Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke?
Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke?
10-30-2009, 04:39 PM
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(10-18-2009, 02:40 PM)ForcedInduction "Hey, since we totally screwed over our relationship with International and no longer have a Diesel engine supply, lets steal GM's 'exhaust in the valley' engine idea and get it into market before them!"
Depending on how you interpret that statement - it might not be technically true. The GM/Isuzu 6.6L Duramax has outboard exhaust manifolds - just like nearly any other V-configuration engine ever made. In fact, I can't think of any other V-configuration engine that doesn't have outboard exhaust manifolds.
This new Fjord engine has inboard exhaust manifolds in the valley (where the intake manifold would normally be) - unlike anything else I've ever seen...and honestly - the way to do things the RIGHT way if you need to put your turbo in the valley for packaging reasons.
Even as a die hard Cummins fan, I wish them luck...(as well as any other new diesel engine - can't have too many!!) no doubt it will have its share of calibration and emissions issues. We all know the 6.4L sure did - shooting flames out the tailpipe, etc. The Cummins 6.7L and newest versions of the GM/Isuzu 6.6L Duramax are also not free from calibration/emissions issues...but they're built on solid platforms that haven't changed much at all over the years.
Fjord really burned the bridges between them and ITEC. I'm not convinced that was a bad thing.
6.9L IDI = boat anchor
7.3L IDI = boat anchor
7.3L Power Stroke - all but one vintage = boat anchor
6.0L Power Stroke = not even worthy of boat anchor usage
6.4L Power Stroke = worst of the bunch...they're eating injectors and wiring harnesses (like the 7.3L PSD...) like candy
I'd take any Cummins B-series made and possibly a Duramax over anything that has ever been stuffed in a light duty Fjord pickup.
Beers,
Matt
'07 W211 OM642
'95 W124.131/722.435, 211k - daily driver/Superturbo project - OM606.962 with "M" pump...under construction! (build thread here)
'99 W210.025 - gone, but not forgotten
'94 Dodge/Cummins - gone, but not forgotten
HoleshotHolset
10-30-2009, 04:39 PM #3(10-18-2009, 02:40 PM)ForcedInduction "Hey, since we totally screwed over our relationship with International and no longer have a Diesel engine supply, lets steal GM's 'exhaust in the valley' engine idea and get it into market before them!"
Depending on how you interpret that statement - it might not be technically true. The GM/Isuzu 6.6L Duramax has outboard exhaust manifolds - just like nearly any other V-configuration engine ever made. In fact, I can't think of any other V-configuration engine that doesn't have outboard exhaust manifolds.
This new Fjord engine has inboard exhaust manifolds in the valley (where the intake manifold would normally be) - unlike anything else I've ever seen...and honestly - the way to do things the RIGHT way if you need to put your turbo in the valley for packaging reasons.
Even as a die hard Cummins fan, I wish them luck...(as well as any other new diesel engine - can't have too many!!) no doubt it will have its share of calibration and emissions issues. We all know the 6.4L sure did - shooting flames out the tailpipe, etc. The Cummins 6.7L and newest versions of the GM/Isuzu 6.6L Duramax are also not free from calibration/emissions issues...but they're built on solid platforms that haven't changed much at all over the years.
Fjord really burned the bridges between them and ITEC. I'm not convinced that was a bad thing.
6.9L IDI = boat anchor
7.3L IDI = boat anchor
7.3L Power Stroke - all but one vintage = boat anchor
6.0L Power Stroke = not even worthy of boat anchor usage
6.4L Power Stroke = worst of the bunch...they're eating injectors and wiring harnesses (like the 7.3L PSD...) like candy
I'd take any Cummins B-series made and possibly a Duramax over anything that has ever been stuffed in a light duty Fjord pickup.
Beers,
Matt
'07 W211 OM642
'95 W124.131/722.435, 211k - daily driver/Superturbo project - OM606.962 with "M" pump...under construction! (build thread here)
'99 W210.025 - gone, but not forgotten
'94 Dodge/Cummins - gone, but not forgotten
Messages In This Thread
Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by DeliveryValve - 10-18-2009, 08:33 AM
RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by ForcedInduction - 10-18-2009, 02:40 PM
RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by HoleshotHolset - 10-30-2009, 04:39 PM
RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by ForcedInduction - 10-30-2009, 07:54 PM
RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by HoleshotHolset - 11-02-2009, 12:23 PM
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RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by HoleshotHolset - 11-16-2009, 01:59 PM
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RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by ForcedInduction - 11-10-2009, 05:05 AM
RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by willbhere4u - 11-10-2009, 05:03 PM
RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by dropnosky - 11-19-2009, 04:15 PM
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RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by HoleshotHolset - 05-12-2011, 12:25 PM
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RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by dieselboy - 08-24-2011, 01:16 PM
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RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by Captain America - 09-06-2011, 11:13 PM
RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by dieselboy - 09-07-2011, 01:38 AM
RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by Snipe656 - 09-26-2011, 01:47 PM
RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by Captain America - 09-08-2011, 11:46 AM
RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by Duncansport - 05-17-2013, 02:33 PM
RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by raysorenson - 05-17-2013, 02:47 PM
RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by dieselboy - 05-18-2013, 12:09 AM
RE: Ford’s new 6.7L Power Stroke Diesel… will it be a Power Joke? - by Duncansport - 05-18-2013, 09:04 AM
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