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Compound om605 - mini project

Compound om605 - mini project

 
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F.R.A.S
Holset

579
10-27-2015, 09:52 AM #1
Hi guys.

So I was in a little accident 6-weeks ago and have been falling back on everything really. Crashed a friends bike in the side of a car and got five fractures. Broke my right ankle pretty bad and got three fractures in my right hand.

To celebrate me coming back to full speed I hooked a manifold build for an awesome guy in England.

We're gonna build a compound setup for him and the pictures and information I will post in this thread Tongue

If you like the idea and later on the pictures and text, PLEASE drop a comment so the thread lives to see another day.

This will maybe be THE fastest om605 in the UK. Only the owner will know.

(we have maybe three weeks till we can start the build so be patient please)




For more awesome stuff check out my Facebook-link below Big Grin

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
10-27-2015, 09:52 AM #1

Hi guys.

So I was in a little accident 6-weeks ago and have been falling back on everything really. Crashed a friends bike in the side of a car and got five fractures. Broke my right ankle pretty bad and got three fractures in my right hand.

To celebrate me coming back to full speed I hooked a manifold build for an awesome guy in England.

We're gonna build a compound setup for him and the pictures and information I will post in this thread Tongue

If you like the idea and later on the pictures and text, PLEASE drop a comment so the thread lives to see another day.

This will maybe be THE fastest om605 in the UK. Only the owner will know.

(we have maybe three weeks till we can start the build so be patient please)




For more awesome stuff check out my Facebook-link below Big Grin


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
10-27-2015, 10:17 AM #2
Yex mesh.




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
10-27-2015, 10:17 AM #2

Yex mesh.





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

Petar
7.5mm M pump

459
10-27-2015, 11:59 AM #3
Can't wait  Big Grin
Petar
10-27-2015, 11:59 AM #3

Can't wait  Big Grin

hooblah
Holset

401
10-27-2015, 02:12 PM #4
Yes please!
hooblah
10-27-2015, 02:12 PM #4

Yes please!

Max
Turbinaaa

87
10-27-2015, 04:43 PM #5
Compound OM 605 ???  YES !!!!!!! Big Grin

______________________________________________________________
93´ W124 300TDT -> OM606.962 / RS 203 Dieselmeken 7,5mm 210cc / KKK K14 / Stock Transmission / 2,65 ASD
89´ 190D 2.5 Turbo -> OM605.960 / Dieselmeken 7,5mm 180cc / Holset HX30 Super / 716. 654 6-Speed / 2,87 Rear Axle
Max
10-27-2015, 04:43 PM #5

Compound OM 605 ???  YES !!!!!!! Big Grin


______________________________________________________________
93´ W124 300TDT -> OM606.962 / RS 203 Dieselmeken 7,5mm 210cc / KKK K14 / Stock Transmission / 2,65 ASD
89´ 190D 2.5 Turbo -> OM605.960 / Dieselmeken 7,5mm 180cc / Holset HX30 Super / 716. 654 6-Speed / 2,87 Rear Axle

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
10-28-2015, 03:39 AM #6
Thanks guys Smile

I will start taking photos as soon as I have the time. One of the turbos have arrived so info about this is close by.

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
10-28-2015, 03:39 AM #6

Thanks guys Smile

I will start taking photos as soon as I have the time. One of the turbos have arrived so info about this is close by.


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

seanyt
is300d He351ve

279
10-28-2015, 05:17 AM #7
Subscribed
Hope your all good after the spill.
seanyt
10-28-2015, 05:17 AM #7

Subscribed
Hope your all good after the spill.

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
11-02-2015, 09:18 AM #8
Today I have a picture for you Smile

It's a 3LD and a HX52 but the 3LD might be swapped for a HX30 but we'll see.

[Image: om605-compound.jpg]

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
11-02-2015, 09:18 AM #8

Today I have a picture for you Smile

It's a 3LD and a HX52 but the 3LD might be swapped for a HX30 but we'll see.

[Image: om605-compound.jpg]


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
11-02-2015, 10:55 AM #9
Fras you gona install some serious waste gating around the HX30? The hot side on those is only 6cm isn't it.
You think a Hy35 is too big for good spool on that 605?

Beers.
This post was last modified: 11-02-2015, 10:56 AM by Hario'.




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
11-02-2015, 10:55 AM #9

Fras you gona install some serious waste gating around the HX30? The hot side on those is only 6cm isn't it.
You think a Hy35 is too big for good spool on that 605?

Beers.





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

Turbo
Holset

489
11-02-2015, 02:22 PM #10
looking interesting
So how is the plan exactly how you want them to work?
Turbo
11-02-2015, 02:22 PM #10

looking interesting
So how is the plan exactly how you want them to work?

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
11-03-2015, 02:43 AM #11
(11-02-2015, 10:55 AM)Hario Fras you gona install some serious waste gating around the HX30? The hot side on those is only 6cm isn't it.
You think a Hy35 is too big for good spool on that 605?

Beers.

We'll see a little how the finished thing will look like. The HX52 is a given contester here but the small one is not yet decided. Sure it will be bleeded of alright. The hy35 might be a good choice even though I believe it's just a tad to big. The only hy35 the customer could find used and around was in poor condition though.

(11-02-2015, 02:22 PM)Turbo looking interesting
So how is the plan exactly how you want them to work?

Like a bat out of hell  Big Grin haha no but seriously, just some good low down grunt a hellish top end more or less. We'll see Cool

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
11-03-2015, 02:43 AM #11

(11-02-2015, 10:55 AM)Hario Fras you gona install some serious waste gating around the HX30? The hot side on those is only 6cm isn't it.
You think a Hy35 is too big for good spool on that 605?

Beers.

We'll see a little how the finished thing will look like. The HX52 is a given contester here but the small one is not yet decided. Sure it will be bleeded of alright. The hy35 might be a good choice even though I believe it's just a tad to big. The only hy35 the customer could find used and around was in poor condition though.

(11-02-2015, 02:22 PM)Turbo looking interesting
So how is the plan exactly how you want them to work?

Like a bat out of hell  Big Grin haha no but seriously, just some good low down grunt a hellish top end more or less. We'll see Cool


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Turbo
Holset

489
11-03-2015, 05:17 AM #12
of course "skall den gå som ett skollat troll" but sequential, compound, inter cooler and after cooler? engine RPM range of turbos
Turbo
11-03-2015, 05:17 AM #12

of course "skall den gå som ett skollat troll" but sequential, compound, inter cooler and after cooler? engine RPM range of turbos

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
11-03-2015, 12:11 PM #13
Hx30 6cm and hx40 18cm hx40 in stamsaas build works, but hx30 is big bottle neck
Paul's hx35 12cm and hx52 16cm om606 is working good but high bacpressure due to hx35 turbine and housing
EDH_Performance
11-03-2015, 12:11 PM #13

Hx30 6cm and hx40 18cm hx40 in stamsaas build works, but hx30 is big bottle neck
Paul's hx35 12cm and hx52 16cm om606 is working good but high bacpressure due to hx35 turbine and housing

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
11-04-2015, 04:47 AM #14
Love the input guys. We'll see what happens with this setup Cool

I'll try to keep you posted Tongue

Did a little freshen up on the HX52 yesterday and now it looks like something I actually can use in this build.

[Image: Holset-HX52-compound-om605_1.jpg]

[Image: Holset-HX52-compound-om605_2.jpg]

[Image: Holset-HX52-compound-om605_3.jpg]

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
11-04-2015, 04:47 AM #14

Love the input guys. We'll see what happens with this setup Cool

I'll try to keep you posted Tongue

Did a little freshen up on the HX52 yesterday and now it looks like something I actually can use in this build.

[Image: Holset-HX52-compound-om605_1.jpg]

[Image: Holset-HX52-compound-om605_2.jpg]

[Image: Holset-HX52-compound-om605_3.jpg]


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

rolfts
K26-2

38
11-04-2015, 09:50 AM #15
I have a he341 with shot turbine wheel and oil ring.
Efr6758 something for a highpresure I'm selling it cheap for awesome diesel builds.

Can't wait for more pics on this build!!!
rolfts
11-04-2015, 09:50 AM #15

I have a he341 with shot turbine wheel and oil ring.
Efr6758 something for a highpresure I'm selling it cheap for awesome diesel builds.

Can't wait for more pics on this build!!!

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
11-04-2015, 10:09 AM #16
(11-04-2015, 04:47 AM)F.R.A.S Love the input guys. We'll see what happens with this setup Cool

I'll try to keep you posted Tongue

Did a little freshen up on the HX52 yesterday and now it looks like something I actually can use in this build.

[Image: Holset-HX52-compound-om605_1.jpg]

[Image: Holset-HX52-compound-om605_2.jpg]

[Image: Holset-HX52-compound-om605_3.jpg]

Paint only adds horsepower to ricers man..




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
11-04-2015, 10:09 AM #16

(11-04-2015, 04:47 AM)F.R.A.S Love the input guys. We'll see what happens with this setup Cool

I'll try to keep you posted Tongue

Did a little freshen up on the HX52 yesterday and now it looks like something I actually can use in this build.

[Image: Holset-HX52-compound-om605_1.jpg]

[Image: Holset-HX52-compound-om605_2.jpg]

[Image: Holset-HX52-compound-om605_3.jpg]

Paint only adds horsepower to ricers man..





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
11-04-2015, 10:13 AM #17
(11-03-2015, 12:11 PM)EDH_Performance Hx30 6cm and hx40 18cm hx40 in stamsaas build works, but hx30 is big bottle neck
Paul's hx35 12cm and hx52 16cm om606 is working good but high bacpressure due to hx35 turbine and housing

Is why I am thinking HY35 which is 9cm2 for the HP. With big 60mm gate around it, referencing EGP (so it opens and bypasses to LP as the HY turbine starts to become a bottleneck, set through trial and error).




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
11-04-2015, 10:13 AM #17

(11-03-2015, 12:11 PM)EDH_Performance Hx30 6cm and hx40 18cm hx40 in stamsaas build works, but hx30 is big bottle neck
Paul's hx35 12cm and hx52 16cm om606 is working good but high bacpressure due to hx35 turbine and housing

Is why I am thinking HY35 which is 9cm2 for the HP. With big 60mm gate around it, referencing EGP (so it opens and bypasses to LP as the HY turbine starts to become a bottleneck, set through trial and error).





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
11-04-2015, 11:13 AM #18
Haha might be so but it's a piss working with rusted old crap  Tongue

(11-04-2015, 10:09 AM)Hario Paint only adds horsepower to ricers man..

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
11-04-2015, 11:13 AM #18

Haha might be so but it's a piss working with rusted old crap  Tongue

(11-04-2015, 10:09 AM)Hario Paint only adds horsepower to ricers man..


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

rolfts
K26-2

38
11-04-2015, 12:48 PM #19
I have a he341 with shot turbine wheel and oil ring.
Efr6758 something for a highpresure I'm selling it cheap for awesome diesel builds.

Can't wait for more pics on this build!!!
rolfts
11-04-2015, 12:48 PM #19

I have a he341 with shot turbine wheel and oil ring.
Efr6758 something for a highpresure I'm selling it cheap for awesome diesel builds.

Can't wait for more pics on this build!!!

Keino
GT2256V

151
11-04-2015, 01:35 PM #20
Turbo looks alot nicer clean Big Grin
Keino
11-04-2015, 01:35 PM #20

Turbo looks alot nicer clean Big Grin

DANOM606
Naturally-aspirated

3
11-04-2015, 03:23 PM #21
Is the owner a member on here? I want to build a high power 605 in England so want some advice!!!
DANOM606
11-04-2015, 03:23 PM #21

Is the owner a member on here? I want to build a high power 605 in England so want some advice!!!

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
11-05-2015, 02:18 AM #22
I actually don't know. He messaged me through the webshop. But hey shoot me a message and we'll see what I can do for you.

(11-04-2015, 03:23 PM)DANOM606 Is the owner a member on here? I want to build a high power 605 in England so want some advice!!!

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
11-05-2015, 02:18 AM #22

I actually don't know. He messaged me through the webshop. But hey shoot me a message and we'll see what I can do for you.

(11-04-2015, 03:23 PM)DANOM606 Is the owner a member on here? I want to build a high power 605 in England so want some advice!!!


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
11-20-2015, 11:22 AM #23
http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/111828945517

Nailed it




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
11-20-2015, 11:22 AM #23

http://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/111828945517

Nailed it





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

atypicalguy
Holset

555
11-23-2015, 04:18 PM #24
What are the specs on that compound bw turbo?
atypicalguy
11-23-2015, 04:18 PM #24

What are the specs on that compound bw turbo?

raysorenson
Superturbo

1,162
11-24-2015, 08:38 AM #25
IDK about that particular RS2 turbo but the one fitted to the 4.5l international engine found in the Ford LCF is K16/K27 and makes 200hp on that engine. It's probably the largest of the RS2 variants and would not make a fire-breathing STD.
raysorenson
11-24-2015, 08:38 AM #25

IDK about that particular RS2 turbo but the one fitted to the 4.5l international engine found in the Ford LCF is K16/K27 and makes 200hp on that engine. It's probably the largest of the RS2 variants and would not make a fire-breathing STD.

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
11-24-2015, 09:16 AM #26
(11-23-2015, 04:18 PM)atypicalguy What are the specs on that compound bw turbo?

BW S250/S360




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
11-24-2015, 09:16 AM #26

(11-23-2015, 04:18 PM)atypicalguy What are the specs on that compound bw turbo?

BW S250/S360





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

hooblah
Holset

401
11-24-2015, 10:01 AM #27
No Harry that's the wrong one. It's a k03 and a b2. Way too small for a 606, more suited to 4cyl.
hooblah
11-24-2015, 10:01 AM #27

No Harry that's the wrong one. It's a k03 and a b2. Way too small for a 606, more suited to 4cyl.

atypicalguy
Holset

555
11-24-2015, 12:57 PM #28
Where do you guys get get info on these bw turbos?

I am trying to find a map for the k14 that came stock on an om606, but no luck so far.
atypicalguy
11-24-2015, 12:57 PM #28

Where do you guys get get info on these bw turbos?

I am trying to find a map for the k14 that came stock on an om606, but no luck so far.

blacksmoke
Naturally-aspirated

5
11-24-2015, 02:25 PM #29
the little turbo feeding the big one? what pump?
blacksmoke
11-24-2015, 02:25 PM #29

the little turbo feeding the big one? what pump?

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
11-25-2015, 09:20 AM #30
Will be a Dieselmeken 8mm for this project. More info later... Started to mock up the turbos yesterday. Damn there is a lack of space with that big ass hx52 Sad

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
11-25-2015, 09:20 AM #30

Will be a Dieselmeken 8mm for this project. More info later... Started to mock up the turbos yesterday. Damn there is a lack of space with that big ass hx52 Sad


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
11-30-2015, 08:34 AM #31
(11-25-2015, 09:20 AM)F.R.A.S Will be a Dieselmeken 8mm for this project. More info later... Started to mock up the turbos yesterday. Damn there is a lack of space with that big ass hx52 Sad

It's in a W202?




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
11-30-2015, 08:34 AM #31

(11-25-2015, 09:20 AM)F.R.A.S Will be a Dieselmeken 8mm for this project. More info later... Started to mock up the turbos yesterday. Damn there is a lack of space with that big ass hx52 Sad

It's in a W202?





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
12-02-2015, 02:27 AM #32
Yea it's in a w202 Undecided  Right now we have millimeters to spare and it's just so super tight. But we'll manage, will post a couple of pictures in a day or two...

(11-30-2015, 08:34 AM)Hario It's in a W202?

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
12-02-2015, 02:27 AM #32

Yea it's in a w202 Undecided  Right now we have millimeters to spare and it's just so super tight. But we'll manage, will post a couple of pictures in a day or two...

(11-30-2015, 08:34 AM)Hario It's in a W202?


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

atypicalguy
Holset

555
01-04-2016, 09:58 PM #33
The r2s units are often compound sequential with the tiny hp turbo. User Turbo here seems to be familiar with them.

It seems the controls are not at all straightforward with a compressor bypass for the hp turbo also

I posted a document with the various r2s setups and their applications. Industrial motors v light passenger vs commercial truck all have different optimal twin turbo relationships.

Best advice seems to be use a HP turbo that works well as a single, with a slightly larger exhaust housing. The big turbo can have a wastegate. The small turbo exists in a high pressure room created by the big one.
atypicalguy
01-04-2016, 09:58 PM #33

The r2s units are often compound sequential with the tiny hp turbo. User Turbo here seems to be familiar with them.

It seems the controls are not at all straightforward with a compressor bypass for the hp turbo also

I posted a document with the various r2s setups and their applications. Industrial motors v light passenger vs commercial truck all have different optimal twin turbo relationships.

Best advice seems to be use a HP turbo that works well as a single, with a slightly larger exhaust housing. The big turbo can have a wastegate. The small turbo exists in a high pressure room created by the big one.

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
01-19-2016, 04:20 AM #34
So guys, here is a sneak peak for you. Not done in a million years but you get the picture anyhow,

[Image: 20160119_093226.jpg]

On this and the next picture you can see the water cut support bracket we did for the hx52 Tongue
[Image: 20160119_093246.jpg]

[Image: 20160119_093256.jpg]

[Image: 20160119_093317.jpg]

When it's all welded up and the 4" stainless downpipe is in it's place it will be a pretty sweet setup.
This post was last modified: 01-19-2016, 04:27 AM by F.R.A.S.

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
01-19-2016, 04:20 AM #34

So guys, here is a sneak peak for you. Not done in a million years but you get the picture anyhow,

[Image: 20160119_093226.jpg]

On this and the next picture you can see the water cut support bracket we did for the hx52 Tongue
[Image: 20160119_093246.jpg]

[Image: 20160119_093256.jpg]

[Image: 20160119_093317.jpg]

When it's all welded up and the 4" stainless downpipe is in it's place it will be a pretty sweet setup.


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Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
01-19-2016, 07:21 AM #35
GOd dam LHD...




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
01-19-2016, 07:21 AM #35

GOd dam LHD...





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

atypicalguy
Holset

555
01-19-2016, 11:21 AM #36
What do you expect the price tag to be on this setup when done?
atypicalguy
01-19-2016, 11:21 AM #36

What do you expect the price tag to be on this setup when done?

sorin_cel
5fingers on a hand, 5cylinders block

71
01-19-2016, 01:17 PM #37
is this going to be a 600hp OM605, Fred ???
sorin_cel
01-19-2016, 01:17 PM #37

is this going to be a 600hp OM605, Fred ???

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
01-20-2016, 04:48 AM #38
Haha yea it's pretty sick

(01-19-2016, 07:21 AM)Hario GOd dam LHD...

It's time consuming to say the least. We'll see where it ends up.

(01-19-2016, 11:21 AM)atypicalguy What do you expect the price tag to be on this setup when done?

We'll see mate. It will be a beast however.

(01-19-2016, 01:17 PM)sorin_cel is this going to be a 600hp OM605, Fred ???

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F.R.A.S
01-20-2016, 04:48 AM #38

Haha yea it's pretty sick

(01-19-2016, 07:21 AM)Hario GOd dam LHD...

It's time consuming to say the least. We'll see where it ends up.

(01-19-2016, 11:21 AM)atypicalguy What do you expect the price tag to be on this setup when done?

We'll see mate. It will be a beast however.

(01-19-2016, 01:17 PM)sorin_cel is this going to be a 600hp OM605, Fred ???


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
01-20-2016, 08:54 AM #39
(01-20-2016, 04:48 AM)F.R.A.S
(01-19-2016, 07:21 AM)Hario GOd dam LHD...

It's time consuming to say the least. We'll see where it ends up.
I just re-read and saw this is for a RHD UK 202!
Amazing, you will have to get level 9 creative with the HP inlet




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
01-20-2016, 08:54 AM #39

(01-20-2016, 04:48 AM)F.R.A.S
(01-19-2016, 07:21 AM)Hario GOd dam LHD...

It's time consuming to say the least. We'll see where it ends up.
I just re-read and saw this is for a RHD UK 202!
Amazing, you will have to get level 9 creative with the HP inlet





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

atypicalguy
Holset

555
01-21-2016, 03:15 PM #40
ario
(11-03-2015, 12:11 PM)EDH_Performance Hx30 6cm and hx40 18cm hx40 in stamsaas build works, but hx30 is big bottle neck
Paul's hx35 12cm and hx52 16cm om606 is working good but high bacpressure due to hx35 turbine and housing

Is why I am thinking HY35 which is 9cm2 for the HP. With big 60mm gate around it, referencing EGP (so it opens and bypasses to LP as the HY turbine starts to become a bottleneck, set through trial and error).


Choosing the correct turbines and compressors seems like the hardest part. seems like opening the 60mm high pressure wastegate could drop the drive enough that the small turbo boost goes down before the large turbo spools. So you could get a bad power curve very easily.
atypicalguy
01-21-2016, 03:15 PM #40

ario

(11-03-2015, 12:11 PM)EDH_Performance Hx30 6cm and hx40 18cm hx40 in stamsaas build works, but hx30 is big bottle neck
Paul's hx35 12cm and hx52 16cm om606 is working good but high bacpressure due to hx35 turbine and housing

Is why I am thinking HY35 which is 9cm2 for the HP. With big 60mm gate around it, referencing EGP (so it opens and bypasses to LP as the HY turbine starts to become a bottleneck, set through trial and error).


Choosing the correct turbines and compressors seems like the hardest part. seems like opening the 60mm high pressure wastegate could drop the drive enough that the small turbo boost goes down before the large turbo spools. So you could get a bad power curve very easily.

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
01-22-2016, 06:53 AM #41
(01-21-2016, 03:15 PM)atypicalguy ario
(11-03-2015, 12:11 PM)EDH_Performance Hx30 6cm and hx40 18cm hx40 in stamsaas build works, but hx30 is big bottle neck
Paul's hx35 12cm and hx52 16cm om606 is working good but high bacpressure due to hx35 turbine and housing

Is why I am thinking HY35 which is 9cm2 for the HP. With big 60mm gate around it, referencing EGP (so it opens and bypasses to LP as the HY turbine starts to become a bottleneck, set through trial and error).


Choosing the correct turbines and compressors seems like the hardest part. seems like opening the 60mm high pressure wastegate could drop the drive enough that the small turbo boost goes down before the large turbo spools. So you could get a bad power curve very easily.

True!  So my friend has a wastegate I think he got from KKD and it has 3 or 4 ports so it can have more than one pressure reference, such as EGP and interstage boost pressure together to open (not against the same diaphragm of course).

People like me are too tight to spend £1k+ per turbo on a hobby build so I just try and science the shit out of it instead.




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
01-22-2016, 06:53 AM #41

(01-21-2016, 03:15 PM)atypicalguy ario
(11-03-2015, 12:11 PM)EDH_Performance Hx30 6cm and hx40 18cm hx40 in stamsaas build works, but hx30 is big bottle neck
Paul's hx35 12cm and hx52 16cm om606 is working good but high bacpressure due to hx35 turbine and housing

Is why I am thinking HY35 which is 9cm2 for the HP. With big 60mm gate around it, referencing EGP (so it opens and bypasses to LP as the HY turbine starts to become a bottleneck, set through trial and error).


Choosing the correct turbines and compressors seems like the hardest part. seems like opening the 60mm high pressure wastegate could drop the drive enough that the small turbo boost goes down before the large turbo spools. So you could get a bad power curve very easily.

True!  So my friend has a wastegate I think he got from KKD and it has 3 or 4 ports so it can have more than one pressure reference, such as EGP and interstage boost pressure together to open (not against the same diaphragm of course).

People like me are too tight to spend £1k+ per turbo on a hobby build so I just try and science the shit out of it instead.





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

atypicalguy
Holset

555
01-22-2016, 01:23 PM #42
Ok, but it seems hard to analyze the dynamic behavior of a 60mm wastegate opening up.
atypicalguy
01-22-2016, 01:23 PM #42

Ok, but it seems hard to analyze the dynamic behavior of a 60mm wastegate opening up.

atypicalguy
Holset

555
01-22-2016, 01:25 PM #43
The Stamsaas car got sold, jeemu build 605 didn't work. Do we actually have have a single dyno plot from a compound turbo 606? Maybe the second one EDH mentioned.
atypicalguy
01-22-2016, 01:25 PM #43

The Stamsaas car got sold, jeemu build 605 didn't work. Do we actually have have a single dyno plot from a compound turbo 606? Maybe the second one EDH mentioned.

Turbo
Holset

489
01-23-2016, 10:25 AM #44
Working on one, going to get back when it is dyno time
Turbo
01-23-2016, 10:25 AM #44

Working on one, going to get back when it is dyno time

maxypriest
Holset

287
01-25-2016, 06:51 AM #45
(01-19-2016, 07:21 AM)Hario GOd dam LHD...

I'll second that!!!!

W124 om606 HX40 finished and it's a beauty 450bhp/456ft-lbs
maxypriest
01-25-2016, 06:51 AM #45

(01-19-2016, 07:21 AM)Hario GOd dam LHD...

I'll second that!!!!


W124 om606 HX40 finished and it's a beauty 450bhp/456ft-lbs

atypicalguy
Holset

555
02-08-2016, 02:16 PM #46
Does a w124 have more room for turbos than this car? Thanks
atypicalguy
02-08-2016, 02:16 PM #46

Does a w124 have more room for turbos than this car? Thanks

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
02-09-2016, 04:54 AM #47
w124 has a lot more room.

(02-08-2016, 02:16 PM)atypicalguy Does a w124 have more room for turbos than this car? Thanks

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F.R.A.S
02-09-2016, 04:54 AM #47

w124 has a lot more room.

(02-08-2016, 02:16 PM)atypicalguy Does a w124 have more room for turbos than this car? Thanks


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I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

atypicalguy
Holset

555
02-09-2016, 11:07 AM #48
Need a similar setup.
atypicalguy
02-09-2016, 11:07 AM #48

Need a similar setup.

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
02-12-2016, 05:35 AM #49
Sure you do. Everyone needs one, most guys just don't know it yet Smile

Send me a message here mate and I'll hook you up Smile

(02-09-2016, 11:07 AM)atypicalguy Need a similar setup.

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I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
02-12-2016, 05:35 AM #49

Sure you do. Everyone needs one, most guys just don't know it yet Smile

Send me a message here mate and I'll hook you up Smile

(02-09-2016, 11:07 AM)atypicalguy Need a similar setup.


F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg] [Image: GTX3582R.jpg] [Image: gs6-53dz_gearbox.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

F.R.A.S
Holset

579
02-22-2016, 04:20 AM #50
Here's a little update.

[Image: om605-compound.jpg]

[Image: om605-compound_2.jpg]

[Image: om605-compound_3.jpg]

[Image: om605-compound_4.jpg]

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I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.
F.R.A.S
02-22-2016, 04:20 AM #50

Here's a little update.

[Image: om605-compound.jpg]

[Image: om605-compound_2.jpg]

[Image: om605-compound_3.jpg]

[Image: om605-compound_4.jpg]


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I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

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