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RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps - ForcedInduction - 08-02-2010
(08-02-2010, 11:03 AM)garage I plan on very soon modifing a w115 N/A intake to fit the om616..im sure that would be the ideal choice correct?
No difference. The W115 manifold is the same as your stock manifold except for bending upwards instead of straight out.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps - garage - 09-12-2010
(08-02-2010, 06:40 PM)ForcedInduction(08-02-2010, 11:03 AM)garage I plan on very soon modifing a w115 N/A intake to fit the om616..im sure that would be the ideal choice correct?
No difference. The W115 manifold is the same as your stock manifold except for bending upwards instead of straight out.
Well the fact the the w115's runners bend upwards causes more velocity right? And its further away from the exhaust manifold.
Its also more spacious in the engine bay.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps - Captain America - 09-12-2010
ooo spacious-ness is nice!
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps - ForcedInduction - 09-12-2010
(09-12-2010, 12:30 PM)garage Well the fact the the w115's runners bend upwards causes more velocity right?
No. Any change in direction causes restriction to flow.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - ForcedInduction - 11-08-2010
Pyrometer info added to the first post at the request of smoke026.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - BSharp - 11-15-2010
I adjusted the ALDA on my 602 87 190D turbo. Is there a chance of running the EGT up too high? I also added a boost controller and set it to 14 psi.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - ForcedInduction - 11-15-2010
The ALDA has no effect on EGTs at full boost.
14psi is too high, you don't need more than 12psi. More than necessary just increases drive pressure.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - BSharp - 11-15-2010
(11-15-2010, 10:42 PM)ForcedInduction The ALDA has no effect on EGTs at full boost.
14psi is too high, you don't need more than 12psi. More than necessary just increases drive pressure.
I thought stock PSI was 12.5-13 psi. for the 602
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - ForcedInduction - 11-15-2010
Stock is 9psi, the factory max spec is up to 12psi.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - BSharp - 11-15-2010
(11-15-2010, 10:58 PM)ForcedInduction Stock is 9psi, the factory max spec is up to 12psi.
Before I added the boost controller it would go to 12-12.5 all the time. Looks like it was at upper end of stock spec. Thanks
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - winmutt - 11-16-2010
(11-15-2010, 10:42 PM)ForcedInduction The ALDA has no effect on EGTs at full boost.Other than beneficial ones
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - NADC 300TD - 02-24-2011
I have a dumb question. What difference did taking out the rack have on fuel mileage?
Thanks
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Biohazard - 02-24-2011
None for me. Taking out the rack limiter only changes the amount of fuel at full-throttle. If you can keep your foot out of it, it won't affect milage at all.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - NADC 300TD - 02-24-2011
(02-24-2011, 10:56 AM)Biohazard None for me. Taking out the rack limiter only changes the amount of fuel at full-throttle. If you can keep your foot out of it, it won't affect milage at all.
Thanks for the info
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Captain America - 03-19-2011
The TC is a mother to adjust without a socket while the filter housing is on... So are the High Idle screws
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - ForcedInduction - 03-20-2011
Another good reason to leave the TC alone.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Captain America - 03-21-2011
Well, looks like I'm going to have to play with it. Removing the rack limiter did absolutely nothing... Still no smoke at any time besides a WOT rev in park.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - ForcedInduction - 03-21-2011
You have other issues. Removing the rack limiter produces an instant 20hp increase above 2500rpm when the boost is raised to match.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Captain America - 03-21-2011
Well there was a huge vacuum in the tank last night so that was part of it... Boost is @ 12psi
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - ForcedInduction - 03-21-2011
Check fuel supply pressure. It should be at least 15psi at WOT above 4000rpm.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - dieselboy - 03-21-2011
my rack limiter did nothing also
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - winmutt - 03-23-2011
Rack limiter will do nothing until you hit the top end. If it did nothing at all your pump probably could use a bench test.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Captain America - 03-23-2011
What do you consider "top end"?
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - ForcedInduction - 03-23-2011
(03-23-2011, 12:34 PM)winmutt Rack limiter will do nothing until you hit the top end.Incorrect. It increases fueling across the entire RPM range.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Captain America - 03-23-2011
Ok well overall its better, just not as good as I had hoped for.... need to make a TC socket...
I also need an EGT before I push it. I keep it at short burst right now so nothing gets hurt.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - ForcedInduction - 03-24-2011
(03-23-2011, 11:10 PM)Captain America Ok well overall its better, just not as good as I had hoped for
Whats better than "across the range"?
If you want more power above that range you need to adjust the governed RPM, not torque control.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Captain America - 03-24-2011
(03-24-2011, 09:13 AM)ForcedInduction Whats better than "across the range"?
Moar!
(03-24-2011, 09:13 AM)ForcedInduction If you want more power above that range you need to adjust the governed RPM, not torque control.
your talking the high idle screw?
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - dieselboy - 03-24-2011
Why would he adjust the governed rpm? He doesn't want to rev higher he wants more power. I havent touched my governor
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Captain America - 03-25-2011
(03-24-2011, 11:49 PM)dieselboy Why would he adjust the governed rpm? He doesn't want to rev higher he wants more power. I havent touched my governor
Where is the
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - ForcedInduction - 03-25-2011
(03-24-2011, 11:23 PM)Captain America your talking the high idle screw?
Yes.
Quote:Why would he adjust the governed rpm? He doesn't want to rev higher he wants more power.Boy, increasing the high idle screw raises the RPM where fuel begins to get cut off. Instead of fuel tapering off starting at 4200rpm to zero at 4800rpm it can make full power up to 4800rpm.
Quote:I havent touched my governorYou are a liar. Your videos and post comments prove you've altered it.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Captain America - 03-26-2011
Cool Forced. That's what I want to do. I can feel it start to taper around 42-4300 and the fuel CUTS off hard at 4700 or so
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Captain America - 03-27-2011
Which way does the high Idle screw need to be turned?
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - ForcedInduction - 03-28-2011
CW increases spring tension and raises cutoff rpm.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Captain America - 03-28-2011
Thank you sir..
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - led-panzer - 03-28-2011
I see on the M pump that the high idle goes up 150 rpm for every half turn, is it the same for the MW?
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Degen - 03-29-2011
Hi there!
Can someone help me to point out where to do what on my pump?
I cant find any picture on this forum thats exactly the same as mine so im just sending you some!
There are some thats similar but i wanna be sure on this before messing with the pump!
Thanks!
/Degen
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - babymog - 03-29-2011
The 10mm allen at the top of the first photo is the high-idle setting. 1 turn clockwise/tighter is approximately 150rpm increase.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Captain America - 04-06-2011
Where did all the text go in the first post?
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - garage - 04-06-2011
Somebody else must have all that copied and saved.
If so, please put it up.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - aaa - 04-06-2011
I'm surprised that winmutt didn't disable old editing like they did at peachparts, for this very reason.
If you're wondering what happened, FI took his ball and went home. Probably why he got banned.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Captain America - 04-07-2011
Should I change my avatar now???
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - dieselboy - 04-07-2011
(04-07-2011, 03:54 PM)Captain America Should I change my avatar now???
Lol
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - polarisrmk - 04-07-2011
the directions are still on peachparts.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - OM616 - 04-08-2011
(04-07-2011, 10:38 PM)polarisrmk the directions are still on peachparts.
Friendly warning about the directions for a Torque Control adjustment on a MW IP with an RW governor. I am not interested in saving anyone from anyone, that being said, his directions can result in the lack of a good return to Idle after the adjustment.
To give everyone a reference, after explaining how to set the Idle after a TC adjustment, one gentleman had his TC at 6 turns in, and following my directions, was able to get a good return to idle.
I have also had 7 members of different forums bring me their cars to get them to Idle properly after following the instructions that were posted.
If there is any interest, I am willing to work with the moderators to correct the directions, which will allow the user to be able to actually set the rate, (how quickly), the engine returns to Idle, this is nice for manual transmissions.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - garage - 04-09-2011
I think that would be a great idea om616
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - winmutt - 04-11-2011
Does anyone else have a drop in top end with the TC adjustment?
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Captain America - 04-12-2011
(04-08-2011, 02:50 PM)OM616(04-07-2011, 10:38 PM)polarisrmk the directions are still on peachparts.
Friendly warning about the directions for a Torque Control adjustment on a MW IP with an RW governor. I am not interested in saving anyone from anyone, that being said, his directions can result in the lack of a good return to Idle after the adjustment.
To give everyone a reference, after explaining how to set the Idle after a TC adjustment, one gentleman had his TC at 6 turns in, and following my directions, was able to get a good return to idle.
I have also had 7 members of different forums bring me their cars to get them to Idle properly after following the instructions that were posted.
If there is any interest, I am willing to work with the moderators to correct the directions, which will allow the user to be able to actually set the rate, (how quickly), the engine returns to Idle, this is nice for manual transmissions.
Please Post!
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Captain America - 04-13-2011
OM616 it's not nice to taunt!
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - aaa - 04-13-2011
Don't nag him. We'll recreate the thread when we recreate the thread.
RE: IP Full Load Adjustment Procedure for the MW and M pumps, pyrometer install - Captain America - 04-13-2011
Ok, Ok. Sorry haha