(02-05-2015, 06:32 PM)erx Is the headgasket made from metal or is it soft material like OM603? I really thought that rods go first.

Why are you going to use separate catch tank for fuel? I have 044 pump with FPR under the bonnet, fuel lines under the body and fuel tank are stock. I made it like that - fuel comes from tank to 044, after 044 there are FPR and from FPR overflow is not going back to fuel tank but it's running in little circle under the bonnet back to 044. Return line to fuel tank is stock from filter housing. I have fuel pressure 1 bar on idle and about 3 bar on max boost like Dieselmeken recommended. Maybe if I take picture you'll understand what i'm trying to explain.

(02-05-2015, 08:03 PM)Sjevsspeed.nl do u know wich company makes good metal head gaskets for om60x? i curently need for om606

(02-05-2015, 11:42 PM)maxypriest I take it you have a rising rate FPR that can handle 1-3bar fuel pressure?
What's make etc?
Cheers,
Max

(02-06-2015, 04:22 AM)erx I also have Tomei FPR, actually it's chinese replica but it'll do it's job.

(02-06-2015, 05:39 AM)Sjevsspeed.nl good to hear about the headgasket, then il leave the head on for now, also im going to source the best kind of valvesprings i can find for om60x engines,
i do suply malpassi fpr, theire not cheap but verry high quality

(02-06-2015, 04:02 AM)F.R.A.S Stock turbo gasket (elring) is super quality and multi layer steel

(02-05-2015, 08:03 PM)Sjevsspeed.nl do u know wich company makes good metal head gaskets for om60x? i curently need for om606

All normal FPR have a boost connection so if you have 0,5bar at idle you will have 3bar when boosting 2.5bar.

I will run a Tomei FPR set at a steady 3bar.

(02-05-2015, 11:42 PM)maxypriest I take it you have a rising rate FPR that can handle 1-3bar fuel pressure?
What's make etc?
Cheers,
Max

(02-12-2015, 04:08 AM)erx otherwise genuine lift pump couldn't make any pressure if it flows so easily through.

(02-12-2015, 04:08 AM)erx Is this scheme proven by someone? Can IP flow all that fuel quantity 044 is pumping? I have FPR before pump and with 3 bar most of the fuel goes to fuel return from FPR. It seems like IP can only take fuel that it needs, it is not circulating to fuel return, otherwise genuine lift pump couldn't make any pressure if it flows so easily through.

(02-12-2015, 11:01 AM)F.R.A.S

(02-12-2015, 04:08 AM)erx Is this scheme proven by someone? Can IP flow all that fuel quantity 044 is pumping? I have FPR before pump and with 3 bar most of the fuel goes to fuel return from FPR. It seems like IP can only take fuel that it needs, it is not circulating to fuel return, otherwise genuine lift pump couldn't make any pressure if it flows so easily through.

I HATE THE NEW FORUM   nothing works...

Off course this is proven THIS is how you do it. If you have the FPR before the IP, please tell me why you have that, how that work and what fuel pressure you have inside the IP.

And as the next guy said off course I don't have the factory restriction on the return side of the IP.

(02-12-2015, 12:37 PM)erx

(02-12-2015, 11:01 AM)F.R.A.S

(02-12-2015, 04:08 AM)erx Is this scheme proven by someone? Can IP flow all that fuel quantity 044 is pumping? I have FPR before pump and with 3 bar most of the fuel goes to fuel return from FPR. It seems like IP can only take fuel that it needs, it is not circulating to fuel return, otherwise genuine lift pump couldn't make any pressure if it flows so easily through.

I HATE THE NEW FORUM   nothing works...

Off course this is proven THIS is how you do it. If you have the FPR before the IP, please tell me why you have that, how that work and what fuel pressure you have inside the IP.

And as the next guy said off course I don't have the factory restriction on the return side of the IP.

Well, then it makes sense if there isn't restriction, then it's proper system. With restrictive banjo bolt FPR would be useless on that scheme. 

I use stock filter housing and stock return line, basically I just replaced stock lift pump with 044 and FPR. I use stock restriction banjo bolt, it also works as one way valve so fuel can't flow back when engine is not running. Maybe that's why it works without catch tank. 

(02-12-2015, 12:50 PM)F.R.A.S

(02-12-2015, 12:37 PM)erx

(02-12-2015, 11:01 AM)F.R.A.S I HATE THE NEW FORUM   nothing works...

Off course this is proven THIS is how you do it. If you have the FPR before the IP, please tell me why you have that, how that work and what fuel pressure you have inside the IP.

And as the next guy said off course I don't have the factory restriction on the return side of the IP.

Well, then it makes sense if there isn't restriction, then it's proper system. With restrictive banjo bolt FPR would be useless on that scheme. 

I use stock filter housing and stock return line, basically I just replaced stock lift pump with 044 and FPR. I use stock restriction banjo bolt, it also works as one way valve so fuel can't flow back when engine is not running. Maybe that's why it works without catch tank. 

I'm pretty sure your setup will make a lot less power then a real fuel system. I had a Holley Black with maxed out fuel pressure and only managed 2.5bar. With the new fuel system I will max out my turbo

Right now you are feeding the IP with your return line (from FPR) and that's not a lot off fuel. You would be better off with stock lift pump.

(02-12-2015, 01:31 PM)erx Huh, I'm not so good in technical english so I'll try to explain. I'm not saying your system is not good, it's better than my version but I just wanted to keep it stock and simple as much as possible. You think I put FPR between 044 and IP, ofcourse that way it makes no sense. Pump and FPR are running a little circuit before IP, holding pressure on IP inlet. Don't remember last time when I used Paint. 

(02-15-2015, 04:14 AM)erling66 Hi this is a great tread  
Have you changed the head gasket yet? will you use a 2.5L 0r 3.0L turbo gasket(bore 87mm)  or a gasket from 2.9 sprinter or OM603 3.5L since they have the same bore 89mm as the OM604? I don't know if the 2.9 or the 3.5 has a multilayer metal gasket?

(02-23-2015, 02:48 PM)Duncansport Hows that T56 adapter going :-)

(02-28-2015, 11:44 AM)saquzi So, you're using stock pistons? Are the H-rods the only mod on the insade of the engine? Mental. I was going to build on OM604 ST but i thought that the pistons/headgasget wouldn't make it. Have you thinked about om601 bottom and om604 cylinderhead together? Could use 605/606 turbo rods/pistons!

Still, those powers and boost with original rods... I'm impressed!

(02-28-2015, 12:10 PM)F.R.A.S

(02-28-2015, 11:44 AM)saquzi So, you're using stock pistons? Are the H-rods the only mod on the insade of the engine? Mental. I was going to build on OM604 ST but i thought that the pistons/headgasget wouldn't make it. Have you thinked about om601 bottom and om604 cylinderhead together? Could use 605/606 turbo rods/pistons!

Still, those powers and boost with original rods... I'm impressed!

Yes I have stock pistons.

Steel headgasket and forged rods are the only modification of the engine. Om601 bottom don't have oil squirters and I like the 2.2-liter and I don't see no reason to change pistons.

I hope to run out of fuel, then I know I have some good power

(02-28-2015, 02:09 PM)hents99 Are those rods from SPM ?

(02-28-2015, 02:27 PM)hents99 Chinese made but it doesn`t matter   I haven`t seen anything else instead of chinese h-beam rods. All high end brands.......

I use SPM rods in my 2.3-16 turbo engine and I`m happy with it. I have installed many different brand rods and to be honest all is the same....Prices are different.

I have sourced rods for OM606 and SPM seems to have rods for at least OM606 engine.

(03-05-2015, 01:30 PM)bonden_85 F Y I, there are actually Swedish-made rods available at: www.autoverdi.com/

A friend of mine had a set made by Verdi for his OM606, and i think Teemu Peltola also bought a set.
Don't remember the exact price per piece but they weren't ridicously expensive...

My friends car: https://www.facebook.com/016driftteam

(03-06-2015, 03:51 AM)Turbo I have spoken to the verdi seller, it amaze me all the time what people buy without any specificantion for what they are made for, and to say it holds in a 1300hp engie just say how little you know, the peak combustion presure in a diesel i way higher then in petrol engine, I said that to the sellers answer if I had a gas turbine, lol he was really killing me

I aksed a serious manufacture about rods, it was not 300M steel but from a nother manufacturer heat treated... and the cost was not that much bigger i think the dfferance against this was 500kr/rod

the orgininally rods in om606 is quite tuff, I have not seen anyone braking one even if they went out the block, so you you really need to ask your self do you really need then, then of course all new stuff is allways fun

I love your build fras!
was it the GT3071R you where using

(03-06-2015, 05:12 PM)Ksteen2 looks like it is going to be a monster 4 pot diesel

(03-06-2015, 04:35 PM)F.R.A.S How is the quality on these turbos and how well balanced are they? How much boost do you dare? Majesty78 said in the past you should be careful when running high boost with the GTX series of turbo(Garrett), but he never did developit even if I did ask him to develop

I have the gt3076r Chinese clone turbo. 2.5bar @ 3000rpm is what I've been running with N/A rods with no failure.

I've been speaking to Mr Stefan Verdi himself a dozen times.

(03-07-2015, 05:53 AM)F.R.A.S ok, thanks for intput
Yes the new series from garrett would be interesting, if they only could make it work so you could see the compressormap, I am building a turbo but I can not say that I like the GTX3576R compressor wheel that much since, resistance against surge is not as good as I would like...

You more or less get what you pay for. We buy quite a few clones so we have some trusted vendors and some vendors we try out. This turbo is medium quality from as far as I've seen. I have a bit of shaft play but I've been running maybe 1000km with 2.5bar of boost and no air filter I just hope it will manage +3bar of boost before it dies.

We have tried the Chinese clone gtx3582r at over 3bar on a om606 so I think it works

The brand new GTW-series from Garrett will be a good diesel turbo with it's wider compressor map and ability to handle more boost.

Cheers / F