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Converting to mecanical pump om606 w210

Converting to mecanical pump om606 w210

 
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Joystick
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03-06-2015, 04:47 AM #1
Does anyone of you have some pictures of what you did with gaswire and the tps when converting go 603 IP? And is there anything else i Need to think about when converting to this pump? Will it be able to drive with only this pump while bying rest of the parts i need? (Turbo, manifold, exhaust++). gonna go for 7.5mm elements by the way. Thank you.
This post was last modified: 03-13-2015, 03:28 PM by Joystick.
Joystick
03-06-2015, 04:47 AM #1

Does anyone of you have some pictures of what you did with gaswire and the tps when converting go 603 IP? And is there anything else i Need to think about when converting to this pump? Will it be able to drive with only this pump while bying rest of the parts i need? (Turbo, manifold, exhaust++). gonna go for 7.5mm elements by the way. Thank you.

TurboTim
Holset

457
03-06-2015, 12:11 PM #2
What car?

87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
TurboTim
03-06-2015, 12:11 PM #2

What car?


87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com

Joystick
TA 0301

51
03-06-2015, 12:33 PM #3
W210 1998 model.
Joystick
03-06-2015, 12:33 PM #3

W210 1998 model.

cho
GT2559V

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03-06-2015, 03:42 PM #4
(03-06-2015, 12:33 PM)Joystick W210 1998 model.

try this one:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/dies...ngine.html

cheers

500SEC euro gen II powered by OM617a stolen from 84 300SD .... with 280se transmission now Smile
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cho
03-06-2015, 03:42 PM #4

(03-06-2015, 12:33 PM)Joystick W210 1998 model.

try this one:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/dies...ngine.html

cheers


500SEC euro gen II powered by OM617a stolen from 84 300SD .... with 280se transmission now Smile
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Joystick
TA 0301

51
03-06-2015, 03:59 PM #5
Thanks Smile didnt quire answer all the questions but some of them! Do someone have more pictures of the tps sensor? And can someone explain little bit more for me how you stop the engine after IP swap? Will it Need modification when i install a pump from om606 non turbo? (Rs203)
Joystick
03-06-2015, 03:59 PM #5

Thanks Smile didnt quire answer all the questions but some of them! Do someone have more pictures of the tps sensor? And can someone explain little bit more for me how you stop the engine after IP swap? Will it Need modification when i install a pump from om606 non turbo? (Rs203)

cho
GT2559V

183
03-07-2015, 12:44 PM #6
shut down engine?

post No.6 in the link above....

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500SEC euro gen II powered by OM617a stolen from 84 300SD .... with 280se transmission now Smile
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cho
03-07-2015, 12:44 PM #6

shut down engine?

post No.6 in the link above....

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500SEC euro gen II powered by OM617a stolen from 84 300SD .... with 280se transmission now Smile
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Joystick
TA 0301

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03-07-2015, 01:30 PM #7
My english is not so good, but where can I get these vacum valves he is talking about?
Joystick
03-07-2015, 01:30 PM #7

My english is not so good, but where can I get these vacum valves he is talking about?

Joystick
TA 0301

51
03-08-2015, 04:38 AM #8
If a make a list of what i need it will be:
-convert to gaswire
-722.6 controller (is this neccesary?)
-vacum valve to shut off engine

Will everything else work like today? I know Cruisecontrol wont work, is there anything else?
Joystick
03-08-2015, 04:38 AM #8

If a make a list of what i need it will be:
-convert to gaswire
-722.6 controller (is this neccesary?)
-vacum valve to shut off engine

Will everything else work like today? I know Cruisecontrol wont work, is there anything else?

TurboTim
Holset

457
03-08-2015, 11:13 AM #9
Controller would be needed as you no longer have a working tps unless you could somehow hook the cable up to the existing pedal.

87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com
TurboTim
03-08-2015, 11:13 AM #9

Controller would be needed as you no longer have a working tps unless you could somehow hook the cable up to the existing pedal.


87 300SDL OM606 swapped HE351VE 722.633 swapped, Crower cams, KM valvesprings
76 300TD custom lots of stuff
06 Mercedes CL65 AMG 619 WHP, http://TurboTims.com

Joystick
TA 0301

51
03-08-2015, 11:30 AM #10
Okay so if the tps get the same movement as before, there is no need for the controller? All i Need then is this vacum valve for shutoff and gaswire?
Joystick
03-08-2015, 11:30 AM #10

Okay so if the tps get the same movement as before, there is no need for the controller? All i Need then is this vacum valve for shutoff and gaswire?

erx
w202 om606

323
03-08-2015, 12:10 PM #11
You need TPS either way, 722.6 controller also works only with TPS. If you use mechanical pump then nothing works, maybe only ABS. Turbo also will not work because boost is controlled electronically, you need to change the wastegate actuator if you want to use original turbo with mechanical pump. You need 722.6 controller and TPS attached to it and gaswire to pump. Shut down valve is easy to make, you only need electrical solenoid.
This post was last modified: 03-08-2015, 12:16 PM by erx.
erx
03-08-2015, 12:10 PM #11

You need TPS either way, 722.6 controller also works only with TPS. If you use mechanical pump then nothing works, maybe only ABS. Turbo also will not work because boost is controlled electronically, you need to change the wastegate actuator if you want to use original turbo with mechanical pump. You need 722.6 controller and TPS attached to it and gaswire to pump. Shut down valve is easy to make, you only need electrical solenoid.

Joystick
TA 0301

51
03-08-2015, 01:50 PM #12
(03-08-2015, 12:10 PM)erx You need TPS either way, 722.6 controller also works only with TPS. If you use mechanical pump then nothing works, maybe only ABS. Turbo also will not work because boost is controlled electronically, you need to change the wastegate actuator if you want to use original turbo with mechanical pump. You need 722.6 controller and TPS attached to it and gaswire to pump. Shut downvalve is easy to make, you only need electrical solenoid.
What do you mean by nothing? Will everything in my instrument cluster work like before? Speed, rpm++? 

So the list will be like:
-722.6 controller
-a working tps sensor
-vacum solenoid for shutoff
-mechanical turbo like hx40 (intern wastegate)
-gaswire from pedal to pump, and tps sensor 

And if i understood correct about the solenoid shutoff. The power the ip gets now to shut down engine, should now go to the solenoid vacum valve and shut down the rs203 pump?

Thanks for answering many dumb questions  Tongue
Joystick
03-08-2015, 01:50 PM #12

(03-08-2015, 12:10 PM)erx You need TPS either way, 722.6 controller also works only with TPS. If you use mechanical pump then nothing works, maybe only ABS. Turbo also will not work because boost is controlled electronically, you need to change the wastegate actuator if you want to use original turbo with mechanical pump. You need 722.6 controller and TPS attached to it and gaswire to pump. Shut downvalve is easy to make, you only need electrical solenoid.
What do you mean by nothing? Will everything in my instrument cluster work like before? Speed, rpm++? 

So the list will be like:
-722.6 controller
-a working tps sensor
-vacum solenoid for shutoff
-mechanical turbo like hx40 (intern wastegate)
-gaswire from pedal to pump, and tps sensor 

And if i understood correct about the solenoid shutoff. The power the ip gets now to shut down engine, should now go to the solenoid vacum valve and shut down the rs203 pump?

Thanks for answering many dumb questions  Tongue

Joystick
TA 0301

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03-13-2015, 03:33 PM #13
Anyone knows exactly what i will loose when converting to mechanical pump? I understood that i will loose cruisecontrol, and the shutoff needs to be controlled with standalone shutoff-vacum valve. The gearbox may not work properly, and the soloution will be the custom controller from Ole Fejer.

Does anyone knows if the start function remain as before?
What about everything in the instrument cluster?
The aircondition?
ESP and ABS?

Anything else i will loose? I will really appriciate every answers from people converting to 603/606NA pump before. For me i will go for the RS203 pump, but i want to know 100% what i will loose and not before converting.
Joystick
03-13-2015, 03:33 PM #13

Anyone knows exactly what i will loose when converting to mechanical pump? I understood that i will loose cruisecontrol, and the shutoff needs to be controlled with standalone shutoff-vacum valve. The gearbox may not work properly, and the soloution will be the custom controller from Ole Fejer.

Does anyone knows if the start function remain as before?
What about everything in the instrument cluster?
The aircondition?
ESP and ABS?

Anything else i will loose? I will really appriciate every answers from people converting to 603/606NA pump before. For me i will go for the RS203 pump, but i want to know 100% what i will loose and not before converting.

Joystick
TA 0301

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03-14-2015, 01:45 PM #14
Nobody knows? Anything i can plug away to simulate i got the rs203 pump fitted?
Joystick
03-14-2015, 01:45 PM #14

Nobody knows? Anything i can plug away to simulate i got the rs203 pump fitted?

 
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