new.

http://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w124/2...w124s.html

swampmonkey
hx40 super

280
10-18-2013, 03:13 PM #19
like 1981.10 they changed the differentials according to my documents.

before 1981-10 on w126 the 380SE versions had a 3.27differential, and the 500Se versions had a 2.82 differential, after 1981-10, they both uses a 2.47 diff.

might not be the same in the US.

---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
10-18-2013, 03:13 PM #19

like 1981.10 they changed the differentials according to my documents.

before 1981-10 on w126 the 380SE versions had a 3.27differential, and the 500Se versions had a 2.82 differential, after 1981-10, they both uses a 2.47 diff.

might not be the same in the US.


---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
10-18-2013, 05:00 PM #20
Mercedes put AC Leather and power windows in every car sold in the US unless specialty ordered with out them. but LSD's are super rare they had to be ordered with it every once in awhile you see them in the very top of the range cars 560sec s600 and so on.

Hell even most of the base w201 190e in this country have leather interior ac and power windows the only car i have ever seen with roll up windows was 240dBig Grin
This post was last modified: 10-18-2013, 05:02 PM by willbhere4u.

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
10-18-2013, 05:00 PM #20

Mercedes put AC Leather and power windows in every car sold in the US unless specialty ordered with out them. but LSD's are super rare they had to be ordered with it every once in awhile you see them in the very top of the range cars 560sec s600 and so on.

Hell even most of the base w201 190e in this country have leather interior ac and power windows the only car i have ever seen with roll up windows was 240dBig Grin


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

john
GTA2056V

90
12-08-2013, 03:37 PM #21
Anyone got the partnumbers on the early lsd diffs that will fit w123?

edit: Is this list compatible for eurospecs to? Have a guy saying he has a w126 91 diff with 2:65 ratio??
This post was last modified: 12-08-2013, 03:45 PM by john.

Holset power!
john
12-08-2013, 03:37 PM #21

Anyone got the partnumbers on the early lsd diffs that will fit w123?

edit: Is this list compatible for eurospecs to? Have a guy saying he has a w126 91 diff with 2:65 ratio??


Holset power!

swampmonkey
hx40 super

280
12-08-2013, 04:35 PM #22
(12-08-2013, 03:37 PM)john Anyone got the partnumbers on the early lsd diffs that will fit w123?

edit: Is this list compatible for eurospecs to? Have a guy saying he has a w126 91 diff with 2:65 ratio??

a 1991 w126 diff wont be a bolt-on on a w123 or pre 1986 w126.
This post was last modified: 12-08-2013, 04:35 PM by swampmonkey.

---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
12-08-2013, 04:35 PM #22

(12-08-2013, 03:37 PM)john Anyone got the partnumbers on the early lsd diffs that will fit w123?

edit: Is this list compatible for eurospecs to? Have a guy saying he has a w126 91 diff with 2:65 ratio??

a 1991 w126 diff wont be a bolt-on on a w123 or pre 1986 w126.


---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

john
GTA2056V

90
12-09-2013, 04:22 AM #23
(12-08-2013, 04:35 PM)swampmonkey
(12-08-2013, 03:37 PM)john Anyone got the partnumbers on the early lsd diffs that will fit w123?

edit: Is this list compatible for eurospecs to? Have a guy saying he has a w126 91 diff with 2:65 ratio??

a 1991 w126 diff wont be a bolt-on on a w123 or pre 1986 w126.

I know! Just couldnt find in the diffrential list above.

Holset power!
john
12-09-2013, 04:22 AM #23

(12-08-2013, 04:35 PM)swampmonkey
(12-08-2013, 03:37 PM)john Anyone got the partnumbers on the early lsd diffs that will fit w123?

edit: Is this list compatible for eurospecs to? Have a guy saying he has a w126 91 diff with 2:65 ratio??

a 1991 w126 diff wont be a bolt-on on a w123 or pre 1986 w126.

I know! Just couldnt find in the diffrential list above.


Holset power!

hannes_s
K26-2

25
02-10-2014, 06:17 AM #24
Can anyone list W124 differential bearing numbers? Do not want to tear mine diff apart before actually buying new bearings.
hannes_s
02-10-2014, 06:17 AM #24

Can anyone list W124 differential bearing numbers? Do not want to tear mine diff apart before actually buying new bearings.

swampmonkey
hx40 super

280
02-10-2014, 07:26 AM #25
(02-10-2014, 06:17 AM)hannes_s Can anyone list W124 differential bearing numbers? Do not want to tear mine diff apart before actually buying new bearings.

get me a number of the diff and i can see if i can find the propper bearings, what car/engine is it from?

---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
02-10-2014, 07:26 AM #25

(02-10-2014, 06:17 AM)hannes_s Can anyone list W124 differential bearing numbers? Do not want to tear mine diff apart before actually buying new bearings.

get me a number of the diff and i can see if i can find the propper bearings, what car/engine is it from?


---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

hannes_s
K26-2

25
02-23-2014, 12:31 PM #26
Did you mean this number 160 6150 2.87 or some other from the diff housing

(02-10-2014, 07:26 AM)swampmonkey
(02-10-2014, 06:17 AM)hannes_s Can anyone list W124 differential bearing numbers? Do not want to tear mine diff apart before actually buying new bearings.

get me a number of the diff and i can see if i can find the propper bearings, what car/engine is it from?
hannes_s
02-23-2014, 12:31 PM #26

Did you mean this number 160 6150 2.87 or some other from the diff housing

(02-10-2014, 07:26 AM)swampmonkey
(02-10-2014, 06:17 AM)hannes_s Can anyone list W124 differential bearing numbers? Do not want to tear mine diff apart before actually buying new bearings.

get me a number of the diff and i can see if i can find the propper bearings, what car/engine is it from?

swampmonkey
hx40 super

280
02-23-2014, 02:02 PM #27
naa, not exactly, althou i could find from that to a few different...

more like
124-351-07-05
124-351-06-05

but the 06-05 should have bearings: A0009808402 A0009801102 at the front and
A0019802102 at the sides (aswell as A0229979847 as seal rings..)

07-05 differential had some "roller bearing not available" and showed the setup from the 06-05 differential.

DO NOT QUOTE ME ON THESE NUMBERS/BEARINGS AS 100% that will fit your car....
just checking WIS for what i could find, i am shure you could get these confirmed at your mb-dealer when you have more information about your car/differential or from another forum member...

cheers...



(02-23-2014, 12:31 PM)hannes_s Did you mean this number 160 6150 2.87 or some other from the diff housing

(02-10-2014, 07:26 AM)swampmonkey
(02-10-2014, 06:17 AM)hannes_s Can anyone list W124 differential bearing numbers? Do not want to tear mine diff apart before actually buying new bearings.

get me a number of the diff and i can see if i can find the propper bearings, what car/engine is it from?
This post was last modified: 02-24-2014, 03:11 PM by swampmonkey.

---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
02-23-2014, 02:02 PM #27

naa, not exactly, althou i could find from that to a few different...

more like
124-351-07-05
124-351-06-05

but the 06-05 should have bearings: A0009808402 A0009801102 at the front and
A0019802102 at the sides (aswell as A0229979847 as seal rings..)

07-05 differential had some "roller bearing not available" and showed the setup from the 06-05 differential.

DO NOT QUOTE ME ON THESE NUMBERS/BEARINGS AS 100% that will fit your car....
just checking WIS for what i could find, i am shure you could get these confirmed at your mb-dealer when you have more information about your car/differential or from another forum member...

cheers...



(02-23-2014, 12:31 PM)hannes_s Did you mean this number 160 6150 2.87 or some other from the diff housing

(02-10-2014, 07:26 AM)swampmonkey
(02-10-2014, 06:17 AM)hannes_s Can anyone list W124 differential bearing numbers? Do not want to tear mine diff apart before actually buying new bearings.

get me a number of the diff and i can see if i can find the propper bearings, what car/engine is it from?


---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

hannes_s
K26-2

25
02-24-2014, 11:51 AM #28
124 351 06 05
124 351 05 05

160 6150 2.87

I am actually looking for bearing number. Mercedes does not make any bearings itself, buys them from FAG, SKF or other bearing maker. But it helps if you can find original part numbers
hannes_s
02-24-2014, 11:51 AM #28

124 351 06 05
124 351 05 05

160 6150 2.87

I am actually looking for bearing number. Mercedes does not make any bearings itself, buys them from FAG, SKF or other bearing maker. But it helps if you can find original part numbers

john
GTA2056V

90
03-17-2014, 05:35 PM #29
question!
is 2.24 exclusive to 500sec? is it always a lsd??

Holset power!
john
03-17-2014, 05:35 PM #29

question!
is 2.24 exclusive to 500sec? is it always a lsd??


Holset power!

swampmonkey
hx40 super

280
03-18-2014, 07:35 AM #30
(03-17-2014, 05:35 PM)john question!
is 2.24 exclusive to 500sec? is it always a lsd??

Ive seen different information about that, but i think the later 500SE is supposed to have a 2.24 aswell as the 500SEC. up untill 1981-10 the 500SE had a 2.82, and then a 2.24.

Compared to for example the 380SE that went from 3.27 to 2.47 at the same time....

what i have heard the LSD is standard on the 500SEC, but yeah, the LSD part differs on where in the world you live, (you being a swede as me.) i have no information about the 500SE, but

the 500SEC could also be ordered with a 2.47 from what ive heard.

---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
03-18-2014, 07:35 AM #30

(03-17-2014, 05:35 PM)john question!
is 2.24 exclusive to 500sec? is it always a lsd??

Ive seen different information about that, but i think the later 500SE is supposed to have a 2.24 aswell as the 500SEC. up untill 1981-10 the 500SE had a 2.82, and then a 2.24.

Compared to for example the 380SE that went from 3.27 to 2.47 at the same time....

what i have heard the LSD is standard on the 500SEC, but yeah, the LSD part differs on where in the world you live, (you being a swede as me.) i have no information about the 500SE, but

the 500SEC could also be ordered with a 2.47 from what ive heard.


---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

john
GTA2056V

90
03-18-2014, 10:05 AM #31
(03-18-2014, 07:35 AM)swampmonkey
(03-17-2014, 05:35 PM)john question!
is 2.24 exclusive to 500sec? is it always a lsd??

Ive seen different information about that, but i think the later 500SE is supposed to have a 2.24 aswell as the 500SEC. up untill 1981-10 the 500SE had a 2.82, and then a 2.24.

Compared to for example the 380SE that went from 3.27 to 2.47 at the same time....

what i have heard the LSD is standard on the 500SEC, but yeah, the LSD part differs on where in the world you live, (you being a swede as me.) i have no information about the 500SE, but

the 500SEC could also be ordered with a 2.47 from what ive heard.

have found a a 500 sec diff 2.24 in germany forsale. but i cant get the stupid german (they dont speak english Dodgy ) to send me pics of the rear so i dont know if the lsd sign is there. but it is a 2.24 from a 500 sec before 86 so it should fit a w123. it must be a lsd right?
Is the output crazy low for a daily driver superturbodiesel?? cant find much use for my 6th gear with that diff. but i might buy it beacause of the price.

Holset power!
john
03-18-2014, 10:05 AM #31

(03-18-2014, 07:35 AM)swampmonkey
(03-17-2014, 05:35 PM)john question!
is 2.24 exclusive to 500sec? is it always a lsd??

Ive seen different information about that, but i think the later 500SE is supposed to have a 2.24 aswell as the 500SEC. up untill 1981-10 the 500SE had a 2.82, and then a 2.24.

Compared to for example the 380SE that went from 3.27 to 2.47 at the same time....

what i have heard the LSD is standard on the 500SEC, but yeah, the LSD part differs on where in the world you live, (you being a swede as me.) i have no information about the 500SE, but

the 500SEC could also be ordered with a 2.47 from what ive heard.

have found a a 500 sec diff 2.24 in germany forsale. but i cant get the stupid german (they dont speak english Dodgy ) to send me pics of the rear so i dont know if the lsd sign is there. but it is a 2.24 from a 500 sec before 86 so it should fit a w123. it must be a lsd right?
Is the output crazy low for a daily driver superturbodiesel?? cant find much use for my 6th gear with that diff. but i might buy it beacause of the price.


Holset power!

swampmonkey
hx40 super

280
04-10-2014, 07:29 AM #32
trying to get a hold of a 3.07LSD, there is a guy here in sweden currently selling one of those aswell as a 3.46LSD..

both imported from Canada, so it might be worth it to take a look just a tad north for those precious differentials Smile


(03-18-2014, 10:05 AM)john
(03-18-2014, 07:35 AM)swampmonkey
(03-17-2014, 05:35 PM)john question!
is 2.24 exclusive to 500sec? is it always a lsd??

Ive seen different information about that, but i think the later 500SE is supposed to have a 2.24 aswell as the 500SEC. up untill 1981-10 the 500SE had a 2.82, and then a 2.24.

Compared to for example the 380SE that went from 3.27 to 2.47 at the same time....

what i have heard the LSD is standard on the 500SEC, but yeah, the LSD part differs on where in the world you live, (you being a swede as me.) i have no information about the 500SE, but

the 500SEC could also be ordered with a 2.47 from what ive heard.

have found a a 500 sec diff 2.24 in germany forsale. but i cant get the stupid german (they dont speak english Dodgy ) to send me pics of the rear so i dont know if the lsd sign is there. but it is a 2.24 from a 500 sec before 86 so it should fit a w123. it must be a lsd right?
Is the output crazy low for a daily driver superturbodiesel?? cant find much use for my 6th gear with that diff. but i might buy it beacause of the price.

sorry for late answer, if it is from a w126SEC it should be a LSD...

a 2.24 is absolutely a tad low, if you had a fivespeed it would have been another story, drove the w123 om606 with the 2.47LSD, and althou the fifth gear was sweet when driving on the highway i realy never left third gear when i drove at a track, 355km/h in topspeed at 6000rpm is a tad high to use, for a commuter car it works excellent, but no, not for more aggressive driving, + the pull on each gear is quite long... (i would guess that stresses the engine more, longer time with blacksmoke etc...)
This post was last modified: 04-10-2014, 07:38 AM by swampmonkey.

---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
04-10-2014, 07:29 AM #32

trying to get a hold of a 3.07LSD, there is a guy here in sweden currently selling one of those aswell as a 3.46LSD..

both imported from Canada, so it might be worth it to take a look just a tad north for those precious differentials Smile


(03-18-2014, 10:05 AM)john
(03-18-2014, 07:35 AM)swampmonkey
(03-17-2014, 05:35 PM)john question!
is 2.24 exclusive to 500sec? is it always a lsd??

Ive seen different information about that, but i think the later 500SE is supposed to have a 2.24 aswell as the 500SEC. up untill 1981-10 the 500SE had a 2.82, and then a 2.24.

Compared to for example the 380SE that went from 3.27 to 2.47 at the same time....

what i have heard the LSD is standard on the 500SEC, but yeah, the LSD part differs on where in the world you live, (you being a swede as me.) i have no information about the 500SE, but

the 500SEC could also be ordered with a 2.47 from what ive heard.

have found a a 500 sec diff 2.24 in germany forsale. but i cant get the stupid german (they dont speak english Dodgy ) to send me pics of the rear so i dont know if the lsd sign is there. but it is a 2.24 from a 500 sec before 86 so it should fit a w123. it must be a lsd right?
Is the output crazy low for a daily driver superturbodiesel?? cant find much use for my 6th gear with that diff. but i might buy it beacause of the price.

sorry for late answer, if it is from a w126SEC it should be a LSD...

a 2.24 is absolutely a tad low, if you had a fivespeed it would have been another story, drove the w123 om606 with the 2.47LSD, and althou the fifth gear was sweet when driving on the highway i realy never left third gear when i drove at a track, 355km/h in topspeed at 6000rpm is a tad high to use, for a commuter car it works excellent, but no, not for more aggressive driving, + the pull on each gear is quite long... (i would guess that stresses the engine more, longer time with blacksmoke etc...)


---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

Jooseppi Luna
Certified Nut

114
06-26-2014, 02:02 PM #33
(10-18-2013, 05:00 PM)willbhere4u Mercedes put AC Leather and power windows in every car sold in the US unless specialty ordered with out them. but LSD's are super rare they had to be ordered with it every once in awhile you see them in the very top of the range cars 560sec s600 and so on.

Hell even most of the base w201 190e in this country have leather interior ac and power windows the only car i have ever seen with roll up windows was 240dBig Grin
Just a nitpick... I see way more 'Tex interiors than leather interiors.

-Jooseppi

1982 300SD -- 211k, Texas car, tranny issues

1979 240D 4-speed 234k -- turbo and tuned IP, third world taxi hot rod Big Grin .  Given to me by JB3, who got it from purplecomputer.

Some blasphemous vehicles in the fleet as well -- 2004 Corolla 5-speed and 1994 Buick Century

2 Samuel 12:13: "David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” And Nathan said to David, “The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die."
Jooseppi Luna
06-26-2014, 02:02 PM #33

(10-18-2013, 05:00 PM)willbhere4u Mercedes put AC Leather and power windows in every car sold in the US unless specialty ordered with out them. but LSD's are super rare they had to be ordered with it every once in awhile you see them in the very top of the range cars 560sec s600 and so on.

Hell even most of the base w201 190e in this country have leather interior ac and power windows the only car i have ever seen with roll up windows was 240dBig Grin
Just a nitpick... I see way more 'Tex interiors than leather interiors.


-Jooseppi

1982 300SD -- 211k, Texas car, tranny issues

1979 240D 4-speed 234k -- turbo and tuned IP, third world taxi hot rod Big Grin .  Given to me by JB3, who got it from purplecomputer.

Some blasphemous vehicles in the fleet as well -- 2004 Corolla 5-speed and 1994 Buick Century

2 Samuel 12:13: "David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” And Nathan said to David, “The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die."

swampmonkey
hx40 super

280
09-27-2014, 06:02 PM #34
(03-18-2014, 10:05 AM)john
(03-18-2014, 07:35 AM)swampmonkey
(03-17-2014, 05:35 PM)john question!
is 2.24 exclusive to 500sec? is it always a lsd??

Ive seen different information about that, but i think the later 500SE is supposed to have a 2.24 aswell as the 500SEC. up untill 1981-10 the 500SE had a 2.82, and then a 2.24.

Compared to for example the 380SE that went from 3.27 to 2.47 at the same time....

what i have heard the LSD is standard on the 500SEC, but yeah, the LSD part differs on where in the world you live, (you being a swede as me.) i have no information about the 500SE, but

the 500SEC could also be ordered with a 2.47 from what ive heard.

have found a a 500 sec diff 2.24 in germany forsale. but i cant get the stupid german (they dont speak english Dodgy ) to send me pics of the rear so i dont know if the lsd sign is there. but it is a 2.24 from a 500 sec before 86 so it should fit a w123. it must be a lsd right?
Is the output crazy low for a daily driver superturbodiesel?? cant find much use for my 6th gear with that diff. but i might buy it beacause of the price.


okay, i wrote a couple of months back that the 2.24 from a 500SEC should be a LSD, (i had never stumbled upon anyone with a "euro" SEC that said otherwise, even some americans seems to get LSD in it)

anyhow, got myself a 2.24aswell from a scrapyard here in sweden, a 1984 500SEC if i remember correctly, no leather-seats, and some extras, anti-squat/dive linkage in the back. but no, it had NO LSD on the 2.24


i would like to find some logic in the stamped numbers on a LSD vs non LSD differentials, incase the tag on the right side telling us "Actung Special Öl, Sperrdifferential" is removed. got throu three of my diffs today and scribled some numbers down (photos acctualy)
http://mbturbo.com/lsd-differentials/

two 2.47 LSD and one 2.24 no LSD

the numbers so far being:
419498 2.47 LSD differential from w126 380SE
559918 2.47 LSD differential from a w126 380SE
426927 2.24 differential no LSD in this one, pulled from a euro 1984 500SEC

anyone that could ship in with numbers for LSD vs normal differentials? one could think MB likes logic Wink
This post was last modified: 09-27-2014, 06:03 PM by swampmonkey.

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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
09-27-2014, 06:02 PM #34

(03-18-2014, 10:05 AM)john
(03-18-2014, 07:35 AM)swampmonkey
(03-17-2014, 05:35 PM)john question!
is 2.24 exclusive to 500sec? is it always a lsd??

Ive seen different information about that, but i think the later 500SE is supposed to have a 2.24 aswell as the 500SEC. up untill 1981-10 the 500SE had a 2.82, and then a 2.24.

Compared to for example the 380SE that went from 3.27 to 2.47 at the same time....

what i have heard the LSD is standard on the 500SEC, but yeah, the LSD part differs on where in the world you live, (you being a swede as me.) i have no information about the 500SE, but

the 500SEC could also be ordered with a 2.47 from what ive heard.

have found a a 500 sec diff 2.24 in germany forsale. but i cant get the stupid german (they dont speak english Dodgy ) to send me pics of the rear so i dont know if the lsd sign is there. but it is a 2.24 from a 500 sec before 86 so it should fit a w123. it must be a lsd right?
Is the output crazy low for a daily driver superturbodiesel?? cant find much use for my 6th gear with that diff. but i might buy it beacause of the price.


okay, i wrote a couple of months back that the 2.24 from a 500SEC should be a LSD, (i had never stumbled upon anyone with a "euro" SEC that said otherwise, even some americans seems to get LSD in it)

anyhow, got myself a 2.24aswell from a scrapyard here in sweden, a 1984 500SEC if i remember correctly, no leather-seats, and some extras, anti-squat/dive linkage in the back. but no, it had NO LSD on the 2.24


i would like to find some logic in the stamped numbers on a LSD vs non LSD differentials, incase the tag on the right side telling us "Actung Special Öl, Sperrdifferential" is removed. got throu three of my diffs today and scribled some numbers down (photos acctualy)
http://mbturbo.com/lsd-differentials/

two 2.47 LSD and one 2.24 no LSD

the numbers so far being:
419498 2.47 LSD differential from w126 380SE
559918 2.47 LSD differential from a w126 380SE
426927 2.24 differential no LSD in this one, pulled from a euro 1984 500SEC

anyone that could ship in with numbers for LSD vs normal differentials? one could think MB likes logic Wink


---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

Druk
Holset

297
09-28-2014, 09:51 AM #35
453358 2.47 non LSD from a W126 380SEL.

[Image: 11.jpg]


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This post was last modified: 09-28-2014, 09:55 AM by Druk.
Druk
09-28-2014, 09:51 AM #35

453358 2.47 non LSD from a W126 380SEL.

[Image: 11.jpg]


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swampmonkey
hx40 super

280
09-28-2014, 10:46 AM #36
(09-28-2014, 09:51 AM)Druk 453358 2.47 non LSD from a W126 380SEL.

[Image: 11.jpg]


.
that rules out the last digit being an 8 a LSD number...

the only common digit left is the third being a 9....

would be interesting to know what those 6 digits mean, if it is a serialnumber or something else Tongue
like, there should be a way to tell if it is a LSD by the outside, and not having to open it Wink

EDIT:
got out and obtained a few more in the storage, 2.82, 3.46 gen2 2.47
still no logic in it.
This post was last modified: 09-29-2014, 07:03 AM by swampmonkey.

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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
09-28-2014, 10:46 AM #36

(09-28-2014, 09:51 AM)Druk 453358 2.47 non LSD from a W126 380SEL.

[Image: 11.jpg]


.
that rules out the last digit being an 8 a LSD number...

the only common digit left is the third being a 9....

would be interesting to know what those 6 digits mean, if it is a serialnumber or something else Tongue
like, there should be a way to tell if it is a LSD by the outside, and not having to open it Wink

EDIT:
got out and obtained a few more in the storage, 2.82, 3.46 gen2 2.47
still no logic in it.


---------------------------------
daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com

raidaru
TA 0301

65
01-26-2015, 05:00 PM #37
does anyone know what diff comes with w210 om606.962 engine? 210mm or 185mm?

lost in the diesel universe.............
raidaru
01-26-2015, 05:00 PM #37

does anyone know what diff comes with w210 om606.962 engine? 210mm or 185mm?


lost in the diesel universe.............

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
01-27-2015, 12:13 PM #38
I haven't looked, but I'm gonna say there's no way MB would put a 185mm diff in such a porky car.
raysorenson
01-27-2015, 12:13 PM #38

I haven't looked, but I'm gonna say there's no way MB would put a 185mm diff in such a porky car.

Duncansport
Holset

526
01-29-2015, 10:50 AM #39
(01-26-2015, 05:00 PM)raidaru does anyone know what diff comes with w210 om606.962 engine? 210mm or 185mm?

210MM diff 3.07
Duncansport
01-29-2015, 10:50 AM #39

(01-26-2015, 05:00 PM)raidaru does anyone know what diff comes with w210 om606.962 engine? 210mm or 185mm?

210MM diff 3.07

erx
w202 om606

323
01-29-2015, 11:32 AM #40
(01-29-2015, 10:50 AM)Duncansport
(01-26-2015, 05:00 PM)raidaru does anyone know what diff comes with w210 om606.962 engine? 210mm or 185mm?

210MM diff 3.07
My 98 w210 e300td was 2,87
erx
01-29-2015, 11:32 AM #40

(01-29-2015, 10:50 AM)Duncansport
(01-26-2015, 05:00 PM)raidaru does anyone know what diff comes with w210 om606.962 engine? 210mm or 185mm?

210MM diff 3.07
My 98 w210 e300td was 2,87

Duncansport
Holset

526
02-02-2015, 08:55 AM #41
(01-29-2015, 11:32 AM)erx
(01-29-2015, 10:50 AM)Duncansport
(01-26-2015, 05:00 PM)raidaru does anyone know what diff comes with w210 om606.962 engine? 210mm or 185mm?

210MM diff 3.07
My 98 w210 e300td was 2,87

Intresting, seems the US version is a bit higher
Duncansport
02-02-2015, 08:55 AM #41

(01-29-2015, 11:32 AM)erx
(01-29-2015, 10:50 AM)Duncansport
(01-26-2015, 05:00 PM)raidaru does anyone know what diff comes with w210 om606.962 engine? 210mm or 185mm?

210MM diff 3.07
My 98 w210 e300td was 2,87

Intresting, seems the US version is a bit higher

 
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