STD Tuning Engine Is it possible to control edc pump without bosch head?

Is it possible to control edc pump without bosch head?

Is it possible to control edc pump without bosch head?

 
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awk
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08-19-2014, 02:45 PM #1
Hey!
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to control edc pump just by giving voltage straight to governor?
Thanks
awk
08-19-2014, 02:45 PM #1

Hey!
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to control edc pump just by giving voltage straight to governor?
Thanks

AlanMcR
mind - blown

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08-20-2014, 05:24 PM #2
(08-19-2014, 02:45 PM)awk Hey!
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to control edc pump just by giving voltage straight to governor?
Thanks
In a crude sense, yes you can. However, to get any meaningful control of fuel delivery you will need to monitor the position feedback line and adjust the drive current to get the fuel control rod to stop in the spot you want. It isn't as simple as apply X-volts and get Y-grams of fuel.
AlanMcR
08-20-2014, 05:24 PM #2

(08-19-2014, 02:45 PM)awk Hey!
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to control edc pump just by giving voltage straight to governor?
Thanks
In a crude sense, yes you can. However, to get any meaningful control of fuel delivery you will need to monitor the position feedback line and adjust the drive current to get the fuel control rod to stop in the spot you want. It isn't as simple as apply X-volts and get Y-grams of fuel.

awk
Naturally-aspirated

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08-21-2014, 02:25 AM #3
Thanks for your reply. I just thought building myself voltage regulator would be easier than swapping all the electronics.
awk
08-21-2014, 02:25 AM #3

Thanks for your reply. I just thought building myself voltage regulator would be easier than swapping all the electronics.

baldur
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08-21-2014, 05:36 PM #4
No you need a governor program that controls rack position in closed loop and senses engine speed at the very least to be able to get an idle. I am working on such a swap myself but it won't be running for another couple months at least. I have done most of the design work, but need to get some boards printed and write the control code.
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Baldur Gislason

baldur
08-21-2014, 05:36 PM #4

No you need a governor program that controls rack position in closed loop and senses engine speed at the very least to be able to get an idle. I am working on such a swap myself but it won't be running for another couple months at least. I have done most of the design work, but need to get some boards printed and write the control code.


Baldur Gislason

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08-22-2014, 01:19 PM #5
Is there a way to get it idling crudely? I have a 606 on the stand but no ecu and want to test fire it.

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
08-22-2014, 01:19 PM #5

Is there a way to get it idling crudely? I have a 606 on the stand but no ecu and want to test fire it.


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

AlanMcR
mind - blown

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08-22-2014, 07:33 PM #6
(08-22-2014, 01:19 PM)Simpler=Better Is there a way to get it idling crudely? I have a 606 on the stand but no ecu and want to test fire it.
Measure voltage across the driven coil on an idling OM606 and then apply the same voltage to your IP. You will probably need to up the voltage a bit during cranking to get enough fuel. Make sure you have a fast and foolproof way of disconnecting the power, it can over-rev very quickly.
AlanMcR
08-22-2014, 07:33 PM #6

(08-22-2014, 01:19 PM)Simpler=Better Is there a way to get it idling crudely? I have a 606 on the stand but no ecu and want to test fire it.
Measure voltage across the driven coil on an idling OM606 and then apply the same voltage to your IP. You will probably need to up the voltage a bit during cranking to get enough fuel. Make sure you have a fast and foolproof way of disconnecting the power, it can over-rev very quickly.

Petar
7.5mm M pump

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08-23-2014, 02:31 AM #7
You can remove the governor and move the rack manually. Just be carefull, you dont have a rev limiter
Petar
08-23-2014, 02:31 AM #7

You can remove the governor and move the rack manually. Just be carefull, you dont have a rev limiter

Simpler=Better
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08-23-2014, 06:53 PM #8
Thanks, I'll play with it

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
08-23-2014, 06:53 PM #8

Thanks, I'll play with it


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

 
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