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RE: Purple turbo 240D - 1911diesel - 09-07-2013 benzboys.com its up north of me, but its an all benz junk yard. i bet they will have what you are looking for. and they pull and ship! i bet they even have the color you need! RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 09-07-2013 (09-07-2013, 09:40 AM)1911diesel benzboys.com its up north of me, but its an all benz junk yard. i bet they will have what you are looking for. and they pull and ship! i bet they even have the color you need! Ill give them a call when im off work. Im also going to check my local CL to see if there are any parts car availble. so i found out today that models from 78 to 82 had their fenders glued on and the best method to remove them is to heat them up and take them off. going to give that a shot. again if anyone has a junker with a good fender, let me know! RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 09-09-2013 So after about two days, I finally got the fender off with some serious consequences. One seriously messed up fender thats used all these tools just to get it off. since I had no idea what I was doing, I messed everything up and bent everything tried to close the hood, Nope the hood is waaaaay off alignment I even scratched the door this is honestly the worst thing I have ever done I am seriously calling on you guys for help at this point. If you guys are ever in a junk yard please send me a fender (ill pay of course) RE: Purple turbo 240D - Greazzer - 09-09-2013 Chill out ... not that bad. Period. Invest a few bucks and pressure wash everything and get it surgically clean. Costs: About $10 bucks and some labor hours. Then, I would get a dolly or something similar and start straightening out the metal. Not a biggie and its just a few labor hours. Loosen up the 13mm hood bolts and straighten the hood. You have less than one day's worth of work to that point. Fenders: I went to the yard and no W123s. The sunny South has plenty of rust free donors. I am thinking our P-A-P wants around $35 bucks a fender. Shipping is a PITA, but doable. Even with 2 new fendors ... you got less than $100 bucks on your hands and you're fixing some screwed up fenders anyways. So, my advice is take a step back, take a breather, and start cleaning up the project. 75% of the battle is simply cleaning and sorting out the problems. Once you get to that phase, most of the other stuff falls into place. Good job with sticking thru the process and getting the fenders off. Most folks would have quit. . RE: Purple turbo 240D - 1911diesel - 09-09-2013 ^^^^^+1 to that ^^^^^ besides it only has to be straight enough to line the out side stuff up right. who cares what it looks like under the fender and hood... RE: Purple turbo 240D - Simpler=Better - 09-09-2013 Yeah it's not that bad at all, don't sweat it. A little time with some 2x4s, clamps, and a hammer will get it all straightened out easy. The weather right now is perfect for screwing around with bodywork-not too hot, not too cold. If you wanna hear about pissed, ask my brother how I reacted when I slipped up and drilled a hole through my truck's roof form the inside out one time. RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 09-09-2013 (09-09-2013, 02:38 PM)Greazzer Chill out ... not that bad. Period. You guys are always the voice of reason. It was a pain in the ass to get that thing off but i did it. Ill probably powerwash maybe wednesday and start straightening out the metal. I should have all the tools. All I need is some patience. I am in no rush to get the fender at this point. if You cant get it in the same color. no problem, I know someone who can repaint it for a good price. just got off the phone with a Mercedes part dealer. they want $330 shipped from California for a genuine Mercedes fender. A little pricey. some pros about that - 100% new -100% genuine Mercedes some cons, -100% expensive RE: Purple turbo 240D - Greazzer - 09-09-2013 If you can wait, I would find a pristine used one, same color. That is IMO the way to go. No painting and a lot cheaper. Even a color matched fender in pristin condition is only $75 smackers on FleaBay ... RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 09-09-2013 (09-09-2013, 04:09 PM)Greazzer If you can wait, I would find a pristine used one, same color. That is IMO the way to go. No painting and a lot cheaper. Even a color matched fender in pristin condition is only $75 smackers on FleaBay ... I havent had any luck finding fenders on eBay. and the only ones I did were $150 all with dings and rust on them. I am a little lost finding these things (09-09-2013, 03:32 PM)Simpler=Better Yeah it's not that bad at all, don't sweat it. A little time with some 2x4s, clamps, and a hammer will get it all straightened out easy. The weather right now is perfect for screwing around with bodywork-not too hot, not too cold. You are 100% right. The weather is great! Shit happens i guess. Nothing I can do about it, other then I learned from my mistake. Is there any type of reference i can find, maybe someone can take pictures of what a straight body looks like, so I can compare/ RE: Purple turbo 240D - JB3 - 09-10-2013 for those horribly glued on fenders, what I did on my 1980 240 was using an angle grinder, I cut a groove along the top of the rusted out fender all the way to the front. I was then able to remove the whole fender pretty easy, and after that slowly with a box cutter peeled off the glued on inner portion. Was still a PITA, but it did preserve the straightness of the inner fender, which was also seriously rotten. Like said above, all you need to do is bash this sucker out to a more or less straight line, then carefully rework the gap with the hood when you have a replacement fender. In the meantime, someone may want the one your took off for OEM patch material. Id hold onto it until you have a new fender, the fact that it isn't rusted means you can use pieces of it to possibly repair a rusted fender if thats all you can find. Also, all the movement may have opened a gap or crack in the sealant on that inner fender. Before you permanently attach a new fender, id probably closely inspect and wire wheel off any cracked areas and repaint and rubbercoat just in case. All this work would be a shame if the inner fender started to rot out on you RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 09-10-2013 (09-10-2013, 08:44 AM)JB3 for those horribly glued on fenders, what I did on my 1980 240 was using an angle grinder, I cut a groove along the top of the rusted out fender all the way to the front. I was then able to remove the whole fender pretty easy, and after that slowly with a box cutter peeled off the glued on inner portion. IM not sure why they put such a thick coating of glue. I now realized why the person who painted this fender before did such a lousy job. well they could have done a good job but being a pain to remove probably didnt help. I have a can of undercoat. I am going to remove any rust and whatever else is there. prime it and give it a coat of undercoating. in the meantime, ill save up for a decent fender. RE: Purple turbo 240D - sassparilla_kid - 09-10-2013 I think dieselgiant might have a tutorial on how to remove the glued on fenders pretty easily RE: Purple turbo 240D - 1911diesel - 09-10-2013 sounds like its a little too late for all that jazz...lol RE: Purple turbo 240D - JB3 - 09-10-2013 (09-10-2013, 01:20 PM)sassparilla_kid I think dieselgiant might have a tutorial on how to remove the glued on fenders pretty easily ill have to check that out, on mine, it wasn't just the glue, it was over an inch of vinyl undercoating sprayed inside the wheel well. Heat gun, wire wheel, none of that stuff worked that well on that thickness from that angle. Id be interested to see what dieselgiant's solution was, but I just finally cut the sucker off and started shaving the crap off with a box cutter. I remember feeling the sort of rage purplecomputer has shown here. EDIT- Naa, he just unbolts and removes a fender from an 83 no problems, unless there is another pictorial with a glued on fender. here is an example of what dieselgiant did not deal with. With all bolts out, this fender still had inches of vinyl holding it to the inner fender. up front it was almost 2 inches thick. That crap was tenacious- RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 09-10-2013 (09-10-2013, 02:24 PM)JB3(09-10-2013, 01:20 PM)sassparilla_kid I think dieselgiant might have a tutorial on how to remove the glued on fenders pretty easily that glue sucks. H8 it 4EVER RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 09-23-2013 So i spent the day just looking and figuring out how the hood was misaligned as it didnt make sense to me after an hour of careful trial and error I noticed that the "Arm" i guess you can call it, on the driver side looked different from the one on the passenger side. sure enough its all bent up, I removed it and took this picture. Im just going to replace it because I dont want to keep messing around trying to bend it back into place. I then removed the hood and started to straighten out the side, didnt get much done, need something big to grab onto the metal and help me straighten it out. I got bored so I sanded this area and covered it in undercoat with the hood off I covered it in a tarp until I can work on it again. RE: Purple turbo 240D - Simpler=Better - 09-23-2013 Home depot will cut 2x4s for like $0.50, get a couple cut for the fender to brace it. Clamp at the front and back, then hammer to your heart's content. RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 09-23-2013 (09-23-2013, 12:07 PM)Simpler=Better Home depot will cut 2x4s for like $0.50, get a couple cut for the fender to brace it. Clamp at the front and back, then hammer to your heart's content. that should work, brilliant! found this when i mis-spelled fenders on google http://www.summitracing.com/parts/shi-3525-31-1/overview/make/mercedes-benz RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 09-27-2013 I decided to sell this car $1000 or best offer. RE: Purple turbo 240D - Simpler=Better - 09-27-2013 (09-27-2013, 01:31 PM)Purplecomputer I decided to sell this car I call dibs. PM Sent I don't want this one gone RE: Purple turbo 240D - MFSuper90 - 09-27-2013 That's a bummer man, but glad simpler is jumpin on it! RE: Purple turbo 240D - JB3 - 11-07-2013 (06-21-2013, 02:59 PM)Purplecomputer holy shit! hey where did you buy the empi axles? I was just reading up on how you can remove the CV joint from the shaft so you can replace the boots without stretching them over the cans. I want to get a set. RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 11-07-2013 JB3, I bought them on amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001C9N9B0/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 RE: Purple turbo 240D - Simpler=Better - 11-07-2013 So you gonna keep her or roll the dice with my wild 'n crazy brother? RE: Purple turbo 240D - JB3 - 11-07-2013 (11-07-2013, 12:18 PM)Purplecomputer JB3, great! thanks RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 11-08-2013 (11-07-2013, 12:35 PM)Simpler=Better So you gonna keep her or roll the dice with my wild 'n crazy brother? Im not sure yet! IM SO CONFLICTED RE: Purple turbo 240D - Simpler=Better - 11-08-2013 Aiight, aiight. I'm not gonna push you either way, but if you do decide (on your own) to ditch the old girl give me a call RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 12-19-2013 FIXED IT! old on top of new you can see how bent the old one is. Thats what caused my problems with the hood closing THIS STUFF WOW! RE: Purple turbo 240D - Simpler=Better - 12-19-2013 Glad to see you got the fender straightened out Can heat get that stuff off? Heat, with a fire extinguisher nearby-we know how this car likes to pull fast ones on ya RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 12-19-2013 (12-19-2013, 02:43 PM)Simpler=Better Glad to see you got the fender straightened out Honestly, I tried with a blow torch to heat it and try to peel it off. I would have used a heat gun but my garage is a mess and I can't find anything. This car sucks RE: Purple turbo 240D - JB3 - 12-19-2013 you still have that old fender you pulled off? im looking for the bit that bolts to the rocker, from there like 7-10 inchs up. I need a patch panel RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 12-19-2013 (12-19-2013, 06:34 PM)JB3 you still have that old fender you pulled off? im looking for the bit that bolts to the rocker, from there like 7-10 inchs up. I need a patch panel I still have it. most of it is all dented and bent. Show me a picture of what exactly you need so I can get a better look. RE: Purple turbo 240D - Simpler=Better - 12-20-2013 Heat guns are for pansies. torches are for many men. Just make sure you post up a video of it when the insulation sets on fire RE: Purple turbo 240D - willbhere4u - 12-20-2013 after 1983 they stopped gluing the fenders on so get a later fender it will be in better shape and easier to put back on RE: Purple turbo 240D - JB3 - 12-20-2013 (12-19-2013, 07:48 PM)Purplecomputer(12-19-2013, 06:34 PM)JB3 you still have that old fender you pulled off? im looking for the bit that bolts to the rocker, from there like 7-10 inchs up. I need a patch panel I need from the bolt pattern up to the first body line crease to rebuild the wife's fender eventually. Preferably a few inches past the body line so I have weldable material. here is a pic of your fender and the part I want to scavenge from it- RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 01-10-2014 So some update guys. This car will now be my daily driver pretty soon. returning the lease due to some recent events. anyway, while i wait for greazzer to get me the fender I was thinking about using my racor filter again. I had ideas about replacing the stock one with the racor. this is the filter in question. will I be able to do the same hose hookup as the stock? it has two ins and two outs, just like the stock filter. the cool thin about the filter is, that it has a built in heater. RE: Purple turbo 240D - Simpler=Better - 01-10-2014 So long as the micron rating is the same or better you're golden. PS-I have the same coat. RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 01-10-2014 (01-10-2014, 01:11 PM)Simpler=Better So long as the micron rating is the same or better you're golden. Great, Ill get around to making a bracket. Dont really have the money for a replacement filter though. also, this jacket is the best. Keeps me warm and cozy. Just my legs get a lil cold. did a quick search, this filter seems to filter down to 30 microns. Any idea what the stock one does? RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 01-25-2014 So, I got a fender I realized the other I have no idea what Im doing. I think I fucked this car up more then I actually have fixed it. Im just gonna get it up and running and leave it alone forever RE: Purple turbo 240D - JB3 - 01-25-2014 (01-10-2014, 01:16 PM)Purplecomputer(01-10-2014, 01:11 PM)Simpler=Better So long as the micron rating is the same or better you're golden. Prepare yourself, im about to annoyingly drone on for this post - Racor generally does everything in 3 micron ratings. 2, 10, and 30. (unless its a big FBO or recirculation product or whatnot for fuel dispensers or ships, irrelevant here though) The 3 micron ratings are color and letter coded. 2 micron will usually have an "S" somewhere in the part number and have burgundy coloring. For example, 2020SM. 10 micron will usually have a T in the part number with blue coloring. 2020TM. 30 micron will usually have a P in the part number, and the coloring is usually red. 2020PM. What you have there LOOKS like an old Racor 400 series filter head, with a wix filter screwed onto it. However, does it say RACOR anywhere on the head itself? self priming heads are not especially rare. Could be something else. My Racor catalog is circa 2010, but you have 4 filter options if its a Racor head. (If you want 2micron) R45S, R60S, R90S, and R120S. The number is the flow rate, the letter is the micron. lower number usually means a smaller filter. Since its a wix filter though, my Racor catalog gives these numbers as cross reference for that part number, any of these should be able to replace your current filter and at least have the same threads, some will take the bottom clear bowl, some will be solid metal. The threads are 1-14 UNS. Fleet Guard- FS1287 FS19532 FS19551 Wix- 33231 33411 Luber Finer- LFF3345 LFF5766 LFF8038 LFF8063 LFF8957 Baldwin- BF1223 BF1223SP Donaldson- P550730 Fram- PS7716 PS8187 PS8486 (01-25-2014, 03:24 PM)Purplecomputer So, I got a fender what have you done recently that has been bad? RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 01-25-2014 Wow, thanks for the information JB3. When i bought it off eBay it came with a Racor filter, so I just assumed... I could be wrong though. I just feel as if though I have done more harm then good to the car. whenever I look at much nicer w123 on the web i feel so silly for trying all these mods and what not. RE: Purple turbo 240D - Greazzer - 01-25-2014 I just feel as if though I have done more harm then good to the car. whenever I look at much nicer w123 on the web i feel so silly for trying all these mods and what not. You need to take a deep breath. R&D is NOT simple and don't forget that car is 30+ years old. Babe Ruth struck out from time to time, and you have to crush a few avocados to make guacamole so learn from your boo boos ... Since you have been fixing things which were obviously broken or wore out, how in the world can you feel down and out ? Remember, about 99% of the population are too much of a bunch of wus's to even tackle any projects ... So, you're 1%-er. RE: Purple turbo 240D - larsalan - 01-25-2014 Also, if it gets too bad, you just show us what you can do to make a benzamino. RE: Purple turbo 240D - JB3 - 01-25-2014 (01-25-2014, 05:26 PM)Greazzer You need to take a deep breath. R&D is NOT simple and don't forget that car is 30+ years old. Babe Ruth struck out from time to time, and you have to crush a few avocados to make guacamole so learn from your boo boos ... Since you have been fixing things which were obviously broken or wore out, how in the world can you feel down and out ? Remember, about 99% of the population are too much of a bunch of wus's to even tackle any projects ... So, you're 1%-er. x2. you have a working 240D turbo. There are a handful of those out there, and YOU made it happen. Dont get cold feet after all that work. You just have a to slam a fender on there and a few other things. If anything, you've made yourself aware you dislike bodywork. There will always be a nicer car on the web. RE: Purple turbo 240D - Simpler=Better - 01-26-2014 Until you're old, retired, and have more money than you know what to do with your cars are always going to be rough. That's the way it is RE: Purple turbo 240D - willbhere4u - 01-27-2014 I had similar problems on my 240d when changing the fenders I just beat/hammered the inner fenders until they where close the only part I was careful with was the fender as its the only part that really shows. I also used washer between the fender and body to get the gaps just right. I just keept fitting the fender and seeing what needed work. then out came a short piece of 2x4 and sledge hammer after it was close I used washers for spacing there is usually a little pay in the bolts so I would line every thing up with 2 bolts one on the front and one on the back open and close the hood to see if i was close. also if I needed to bend the lip I used a pair of channel locks or vice grips to straighten it out. It took me a couple hours to get it in the neighborhood. Once I got it close then it was easy to get it perfect or at least as good as factory my 300sdl was a real bear because it was hit on the front. And i had to straighten out the fender structure and replace the radiator support RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 01-28-2014 Well in all honesty, I couldnt have done work to this car if it wasnt for you guys. Without your help and support and i would have gave up a long time ago. RE: Purple turbo 240D - Simpler=Better - 01-28-2014 (01-28-2014, 08:51 AM)Purplecomputer Well in all honesty, I couldnt have done work to this car if it wasnt for you guys. Without your help and support and i would have gave up a long time ago. That's why STD is here. Aaaaaaaaaand if you DO give up, one of us will swoop in and buy it at an extremely undervalued price RE: Purple turbo 240D - Purplecomputer - 01-30-2014 Put the fender on the car. Most of it lines up pretty well. Some heating and bending should fix any issues I have. This is where I was having the most trouble. Its cold, really cold, so the metal dosnt bend all that easy lines up really nicely with the door (didnt realize i was making an appearance) RE: Purple turbo 240D - Simpler=Better - 01-30-2014 Fender selfies are the best selfies. Slap some plastidip on there and you're good till it warms up |