STD Tuning Engine OM 603 606 Plastic Fuel Lines

OM 603 606 Plastic Fuel Lines

OM 603 606 Plastic Fuel Lines

 
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zeeman
Holset

444
09-28-2015, 11:31 AM #1
Does anyone know if the plastic clear fuel line used on the 603 and 606 engine for the fuel filter lines is available or is it replaced with the braided hose now. And what size is it? looks like 7mm.
zeeman
09-28-2015, 11:31 AM #1

Does anyone know if the plastic clear fuel line used on the 603 and 606 engine for the fuel filter lines is available or is it replaced with the braided hose now. And what size is it? looks like 7mm.

Druk
Holset

297
09-28-2015, 03:48 PM #2
All the lines are available but not as a cut length. The come as made-up parts with the push-on ends included.
Druk
09-28-2015, 03:48 PM #2

All the lines are available but not as a cut length. The come as made-up parts with the push-on ends included.

JVance
GTA2056V

92
04-11-2016, 08:36 PM #3
Bumping this back to the top. I've broken one of my plastic fuel lines. Since I have a new pump on the way, I'm thinking about replacing all of the lines, since I have no reference for how stiff/brittle these lines should be (note: everything rubber on my car is brittle, as if the car was baked at some point in time...).

Since the banjo ends are barbed, is there a fuel line/hose available that matches the stock line and will stay attached to the hose-ends? Or, is there a suitable replacement hose that may be clamped?

Zeeman, did you ever come up with a solution, or did you simply order replacement hoses from the dealership?
JVance
04-11-2016, 08:36 PM #3

Bumping this back to the top. I've broken one of my plastic fuel lines. Since I have a new pump on the way, I'm thinking about replacing all of the lines, since I have no reference for how stiff/brittle these lines should be (note: everything rubber on my car is brittle, as if the car was baked at some point in time...).

Since the banjo ends are barbed, is there a fuel line/hose available that matches the stock line and will stay attached to the hose-ends? Or, is there a suitable replacement hose that may be clamped?

Zeeman, did you ever come up with a solution, or did you simply order replacement hoses from the dealership?

zeeman
Holset

444
04-11-2016, 11:35 PM #4
(04-11-2016, 08:36 PM)JVance Bumping this back to the top. I've broken one of my plastic fuel lines. Since I have a new pump on the way, I'm thinking about replacing all of the lines, since I have no reference for how stiff/brittle these lines should be (note: everything rubber on my car is brittle, as if the car was baked at some point in time...).

Since the banjo ends are barbed, is there a fuel line/hose available that matches the stock line and will stay attached to the hose-ends? Or, is there a suitable replacement hose that may be clamped?

Zeeman, did you ever come up with a solution, or did you simply order replacement hoses from the dealership?

Funny you should bring that up again. I am at that point again trying to find replacement hose instead of buying all new complete hoses which are expensive.

I am told that they are Viton hoses and are metric. My local foreign parts store has referred me to a hose supply near me to see if they can come up with that size.

Up to this point I have been buying all the 603 fuel filter housings I can find with the hoses still attached that are in good shape. I change the housings on the OM 606 conversions I do when using the 603 IP pump.
There is also some hose on e-bay but no sure of the metric size needed.

I need to follow up on this for a solution.
zeeman
04-11-2016, 11:35 PM #4

(04-11-2016, 08:36 PM)JVance Bumping this back to the top. I've broken one of my plastic fuel lines. Since I have a new pump on the way, I'm thinking about replacing all of the lines, since I have no reference for how stiff/brittle these lines should be (note: everything rubber on my car is brittle, as if the car was baked at some point in time...).

Since the banjo ends are barbed, is there a fuel line/hose available that matches the stock line and will stay attached to the hose-ends? Or, is there a suitable replacement hose that may be clamped?

Zeeman, did you ever come up with a solution, or did you simply order replacement hoses from the dealership?

Funny you should bring that up again. I am at that point again trying to find replacement hose instead of buying all new complete hoses which are expensive.

I am told that they are Viton hoses and are metric. My local foreign parts store has referred me to a hose supply near me to see if they can come up with that size.

Up to this point I have been buying all the 603 fuel filter housings I can find with the hoses still attached that are in good shape. I change the housings on the OM 606 conversions I do when using the 603 IP pump.
There is also some hose on e-bay but no sure of the metric size needed.

I need to follow up on this for a solution.

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
04-12-2016, 03:55 AM #5
That is not hose, its tubing made of nylon, more comonly refered as teflon.
and its 7mil not sure if u can aquire that stuff any where, but one good substitute is air compressed tubing, wich any truck store have in many sizes and shapes and colours , i dough they have colorless Wink
good luck

FD,
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barrote
04-12-2016, 03:55 AM #5

That is not hose, its tubing made of nylon, more comonly refered as teflon.
and its 7mil not sure if u can aquire that stuff any where, but one good substitute is air compressed tubing, wich any truck store have in many sizes and shapes and colours , i dough they have colorless Wink
good luck


FD,
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Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
04-12-2016, 05:09 AM #6
As barrote says, it's nylon, which is compatible with diesel (not petrol though).

Push fit pneumatic hose is nylon and good and cheap to use.

***But be aware, some coloured pneumatic tubing is made from poly vinyl type stuff and it NOT compatible with diesel, if its translucent it will definitely be nylon.

Beers.




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
04-12-2016, 05:09 AM #6

As barrote says, it's nylon, which is compatible with diesel (not petrol though).

Push fit pneumatic hose is nylon and good and cheap to use.

***But be aware, some coloured pneumatic tubing is made from poly vinyl type stuff and it NOT compatible with diesel, if its translucent it will definitely be nylon.

Beers.





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

waz
GTA2056V

77
04-12-2016, 09:41 AM #7
Check McMaster Carr
Part number 5733K77

There are others that are harder, thicker, thinner, nylon instead of teflon,,,,,
Not sure if this one can stay on the barbs without clamps but, it has a wide variety of uses listed.

For Use With:
Acetic Acid, Acetone, Biodiesel, Bleach, Coolant, Deionized Water, Diesel Fuel, Fuel Oil, Gasoline, Hydraulic Fluid, Hydrochloric Acid, Hydrogen Peroxide, Isopropyl Alcohol, Kerosene, Methanol, Methyl Ethyl Ketone (MEK), Mineral Oil, Phosphoric Acid, Sodium Hydroxide, Sulfuric Acid, Vegetable Oil

***********************************************
1993 300D 2.5L turbo. W124.128   2.5L 602.962
1991 350SD W126.134  Transplanted a 3.0L 603.961 into it.

waz
04-12-2016, 09:41 AM #7

Check McMaster Carr
Part number 5733K77

There are others that are harder, thicker, thinner, nylon instead of teflon,,,,,
Not sure if this one can stay on the barbs without clamps but, it has a wide variety of uses listed.

For Use With:
Acetic Acid, Acetone, Biodiesel, Bleach, Coolant, Deionized Water, Diesel Fuel, Fuel Oil, Gasoline, Hydraulic Fluid, Hydrochloric Acid, Hydrogen Peroxide, Isopropyl Alcohol, Kerosene, Methanol, Methyl Ethyl Ketone (MEK), Mineral Oil, Phosphoric Acid, Sodium Hydroxide, Sulfuric Acid, Vegetable Oil


***********************************************
1993 300D 2.5L turbo. W124.128   2.5L 602.962
1991 350SD W126.134  Transplanted a 3.0L 603.961 into it.

EmJay
Holset

299
04-13-2016, 06:01 AM #8
Assuming that the size could be found, I've used motorcycle fuel hose for both gas and diesel. That is what our fleet mechanic recommended, and has used on our forklifts. Cheap and easy to find, plus for the custom crowd it comes in a variety of colors (including clear)

1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now
EmJay
04-13-2016, 06:01 AM #8

Assuming that the size could be found, I've used motorcycle fuel hose for both gas and diesel. That is what our fleet mechanic recommended, and has used on our forklifts. Cheap and easy to find, plus for the custom crowd it comes in a variety of colors (including clear)


1987 Mazda B2200 "outlaw" **planning phase**  Chevy 283, Power Pack heads, Edelbrock carb and intake, turbo 350 trans Smile
1985 Mercedes 300D stock for now

JVance
GTA2056V

92
04-13-2016, 08:30 AM #9
How much pressure do these lines see? (I do realize they are on the filter side, and fuel return...)
JVance
04-13-2016, 08:30 AM #9

How much pressure do these lines see? (I do realize they are on the filter side, and fuel return...)

zeeman
Holset

444
04-13-2016, 11:32 AM #10
(04-13-2016, 08:30 AM)JVance How much pressure do these lines see? (I do realize they are on the filter side, and fuel return...)

I would think it would be pretty low with the IP pump lift pump pressure. under 10 psi ? I know the bypass return line valve is set under that.
This post was last modified: 04-13-2016, 11:34 AM by zeeman.
zeeman
04-13-2016, 11:32 AM #10

(04-13-2016, 08:30 AM)JVance How much pressure do these lines see? (I do realize they are on the filter side, and fuel return...)

I would think it would be pretty low with the IP pump lift pump pressure. under 10 psi ? I know the bypass return line valve is set under that.

AlanMcR
mind - blown

400
04-14-2016, 02:43 PM #11
I think the average pressure is 1 bar / 15 psi. The pressure pulses rather vigorously with each stroke of the lift pump.
AlanMcR
04-14-2016, 02:43 PM #11

I think the average pressure is 1 bar / 15 psi. The pressure pulses rather vigorously with each stroke of the lift pump.

SurfRodder
Jackass Extraordinaire

611
04-18-2016, 08:49 PM #12
Here's what I did. Fixed it once and for good. See the pic in post 43 here:

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...6#pid40976

W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62
SurfRodder
04-18-2016, 08:49 PM #12

Here's what I did. Fixed it once and for good. See the pic in post 43 here:

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...6#pid40976


W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
04-19-2016, 07:10 AM #13
(04-13-2016, 08:30 AM)JVance How much pressure do these lines see? (I do realize they are on the filter side, and fuel return...)

On the vacuum side then upto 15psi (atmo) so probably about 15 on the pressure side.




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
04-19-2016, 07:10 AM #13

(04-13-2016, 08:30 AM)JVance How much pressure do these lines see? (I do realize they are on the filter side, and fuel return...)

On the vacuum side then upto 15psi (atmo) so probably about 15 on the pressure side.





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

Max
Turbinaaa

87
04-19-2016, 08:27 AM #14
Just go to the next MB-Dealer, for my 602 Build i got 1 Meter for free from my Partsguy at Mercedes.

Only thing is that the "new" Version of the Fuelline is black instead of translucent.

Greets

Max

______________________________________________________________
93´ W124 300TDT -> OM606.962 / RS 203 Dieselmeken 7,5mm 210cc / KKK K14 / Stock Transmission / 2,65 ASD
89´ 190D 2.5 Turbo -> OM605.960 / Dieselmeken 7,5mm 180cc / Holset HX30 Super / 716. 654 6-Speed / 2,87 Rear Axle
Max
04-19-2016, 08:27 AM #14

Just go to the next MB-Dealer, for my 602 Build i got 1 Meter for free from my Partsguy at Mercedes.

Only thing is that the "new" Version of the Fuelline is black instead of translucent.

Greets

Max


______________________________________________________________
93´ W124 300TDT -> OM606.962 / RS 203 Dieselmeken 7,5mm 210cc / KKK K14 / Stock Transmission / 2,65 ASD
89´ 190D 2.5 Turbo -> OM605.960 / Dieselmeken 7,5mm 180cc / Holset HX30 Super / 716. 654 6-Speed / 2,87 Rear Axle

AlanMcR
mind - blown

400
04-19-2016, 01:08 PM #15
(04-19-2016, 08:27 AM)Max ...Only thing is that the "new" Version of the Fuelline is black instead of translucent...

So MB finally figured out how to make OM606 fuel system even worse?
AlanMcR
04-19-2016, 01:08 PM #15

(04-19-2016, 08:27 AM)Max ...Only thing is that the "new" Version of the Fuelline is black instead of translucent...

So MB finally figured out how to make OM606 fuel system even worse?

Max
Turbinaaa

87
04-19-2016, 02:46 PM #16
No, 606/605 Fuel Lines are still available in translucent.

I was talking about the Lines for 601/02/03...

______________________________________________________________
93´ W124 300TDT -> OM606.962 / RS 203 Dieselmeken 7,5mm 210cc / KKK K14 / Stock Transmission / 2,65 ASD
89´ 190D 2.5 Turbo -> OM605.960 / Dieselmeken 7,5mm 180cc / Holset HX30 Super / 716. 654 6-Speed / 2,87 Rear Axle
Max
04-19-2016, 02:46 PM #16

No, 606/605 Fuel Lines are still available in translucent.

I was talking about the Lines for 601/02/03...


______________________________________________________________
93´ W124 300TDT -> OM606.962 / RS 203 Dieselmeken 7,5mm 210cc / KKK K14 / Stock Transmission / 2,65 ASD
89´ 190D 2.5 Turbo -> OM605.960 / Dieselmeken 7,5mm 180cc / Holset HX30 Super / 716. 654 6-Speed / 2,87 Rear Axle

 
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