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RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 09-07-2013

get time for some work

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Ksteen2 - 09-09-2013

that is looking verry good Wink
are you getting some difference in the means of power?

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - HaavardPYA - 09-11-2013

PTE FFSBig Grin

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - mantahead - 09-11-2013

any smoke yet?Big Grin

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 09-11-2013

I hope tomorrow I can make some ghetto Downpipe to make some tests. now is more smoke in the car than out Big Grin

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Simpler=Better - 09-11-2013

That wastegate is gorgeous!

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - willbhere4u - 09-11-2013

very nice twin scroll all the way to the waste gate!

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Ksteen2 - 09-12-2013

how much power are you aiming for?
what kind of diesel cc do you have?
great prodject Wink

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 09-12-2013

500hp with lower exhaust pressure at higher rpm
180cc 7.5mm

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Ksteen2 - 09-13-2013

get a movie to show us Wink

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 10-12-2013

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Test
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Wow it work with the upload link.

I press all the springs together for the WG and make new Downpipe and WG pipe

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Tovikblacksmoke - 11-10-2013

Hello! nice building you got there!! im planing to built something like this too Wink and you are a great inspire! But a few question.. how does the 716.654 gearbox atatch to the engine? is it bolt on? And how does it fit to rest of the drivertain? specialllly the cardang? thats not bolt on ?? Is the 716.654 gearbox hold yourr tq and hp ? Big Grin

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - _siim_ - 11-11-2013

Only bmw 3.0d gearbox can handle this power/torq,or mercedes automatic.

Sooner or later merc manual fails,first bearings and then gears Smile been here,done that Wink

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 11-11-2013

(11-10-2013, 09:31 PM)Tovikblacksmoke Hello! nice building you got there!! im planing to built something like this too Wink and you are a great inspire! But a few question.. how does the 716.654 gearbox atatch to the engine? is it bolt on? And how does it fit to rest of the drivertain? specialllly the cardang? thats not bolt on ?? Is the 716.654 gearbox hold yourr tq and hp ? Big Grin

The gearbox fit nice to the engine. The rest is not so hard. I use flex plate and first part from c class. And the from the middle to the back the stock 300d. The normal 5 speed I destroy 3 of it. This is done really fast. 1. 2. Klackkkkk..:-)
6speed hold the power now. But with big silks is also would brake. I think :-) sorry what's the cardang?
Greetings
Hans

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Ksteen2 - 11-12-2013

a cardang is a differential :p

have you made a high boost clip yet?
waiting to se :p
looks like it work good on 1.8 bar :p

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 11-15-2013

I use normal ASD diff. But longer than the sock 3.46
If it's dry tomorrow yo get a clip:-)

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - raysorenson - 11-15-2013

I was thinking cardang=cardan=u-joint (or flex disc if you're flexible)

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 11-15-2013

(11-15-2013, 12:20 PM)raysorenson I was thinking cardang=cardan=u-joint (or flex disc if you're flexible)

Ahh that's all Mercedes parts. C220cdi and w124 300d. Flex disc look like normal disc but is a little bit harder for taxi use.

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 11-16-2013

(11-12-2013, 05:23 AM)Ksteen2 a cardang is a differential :p

have you made a high boost clip yet?
waiting to se :p
looks like it work good on 1.8 bar :p

here is your clipBig Grin

http://youtu.be/QwIm93biIQg

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Tito - 11-16-2013

Damn, I love this ride. Been following it quite some time on youtube. Keep up the good job!

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - maxypriest - 11-17-2013

More inspiration!

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Ksteen2 - 11-18-2013

love the clip, please make more of them :p

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Triker - 11-18-2013

You need more grip Big Grin When the turbo spools great after 3500rpm you loose the force to sky Big Grin It would nice to see how it goes without wheel spin Cool Overall great job man.

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - _siim_ - 11-18-2013

Why only 2 bar? I have used 3bar on same stock engine...

But jees,it is one damn fast diesel Big Grin nice job.

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Gasoil - 11-18-2013

(11-18-2013, 04:14 PM)_siim_ Why only 2 bar? I have used 3bar on same stock engine...

But jees,it is one damn fast diesel Big Grin nice job.


Siim, see the new video again, at top left appears "2 bar" and later "3 bar".

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - _siim_ - 11-18-2013

Jep I notice it now,not bad at all Big Grin

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - HaavardPYA - 11-18-2013

DieselpornWink
More vids from the outsideWink

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Ksteen2 - 11-19-2013

if I ever wisit your home town, I want to se that black smoker sideways in the city :p

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Gasoil - 11-19-2013

I think we all are expecting new video from outside, as the first videos from Hanse with a friend filming burn outs and their word "moookkkkk!!!!!!!!"......of course another one in dyno with the new manifold.

Can be a hard test to see the strenght of the gearbox and rear end...it is the "small" 185mm, 2,65 ratio? Hope not break nothing...

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Tovikblacksmoke - 11-20-2013

this car is insane! get a chill down my back when i see the video!! Awesome man! Engine still stock and unopened ?? Big Grin

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 11-21-2013

Thanks you very much to all! It feels good to see that people like that diesel suff. Thx!

The rear end is small one I think 3.26 or 3.07. It's verry short the under gears but the high rpm can push the 260kmh tach on max ;-)
Yes the engine is still unopened at all.

Im looking for some intake update and don't know how I should it do..

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Gasoil - 11-21-2013

You can see the diff ratio , clean with gasoline, solvent or a knife-cutter the lower right side at the rear of the diff, the ratio is stamped.
I made (not weld...) this manifold for my engine, 89mm (3,5") intake tube, with that "difussers" to flow all cylinders, is not a race manifold, but well, its done by me....stock 606.962 has only 60mm intake and has the EGR actuator.
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RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Ksteen2 - 11-22-2013

that manifold looks sweet!

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - erling66 - 11-24-2013

Gasoil I like your manifold, quite similar to my own idea. Has it been flow tested or is that design a result of some calculation? Or is it just your idea of what should flow very well?

Hansebanger, it looks like you are on the right track to a real superturbodieselBig Grin Thank you for sharing

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - majesty78 - 11-25-2013

A few days ago Hans brought me his old Holset HX40 turbo for revision.

I stripped it down today and found some good news, and also some bad news.

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The good news:
The bearings of Holset turbos are incedibly strong and withstand quite some load and heavy boosting.
You can hardly see on the bearings that this turbo even ever was running, you have to look very close.
Thrust and main bearings, as like the piston sealant rings are in good condition.

The bad news:
The HX40 compressor wheel has seen some overspeeding, the effect is so called "overspeeding distortion" which can be seen on the backside of the wheel.
This occurs when the max. rpm limit from the compressor wheel is exceeded, the wheel "grows" due to g-forces and the backside of the wheel warps.
In this case it also had a very slight touch in compressor housing, just as much so you can notice it, nothing to worry about for the housing. Another side effect of overspeeding is, that the center bore also grows, so the wheel was sitting very lose on the shaft once the shaft nut was losened.

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The rest of turbo also was refurbished, a new genuine Holste bearing/sealant kit was used and a new compressor wheel is on order.
It then will be balanced and ready to go for another crazy boost party ^^

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Naaauuuuuu ^^

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 11-26-2013

(11-21-2013, 04:40 PM)Gasoil You can see the diff ratio , clean with gasoline, solvent or a knife-cutter the lower right side at the rear of the diff, the ratio is stamped.
I made (not weld...) this manifold for my engine, 89mm (3,5") intake tube, with that "difussers" to flow all cylinders, is not a race manifold, but well, its done by me....stock 606.962 has only 60mm intake and has the EGR actuator.

Lookink good! I want build some like that but I'm want use the NA intake because the room for nice adjust Alda and fuel. Not sure abaut that. Thx for the pics!
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Looks better as new:-)



Naaauuuuuu ^^
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Looks better as new:-)



Naaauuuuuu ^^
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RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - majesty78 - 11-26-2013

Tripple quote in one post ------ 1 life up ^^

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - willbhere4u - 11-26-2013

Is there any way to strengthen the compressor wheel to handle over speeding? maybe a better alloy?

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Gasoil - 11-26-2013

Erling66, no calculations about flow, only watching the intake tube, and thinking what could be made (something easy) to improve flow to all cylinders, a race manifold it is more difficult to made, more expensive and time consuming. I used 4mm aluminium, perhaps too thick...

Hanse, you use the N/A manifold, as you say to easy access to IP, but watching the desing I think is best the Turbo manifold, but is only my opinion...

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - majesty78 - 11-26-2013

(11-26-2013, 11:18 AM)willbhere4u Is there any way to strengthen the compressor wheel to handle over speeding? maybe a better alloy?

You could have a forged, milled titanium version but its a bit expensive ^^

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Tovikblacksmoke - 11-28-2013

Are u using a 606.910 or 606.962 ? Smile

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 11-28-2013

(11-28-2013, 09:03 AM)Tovikblacksmoke Are u using a 606.910 or 606.962 ? Smile
Look how my thread is named;-)

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Tovikblacksmoke - 12-02-2013

my bad! Big Grin

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - GoranOne - 12-18-2013

Wooow...

This project you did here is incredible.
Got to say you inspired me.

Keep up with this, I follow..

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Ksteen2 - 12-20-2013

something new happend or?

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Tito - 12-20-2013

What clutch are you using? Still with the dual mass flywheel?

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 12-22-2013

(12-20-2013, 09:11 AM)Tito What clutch are you using? Still with the dual mass flywheel?

Still Dualmass with the self made sinter disc. But it's on limit clutch must compleed closed before boost start :-) and at Christmas ...iiiiimm dreaming of a niiiice intaaake.. hehe

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 12-23-2013

http://youtu.be/NKazym6zTGg

Marry Christmas to all dieseldudes:-)

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - DiseaselWeasel - 12-24-2013

Des Vdeo is doch getürkt! Big Grin Völliger Wahnsinn...

RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 01-10-2014

Hi guys !
Anybody can confirm that I can mount a 606 NA oilpan on my 606turbo block to have more space to the sway bar . Fits plug and play?
Thy