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Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

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08-21-2013, 08:47 AM #1
   

Anybody ever get a ratcheting tensioner on a turbo '82? Because I got one last night and it slowed us down big time. All set now though, got to pull the thermostat and all that crap.

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
08-21-2013, 08:47 AM #1

   

Anybody ever get a ratcheting tensioner on a turbo '82? Because I got one last night and it slowed us down big time. All set now though, got to pull the thermostat and all that crap.


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

Duncansport
Holset

526
08-21-2013, 10:08 AM #2
(08-21-2013, 08:47 AM)Simpler=Better Anybody ever get a ratcheting tensioner on a turbo '82? Because I got one last night and it slowed us down big time. All set now though, got to pull the thermostat and all that crap.

Every replacement one ive done is of the ratcheting type.. Not sure when the change was made? Bilstein is NLA from 1/2012
Duncansport
08-21-2013, 10:08 AM #2

(08-21-2013, 08:47 AM)Simpler=Better Anybody ever get a ratcheting tensioner on a turbo '82? Because I got one last night and it slowed us down big time. All set now though, got to pull the thermostat and all that crap.

Every replacement one ive done is of the ratcheting type.. Not sure when the change was made? Bilstein is NLA from 1/2012

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
08-22-2013, 08:49 AM #3
Everything is bolted back on(offset key, valves adjusted, chain tensioner, water pump stubby hose, new turbo oil lines, GT2056V, w115 intake, new glow plugs), all ready for a test fire aaaand dead battery. Also, I'm pretty sure I killed the turbo last night-but the test fire will tell the truth

And because y'all like pictures here's our fancy workspace:
   
This post was last modified: 08-22-2013, 08:51 AM by Simpler=Better.

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
08-22-2013, 08:49 AM #3

Everything is bolted back on(offset key, valves adjusted, chain tensioner, water pump stubby hose, new turbo oil lines, GT2056V, w115 intake, new glow plugs), all ready for a test fire aaaand dead battery. Also, I'm pretty sure I killed the turbo last night-but the test fire will tell the truth

And because y'all like pictures here's our fancy workspace:
   


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
08-22-2013, 09:00 AM #4
like your workspace shot, very dramatic lighting.
looks like you guys are assembling a bomb in secrecy


Can you take a location pic of the ratcheting tensioner and or describe where this is located on the turbo and what it does? Because that looks like a small driveshaft flange to me with one ear broken off. Big Grin
This post was last modified: 08-22-2013, 09:01 AM by JB3.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
08-22-2013, 09:00 AM #4

like your workspace shot, very dramatic lighting.
looks like you guys are assembling a bomb in secrecy


Can you take a location pic of the ratcheting tensioner and or describe where this is located on the turbo and what it does? Because that looks like a small driveshaft flange to me with one ear broken off. Big Grin


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
08-22-2013, 09:38 AM #5
It's the timing chain tensioner. When we put in the offset key the bastard slipped tighter and cranked down on the timing chain, which forced us to pull the thermostat housing and tensioner assembly in order to get the cam sprocket back on. Which meant an additional couple of unplanned hours mucking around, draining coolant, going to the store for a new radiator hose (while we're in there better replace the 30yr one), etc.

#185 in the pic below:
[Image: 111739d1368988223-cant-source-om617-timi...sioner.jpg]

http://mb.bolinko.org/15/warsztat-mainme...ioner.html

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
08-22-2013, 09:38 AM #5

It's the timing chain tensioner. When we put in the offset key the bastard slipped tighter and cranked down on the timing chain, which forced us to pull the thermostat housing and tensioner assembly in order to get the cam sprocket back on. Which meant an additional couple of unplanned hours mucking around, draining coolant, going to the store for a new radiator hose (while we're in there better replace the 30yr one), etc.

#185 in the pic below:
[Image: 111739d1368988223-cant-source-om617-timi...sioner.jpg]

http://mb.bolinko.org/15/warsztat-mainme...ioner.html


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
08-22-2013, 10:02 AM #6
how did you kill a turbo?

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
08-22-2013, 10:02 AM #6

how did you kill a turbo?


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
08-22-2013, 10:10 AM #7
(08-22-2013, 09:38 AM)Simpler=Better It's the timing chain tensioner. When we put in the offset key the bastard slipped tighter and cranked down on the timing chain, which forced us to pull the thermostat housing and tensioner assembly in order to get the cam sprocket back on. Which meant an additional couple of unplanned hours mucking around, draining coolant, going to the store for a new radiator hose (while we're in there better replace the 30yr one), etc.

lol, thanks for the clarification. For some reason I thought that was related to a turbocharger I have never seen! Blush

more coffee needs to be drunk in the morning I think

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
08-22-2013, 10:10 AM #7

(08-22-2013, 09:38 AM)Simpler=Better It's the timing chain tensioner. When we put in the offset key the bastard slipped tighter and cranked down on the timing chain, which forced us to pull the thermostat housing and tensioner assembly in order to get the cam sprocket back on. Which meant an additional couple of unplanned hours mucking around, draining coolant, going to the store for a new radiator hose (while we're in there better replace the 30yr one), etc.

lol, thanks for the clarification. For some reason I thought that was related to a turbocharger I have never seen! Blush

more coffee needs to be drunk in the morning I think


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
08-22-2013, 11:08 AM #8
(08-22-2013, 10:02 AM)willbhere4u how did you kill a turbo?

I would like to know this as well.

Needed to clock the compressor housing. Mind you, 12 months ago I had this fucker apart, cleaned, and relubed. It's been in a crate since then.

Loosened all but 1 bolt, rounded that tapered piece of shit 8mm right off.

So I sprayed her down with WD40 and thought that I could tap(let's be honest here beat the shit out of it with a rubber mallet) the outlet pipe to rotate the housing, spinning the bolt loose in the process, solving all my problems, and magically creating a unicorn goat that not only mows the lawn but shits silicone connector boots, specifically the ones I'm short.

So it moved all right, and the back plate moves with it. Bolt did loosen up, but now my backing plate (behind the compressor wheel) rotates with it 10°-15° of freedom. Doesn't feel like it's moving in or out though.

I'm 96% confident that I fucked myself and she's going to explode when we test fire it (with the boost elbow disconnected).
This post was last modified: 08-22-2013, 11:10 AM by Simpler=Better.

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
08-22-2013, 11:08 AM #8

(08-22-2013, 10:02 AM)willbhere4u how did you kill a turbo?

I would like to know this as well.

Needed to clock the compressor housing. Mind you, 12 months ago I had this fucker apart, cleaned, and relubed. It's been in a crate since then.

Loosened all but 1 bolt, rounded that tapered piece of shit 8mm right off.

So I sprayed her down with WD40 and thought that I could tap(let's be honest here beat the shit out of it with a rubber mallet) the outlet pipe to rotate the housing, spinning the bolt loose in the process, solving all my problems, and magically creating a unicorn goat that not only mows the lawn but shits silicone connector boots, specifically the ones I'm short.

So it moved all right, and the back plate moves with it. Bolt did loosen up, but now my backing plate (behind the compressor wheel) rotates with it 10°-15° of freedom. Doesn't feel like it's moving in or out though.

I'm 96% confident that I fucked myself and she's going to explode when we test fire it (with the boost elbow disconnected).


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

1911diesel
GT2256V

108
08-22-2013, 12:58 PM #9
good luck! were watching! just like the government! LOL

82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey

[Image: PicMonkeyCollage_zpsc1d9cd5f.jpg]
1911diesel
08-22-2013, 12:58 PM #9

good luck! were watching! just like the government! LOL


82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey

[Image: PicMonkeyCollage_zpsc1d9cd5f.jpg]

willbhere4u
Six in a row make her go!

2,507
08-23-2013, 11:41 AM #10
(08-22-2013, 12:58 PM)1911diesel good luck! were watching! just like the government! LOL

yep! Big Grin

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
08-23-2013, 11:41 AM #10

(08-22-2013, 12:58 PM)1911diesel good luck! were watching! just like the government! LOL

yep! Big Grin


1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
08-23-2013, 11:52 AM #11
Fingers crossed on the turbo

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
08-23-2013, 11:52 AM #11

Fingers crossed on the turbo


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
08-23-2013, 12:25 PM #12
From what I've read online it ain't gonna happen.

So the options are to go back to the T3, or try and cobble together an unbalanced hybrid with some 2256 parts kicking around, or go NA with the 115 manifolds and a hood stack. I'm booked tonight, and the seat still isn't reinstalled in the wagon...so yeah, I'll be there in the Ranger :p

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
08-23-2013, 12:25 PM #12

From what I've read online it ain't gonna happen.

So the options are to go back to the T3, or try and cobble together an unbalanced hybrid with some 2256 parts kicking around, or go NA with the 115 manifolds and a hood stack. I'm booked tonight, and the seat still isn't reinstalled in the wagon...so yeah, I'll be there in the Ranger :p


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

1911diesel
GT2256V

108
08-23-2013, 01:52 PM #13
(08-23-2013, 12:25 PM)Simpler=Better From what I've read online it ain't gonna happen.

So the options are to go back to the T3, or try and cobble together an unbalanced hybrid with some 2256 parts kicking around, or go NA with the 115 manifolds and a hood stack. I'm booked tonight, and the seat still isn't reinstalled in the wagon...so yeah, I'll be there in the Ranger :p

HOOD STACK! HOOD STACK! HOOD STACK!
your a total pu$$y if you dont roll hood stacked!lol j/k i am looking for a spare hood so i can run a hood stack for a bit to see if i like it...lol

82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey

[Image: PicMonkeyCollage_zpsc1d9cd5f.jpg]
1911diesel
08-23-2013, 01:52 PM #13

(08-23-2013, 12:25 PM)Simpler=Better From what I've read online it ain't gonna happen.

So the options are to go back to the T3, or try and cobble together an unbalanced hybrid with some 2256 parts kicking around, or go NA with the 115 manifolds and a hood stack. I'm booked tonight, and the seat still isn't reinstalled in the wagon...so yeah, I'll be there in the Ranger :p

HOOD STACK! HOOD STACK! HOOD STACK!
your a total pu$$y if you dont roll hood stacked!lol j/k i am looking for a spare hood so i can run a hood stack for a bit to see if i like it...lol


82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey

[Image: PicMonkeyCollage_zpsc1d9cd5f.jpg]

majesty78
GT2559V

226
08-24-2013, 02:16 AM #14
If backplate is rotating 10-15°, it's fooocked up ;-)

Mercedes Benz W210 E-Class 320CDI, lowered 2.5", 18" AMG wheels, Decat, EGR removed, Tumble flaps removed, C30 AMG injectors, 400kpa MAP, Custom GT2566XTV turbo, SW tweaked to 300+hp/750NmBig Grin
majesty78
08-24-2013, 02:16 AM #14

If backplate is rotating 10-15°, it's fooocked up ;-)


Mercedes Benz W210 E-Class 320CDI, lowered 2.5", 18" AMG wheels, Decat, EGR removed, Tumble flaps removed, C30 AMG injectors, 400kpa MAP, Custom GT2566XTV turbo, SW tweaked to 300+hp/750NmBig Grin

 
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