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RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - HaavardPYA - 01-12-2014
Yep! Bolt on..
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Ksteen2 - 01-30-2014
Have you changed valve springs?
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 02-01-2014
No ksteen , never opend. If I blow the head up from the engine I want make some good head update. Not shure about the harder springs. There are a thread with big fail on valve ?
I think i have power enough up to 6000 I dont must rev higher. Ok if I must rebuild the head I could think about it :-)
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - JustPassinThru - 02-02-2014
(01-10-2014, 05:32 AM)hansebanger77 Hi guys !
Anybody can confirm that I can mount a 606 NA oilpan on my 606turbo block to have more space to the sway bar . Fits plug and play?
Thy
The opposite case also works. I have two engines, a 606.962 and a 606.912, on palettes in my garage. Both engines have oilpan Part # 606 014 08 02, which is a 606.962 oilpan. The 606NA engine, I pulled myself from a wrecked '97 300D, so it was being driven with the 606turbo oilpan.
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - EDH_Performance - 02-02-2014
(02-01-2014, 02:49 AM)hansebanger77 No ksteen , never opend. If I blow the head up from the engine I want make some good head update. Not shure about the harder springs. There are a thread with big fail on valve ?
I think i have power enough up to 6000 I dont must rev higher. Ok if I must rebuild the head I could think about it :-)
Can you link to that thread?
I think it is because high revving on stock valvesprings...
Stock springs is really rubbish, only 17-18kg rating
Kmcams spring is good for about 8000rpm and have 38kg rating
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 02-02-2014
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thread-1991-300D--4514?page=2
Do you have mod some other things with this high ratio springs. I remind you have weld some stuff at the camshaft to the wheel for timing chain? Is it not more stress for the chain or some stuff ore harder to crank the engine ? Thx dani:-)
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - mantahead - 02-02-2014
i suppose, when you are running supercharger, injector pump with larger plungers and then stronger valve springs it going to put more pressure on the crank and cam sprockets.
those km springs at 38kg should be ok,
just saw mitsibishi 4g63 springs data,
Seat @ 1.50" = 85lbs
.473" = 202lbs
Max Recommended Lift: 12mm
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - EDH_Performance - 02-02-2014
(02-02-2014, 07:40 AM)hansebanger77 http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thread-1991-300D--4514?page=2
Do you have mod some other things with this high ratio springs. I remind you have weld some stuff at the camshaft to the wheel for timing chain? Is it not more stress for the chain or some stuff ore harder to crank the engine ? Thx dani:-)
You must drill and secure the sprocket on the intake camshaft because this is just pressed on:S
And i drilled and installed an extra wedge on the cranckshaft timing gear for extra protection
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Duncansport - 02-02-2014
I found that these springs from a ford modular 4.6 are about the same size and offer twice the seat pressure at 1.470 as the stock 605/606. You do need to change the lower spring seat.
These are 90lbs @ 1.470 and i measure my 605 springs at 25-40lbs at 1.500.
I think the KM cams springs are the best bet for most as they are a drop in. But for me ( someone who always does things his own way ) i was happy buying the spring seats and springs from someone local (comp cams) for $250 shipped.
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - EDH_Performance - 02-03-2014
(02-02-2014, 07:46 PM)Duncansport I found that these springs from a ford modular 4.6 are about the same size and offer twice the seat pressure at 1.470 as the stock 605/606. You do need to change the lower spring seat.
These are 90lbs @ 1.470 and i measure my 605 springs at 25-40lbs at 1.500.
I think the KM cams springs are the best bet for most as they are a drop in. But for me ( someone who always does things his own way ) i was happy buying the spring seats and springs from someone local (comp cams) for $250 shipped.
You newer know, they look like the ones from kmcams
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Duncansport - 02-03-2014
(02-03-2014, 03:52 AM)EDH_Performance(02-02-2014, 07:46 PM)Duncansport I found that these springs from a ford modular 4.6 are about the same size and offer twice the seat pressure at 1.470 as the stock 605/606. You do need to change the lower spring seat.
These are 90lbs @ 1.470 and i measure my 605 springs at 25-40lbs at 1.500.
I think the KM cams springs are the best bet for most as they are a drop in. But for me ( someone who always does things his own way ) i was happy buying the spring seats and springs from someone local (comp cams) for $250 shipped.
You newer know, they look like the ones from kmcams
My thoughts too
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - raysorenson - 02-03-2014
2v 4.6? There's a date split on 4.6/5.4 2v springs that seems to correspond to moving over to the PI heads. '96-'98 takes a F6AZ-6513-AA for intake and exhaust. '99 up takes XL3Z-6513-AA for both valves.
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Demenyteam - 02-09-2014
Hello!
Ihave a problem!
I have a w124 with 606962 engine and with clk 200 compressor 6gang transmission!
There is some solution to the speedometer?
Thanks for the reply!
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Gasoil - 02-10-2014
(02-09-2014, 03:46 PM)Demenyteam Hello!
Ihave a problem!
I have a w124 with 606962 engine and with clk 200 compressor 6gang transmission!
There is some solution to the speedometer?
Thanks for the reply!
Hi Demenyteam, welcome to forum.
Yes, there is a solution for that, search in Drivetrain section and look a thread from the same author of this thread, somebody post a electronic conversor from electric signal to mechanical, Abbott-tach is the manufacturer, product "Cable X".
http://www.abbott-tach.com/Cable%20X.html
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Tovikblacksmoke - 02-19-2014
Hai again! Do you run with stock injector openingpressure? Or do you have it rebuild to 150bar?
You get 180cc on 7.5mm? I just told i get 140-150cc on 7.5mm...
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 02-22-2014
Hello. The injectors Open normal pressure. Do you think its better to 150bar?
Yes pump is build for 180cc 7.5 but it's not fully adjust. Perhaps 160-170 i running now.
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - NGARover - 02-22-2014
Have to say... I have watched this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziW3TnKKnKg&feature=colike at least 100 times. I have showed it to at least 30 people. Everyone just stops and is in awe. Please do another one like it. That final drive by near the end... omg... that is music right there! You sir have set the bar.
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Tovikblacksmoke - 02-23-2014
Gøran on dieselmeken says its better that the injector opens at 150bar.. What different it wil make am i not sure off.. Maybe you can find out
? And make this beauty even better You have dieselmeken pump? and got 180cc out of 7,5 mm.. hmm why was i told i only get 150cc..
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 02-24-2014
Yes i have DM pump.
It could be that You get 150cc adjusted and if you not destroy your engine than you have a bit reserve for more. Or vou have order a pump for about 400hp than you never need a monster pump. It depends what you want to do with it. Better it's nice calibrated pump, than a pump on limit that make some fail. There are more tricky adjustments than the most think.
Best is you contact himself and tell him your project he have the right pump for you.
...thx NGAROVER nice that you like it, run still fine with the new turbo. If I get time for next upgrades on car I will make new vid for sure.
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - sorin_cel - 04-27-2014
hello Hansebanger.have you had any overheating issues on daily driving basis? is your stock radiator capable to keep the engine cool?
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - maxypriest - 04-28-2014
(02-22-2014, 02:11 PM)NGARover Have to say... I have watched this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziW3TnKKnKg&feature=colike at least 100 times. I have showed it to at least 30 people. Everyone just stops and is in awe. Please do another one like it. That final drive by near the end... omg... that is music right there! You sir have set the bar.
This is my particular favourite hansebanger.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ICqeREP8Je4
Max
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 04-28-2014
(04-27-2014, 01:28 PM)sorin_cel hello Hansebanger.have you had any overheating issues on daily driving basis? is your stock radiator capable to keep the engine cool?
I have electric fan from spal on stock radiators working got but also get higher temp at crazy driving. :-)
(04-28-2014, 04:35 AM)maxypriest(02-22-2014, 02:11 PM)NGARover Have to say... I have watched this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziW3TnKKnKg&feature=colike at least 100 times. I have showed it to at least 30 people. Everyone just stops and is in awe. Please do another one like it. That final drive by near the end... omg... that is music right there! You sir have set the bar.
This is my particular favourite hansebanger.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ICqeREP8Je4
Max
This is older vid with other turbo and less power.
and not my YouTube channel hehe :-)
That's more powerful adjustment;-)
http://youtu.be/NKazym6zTGg
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - sorin_cel - 04-28-2014
(04-28-2014, 10:32 AM)hansebanger77(04-27-2014, 01:28 PM)sorin_cel hello Hansebanger.have you had any overheating issues on daily driving basis? is your stock radiator capable to keep the engine cool?
I have electric fan from spal on stock radiators working got but also get higher temp at crazy driving. :-)
(04-28-2014, 04:35 AM)maxypriest(02-22-2014, 02:11 PM)NGARover Have to say... I have watched this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziW3TnKKnKg&feature=colike at least 100 times. I have showed it to at least 30 people. Everyone just stops and is in awe. Please do another one like it. That final drive by near the end... omg... that is music right there! You sir have set the bar.
This is my particular favourite hansebanger.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ICqeREP8Je4
Max
This is older vid with other turbo and less power.
and not my YouTube channel hehe :-)
That's more powerful adjustment;-)
http://youtu.be/NKazym6zTGg
that's massive diesel rocket on wheels.unbeliveble torque!
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Tovikblacksmoke - 05-08-2014
Hey there!
U have some pics of where u put the intercooler and piping? did u use 3" yeah? i think i might have an idea but im not shure..
Thank you
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Ksteen2 - 10-30-2014
hello, what kind off clutch do you use?
still orginal dual mass flywheel?
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Duncansport - 10-31-2014
hansebanger77- Are you still using a precision turbo? Ive been back and fourth on my 605 if i will go a PTE, EFR or a HE351cw. Strongly leaning toward EFR7670 as i like the fit and finish of having a big internal wastegate.
Ben-
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 10-31-2014
(10-30-2014, 03:45 PM)Ksteen2 hello, what kind off clutch do you use?
still orginal dual mass flywheel?
Stock dualmass and selfmade Disk with 4 sinterpads. Pressureplate is also stock but harder spring by Sachs race
(10-31-2014, 09:35 AM)Duncansport hansebanger77- Are you still using a precision turbo? Ive been back and fourth on my 605 if i will go a PTE, EFR or a HE351cw. Strongly leaning toward EFR7670 as i like the fit and finish of having a big internal wastegate.
Ben-
Hello. Yes still using the pt 6766. All ok so far. Driving around with about 2,3 bar open WG. But it goes easy over 3 bar boost wg closed.
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Gasoil - 11-01-2014
A dyno when you´ll fit a new intake manifold??
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 11-02-2014
(11-01-2014, 03:55 PM)Gasoil A dyno when you´ll fit a new intake manifold??
For sure I must go dyno again. I hope soon:-)
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Ksteen2 - 11-03-2014
Harder springs? Do you have å part number or maybe a link to where
You got it?
I am using the same tranny in my new car
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 11-04-2014
(11-03-2014, 09:02 PM)Ksteen2 Harder springs? Do you have å part number or maybe a link to where
You got it?
I am using the same tranny in my new car
I think it was sachsperformance.com
I call them and ask for better clutch for w124 300d. The guy was friendly and sad yes its no problem they make the pressure plate a bit stiffer so it have more pressure to the disc. I send him the PP
they also make better organic pads. But the funny part was that the pp give 10% perhaps the disc update also 10%. So if it's rated 200nm + 20% I don't get 800nm:-)
So ok I tested long ago with only the better pp and it was the same sh..
so we fabricated a stock disc with 4 sinterpads that holds the amount out torque. It's on limit but it's holds
Btw. Yes Sachs performance could make a clutch system spezial fab for cars like ours. But not to pay for me.
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Ksteen2 - 11-04-2014
Okei, I see.
How mutch nm do you have?
I want 350-400 bhp and about 5-600nm ☺️
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 11-05-2014
(11-04-2014, 05:25 PM)Ksteen2 Okei, I see.
How mutch nm do you have?
I want 350-400 bhp and about 5-600nm ☺️
I think Best result was about 440hp and 780nm
But with the old hx40 6blade comp.
Now it feels more but not dyno now. Hope soon we will see. :-)
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Kalti - 11-08-2014
Hey Hansebanger
i have no idea which word for "Hydrostössel" fits
are the original "Hydrostössel" in your engine?
are they work at this high turns?
btw this is my favorite Superturbo projekt!
nice greets from a guy who´s starts actualy his first little 605 projekt
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - DiseaselWeasel - 11-09-2014
hydro or hydraulic lifter
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - hansebanger77 - 11-10-2014
(11-08-2014, 09:06 PM)Kalti Hey Hansebanger
i have no idea which word for "Hydrostössel" fits
are the original "Hydrostössel" in your engine?
are they work at this high turns?
btw this is my favorite Superturbo projekt!
nice greets from a guy who´s starts actualy his first little 605 projekt
I have nothing touched at the head including the head gasket and all that stuff is still from the factury
I also still wander that this engine is still running bbecauseof the high rpms
mfg
Hans:-)
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Ksteen2 - 04-01-2015
Some news here? Or just running fine every day?
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Max - 04-01-2015
I found this Video from him a few Days ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FYttMIdUmA
Seems to run fine
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Tovikblacksmoke - 05-31-2015
Hello. is your car running still?
i just finished my car and stole your wastegate solution. but i have one question.
no the wastegate is running in free and its coms exhaust out off the wastegate at idling. did yours do that?
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Martyhew95 - 07-05-2015
Any updates on this build?
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - minim - 07-18-2015
(11-03-2011, 02:34 AM)hansebanger77 The loud klack was the injection variable thing in front of the pump. Timing was at 2 deg. Now i used the from 603 unclude vaacum pump and all is ok again
This got me curious as i'm swapping a om603 for a om606 with mechanical pump myself. Did you have to use the register wheel and vacuum pump from your 603 engine?
RE: my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel - Petar - 07-19-2015
No unless your one is broken.