(07-23-2014, 07:18 PM)ho55 Phew, thats good news, had me worried there.

(07-23-2014, 11:13 PM)vica153 Whats the deal with the mesh near the front that looks like a front pickup? And the secondary tube that goes part way back? ...is that a secondary pump that pulls oil from the front and dumps it in the sump?

Figures the solution would be discovered only after I fabricate a dry sump setup.

(07-23-2014, 11:13 PM)vica153 Whats the deal with the mesh near the front that looks like a front pickup? And the secondary tube that goes part way back? ...is that a secondary pump that pulls oil from the front and dumps it in the sump?

Figures the solution would be discovered only after I fabricate a dry sump setup.

(07-22-2014, 04:50 PM)ho55 I thought that Zeeman had confirmed that the 648 pump was a drop in fit. Zeeman did you really check for this offset?

(07-24-2014, 05:26 PM)ho55

(07-23-2014, 11:13 PM)vica153 Whats the deal with the mesh near the front that looks like a front pickup? And the secondary tube that goes part way back? ...is that a secondary pump that pulls oil from the front and dumps it in the sump?

Figures the solution would be discovered only after I fabricate a dry sump setup.

The port at the front with the mesh is the outlet. Drops the oil onto the front of the sump which aids cooling i guess.
Secondary tube at a guess - overpressure bypass?

Simon if you find the bolt part numbers could you post them please? And to be sure is this the 605 or 606 you are talking about. Shame they are different lengths i was just hoping to swap 4 over. I presume these can just be removed and re-torqued without upsetting the bearing shells?

(08-13-2014, 01:10 PM)ho55 Now the original pump has a square output aperture which mates against a square port on the engine, and i dont think an gasket was there. Which seems a bit strange.
The 648 pump has a round output with a recess, so it looks like an o-ring should go in there, which makes more sense.
Can one of you guys (Zeeman, Simon) confirm that it needs an o-ring?

(07-18-2014, 02:03 PM)ho55 Be patient and search ebay with the part number (6480140302) one will come up. Check on ebay.de specifically too. I found mine for 50 Eur.
You do know that you have to change the oilpump for the 648 type too, dont you? The 606 pump will not fit with the 648 sump.

(07-13-2014, 10:09 AM)hooblah The cheapest 648 sump I can find is over £100. Wouldnt it be cheaper to just cut the flange off the 606 sump, turn it around and weld it back together?
Or is there some reason why people aren't doing that?

Thanks man i needed that info.

(09-18-2014, 01:53 PM)wrinkols simonm16p6,

Which engine did the rear sump for your OM605 come from? I'm doing a swap into a 89 Raider and will likely need to have rear sump.

(09-21-2014, 03:27 PM)ho55 Yeah i noted that the splash guard from the 606 does not fit at the rear with the 648 pump.
I was going to leave it off, its not that critical is it?

(09-15-2014, 02:37 PM)MrHope Looks like this would be perfect for my diesel conversion project!

I have a GMC sierra classic longbed 2wd that originally had a 6,2 litre diesel.
But it broke down 20yrs ago and one of the previous owners replaced it with a regular gas 350.

the 350 works but dripps oil and has a bad ticking sound.. so the engine has to come out anyways...
And since im a mercedes guy why not put a real engine in there while im at it!

i have a stock om603 Turbodiesel and a stock om605 turbodiesel layin around, so i took my tapemeasure and started to scratch my head... 350 has rear sump and 603 has front sump.. it didnt fit very well ... =(

Started googling and found this!

And a few questions pops up!

1,
The 320 cdi pan compared to the stock oilpan how many cm do i gain ?

2,
Anyone have pic of the main cap bolts with treads on?

3,
Anyone driven an engine with this oilpan conversion yet ?

Alot of text and bad english Sorry!

/Martin From Sweden!

(10-01-2014, 10:14 AM)Hario simonm16p6 would you please furnish us with any information regarding your exhaust manifold made from sheetmetal?? It looks like Orgiami and I love it! Thanks

(10-08-2014, 07:28 AM)ho55 Hi Simon.
Yeah i guess i should source the correct OM648 oil guard. A bit hard to find, may have to buy new.
Any thoughts on what to do with the mismatched bolt holes? I am wondering whether to just leave it as there is most of the support done by the GB to engine bolts. Or to get a plate welded onto the GB. Or to make a set of small link brackets. Either one requires some machining work.

(01-22-2015, 02:26 AM)MrHope Would be an easy task for someone who has EPC.

i dont sorry.

(01-30-2015, 06:30 PM)ho55

(01-22-2015, 02:26 AM)MrHope Would be an easy task for someone who has EPC.

i dont sorry.

Anyone? Please.

(07-06-2016, 05:49 AM)50harleyrider The w211 were the only rear sump inline 6 MB diesels as far as I know. I searched far and wide for my OM648 setup. I think most of them are bought up and all the junk yards want to sell complete engines now for $2k and up. I got mine from CARCARMARCO <info@carcarmarco.pl> in Poland. Postagage was high but it was still a decent deal due to the cheap price and favorable exchange rates. Shoot them an email and have them be on the lookout for one.

(07-06-2016, 06:02 AM)50harleyrider That's great. I figure there are some in Europe. Problem is finding them and getting them across the big pond reasonably. If you know any sources that will ship to NA, please share them.

(10-10-2016, 09:28 AM)matfield Does anyone have a part no. for the crankshaft cap bolts with the internal thread for the rear bowl oil  pump?

(10-10-2016, 10:59 AM)50harleyrider Can't speak for the 605 but the 606.962 main bolts are already threaded for the CDI pickup tube support. I can verify you are correct, Ross. I recently put the rear sump on my F150 conversion so it's still fresh in my head. Zeeman should move to the east coast.

(10-10-2016, 02:12 PM)matfield Ok... good news. The local main dealers didn't have a clue what I was talking about, or anyida where to find them, even with engine numbers etc.

So when I pull off my old sump, the cap bolts for the new pump bracket are already threaded...?

I want to be certain before I ring him in the morning and tell him to stop looking.

Thanks again!

Mat

(10-10-2016, 10:59 AM)P50harleyrider Can't speak for the 605 but the 606.962 main bolts are already threaded for the CDI pickup tube support. I can verify you are correct, Ross. I recently put the rear sump on my F150 conversion so it's still fresh in my head. Zeeman should move to the east coast.