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Found a true performance clutch - kamel - 01-13-2010
So after doing some research, the clutch for the getrag 4 speed turns out to be a 8.5" 10 spline by 1 1/8" unit, which just so happens to be the same as a mustang with a 2.3l (which also strangely enough have quite a following). I did some digging and came up with this:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RAM-98610
or those with the need for a racing clutch:
http://www.dudiakracingproducts.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=22441&sourceid=GPDRP
and those who are on a budget:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RAM-88610/?rtype=10
Im thinkin ill go with option #1.
RE: Found a true performance clutch - ForcedInduction - 01-13-2010
The Chevy S10 uses the same splines, don't know about the diameter.
You can always cut the pressure plate ring deeper than the clutch face is cut when the FW is resurfaced.
RE: Found a true performance clutch - CID Vicious - 01-15-2010
That 2.3l isn't the NA turd but the Turbo Coupe/Mustang SVO motor. Unlike the 5.0l that motor can put out about 5-600hp on stock internals, so that might be a very stout clutch indeed.
So the whole kit bolts up, or just the disc?
RE: Found a true performance clutch - winmutt - 01-15-2010
FWIW I have been VERY happy with the Gwagen clutch. Not so happy about the weight of the FW. I would recommend trying out a different pressure plate on a 240D, I believe that will do the job.
RE: Found a true performance clutch - Jdmills - 01-19-2010
(01-15-2010, 06:18 PM)winmutt FWIW I have been VERY happy with the Gwagen clutch. Not so happy about the weight of the FW. I would recommend trying out a different pressure plate on a 240D, I believe that will do the job.
Did the Gwagen Flywheel get rid of the driveline vibrations in your 4speed conversion?
RE: Found a true performance clutch - willbhere4u - 01-19-2010
How much dose it weigh compared to stock? The Gwagon flywheel I mean
RE: Found a true performance clutch - winmutt - 01-19-2010
(01-19-2010, 07:57 PM)JdmillsNever had those, my conversion parts were from a 300d. Trans from a 200d.(01-15-2010, 06:18 PM)winmutt FWIW I have been VERY happy with the Gwagen clutch. Not so happy about the weight of the FW. I would recommend trying out a different pressure plate on a 240D, I believe that will do the job.
Did the Gwagen Flywheel get rid of the driveline vibrations in your 4speed conversion?
The weight is the same as the 300d. I wouldnt mine finding a half way point between the 240d and 300d. Low end torque went way up and it was smoother overall but top end accel was diminished. It is easy as pie to get on ramps now though
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RE: Found a true performance clutch - garage - 10-04-2010
Kamel did you ever end up using any of these clutches?
Im gonna need to change out my clutch real soon, and would like to install somthing better than stock.
Winmutt, the Gwagen clutch bolts right up and its an improvement over stock?
RE: Found a true performance clutch - ForcedInduction - 10-05-2010
I'm still using the stock clutch after 5 years without a single problem.
RE: Found a true performance clutch - garage - 10-05-2010
(10-05-2010, 06:39 AM)ForcedInduction I'm still using the stock clutch after 5 years without a single problem.
Well, im not sure how long my 240D has had this clutch, but its definetly time for a new one soon. Its engaging later and later.
Is that 5 years of normal fwy/city driving, or is that 5 years of really beating on it?
I want to go with a "better" clutch because my car really takes alot of punishment from me.
RE: Found a true performance clutch - winmutt - 10-05-2010
There is a list of pressure plates and clamping pressures in the FSM. You could stick with stock clutch and get a higher clamping pressure plate.
RE: Found a true performance clutch - Syncro_G - 10-05-2010
I have what I think is a 300d flywheel. I'm pretty sure it takes the G-wagen clutch but it has a lighter ring than the G.
I'd be happy to trade for the heavy G flywheel. I can take some measurements later.
RE: Found a true performance clutch - garage - 10-05-2010
(10-05-2010, 10:48 AM)winmutt There is a list of pressure plates and clamping pressures in the FSM. You could stick with stock clutch and get a higher clamping pressure plate.
Thats a good idea too.
RE: Found a true performance clutch - ForcedInduction - 10-06-2010
(10-05-2010, 10:48 AM)winmutt You could stick with stock clutch and get a higher clamping pressure plate.
Or you could have a machine shop shave a hair off the plate mount surface.
RE: Found a true performance clutch - Rudolf_Diesel - 10-06-2010
(10-05-2010, 11:51 AM)Syncro_G I have what I think is a 300d flywheel. I'm pretty sure it takes the G-wagen clutch but it has a lighter ring than the G.
I'd be happy to trade for the heavy G flywheel. I can take some measurements later.
The G flywheel should be lighter than the 300D...It is physically the same except for the maching done to accomodate the larger flywheel/PP combo.
The 300D takes a 215mm combo v. 230mm for the G.
Garage - there is a place nearby you that builds custom clutches, IIRC they are in Colton I will have to ask my brother for the name.
You can also try try Clutchnet - they will build what ever disc you want and modify your stock 240D plate (new) to whatever clamping pressure you want. They are the people that will do my clutch work when I am ready for it.
RE: Found a true performance clutch - garage - 10-06-2010
(10-06-2010, 08:24 AM)Rudolf_Diesel(10-05-2010, 11:51 AM)Syncro_G I have what I think is a 300d flywheel. I'm pretty sure it takes the G-wagen clutch but it has a lighter ring than the G.
I'd be happy to trade for the heavy G flywheel. I can take some measurements later.
The G flywheel should be lighter than the 300D...It is physically the same except for the maching done to accomodate the larger flywheel/PP combo.
The 300D takes a 215mm combo v. 230mm for the G.
Garage - there is a place nearby you that builds custom clutches, IIRC they are in Colton I will have to ask my brother for the name.
You can also try try Clutchnet - they will build what ever disc you want and modify your stock 240D plate (new) to whatever clamping pressure you want. They are the people that will do my clutch work when I am ready for it.
Okay dude thanks!
If you find out the name let me know for sure, i would definetly be interested.
RE: Found a true performance clutch - Rudolf_Diesel - 10-09-2010
I was out at Irwindale yesterday, watching the drifitng competition, and I found the place I was telling you about...
Clutch Masters
267 E. Valley Blvd.
Rialto, CA 92376
909.877.6800
RE: Found a true performance clutch - hansebanger77 - 11-16-2010
(10-05-2010, 06:39 AM)ForcedInduction I'm still using the stock clutch after 5 years without a single problem.but not 650nm torque
Does anyone have this already installed couplings in a '92 300D?
who ice if it all fits together with the 5 speed? `my sachs clutch has 228mm these are all 9" and not 8.5 and the disc is not flat but curved ... the thrust bearing should naturally fit ..
If that was so easy.
RE: Found a true performance clutch - ForcedInduction - 11-17-2010
(11-16-2010, 07:46 AM)hansebanger77(10-05-2010, 06:39 AM)ForcedInduction I'm still using the stock clutch after 5 years without a single problem.but not 650nm torque
Yeah, I just put out 3x the torque it was designed to see.
RE: Found a true performance clutch - hansebanger77 - 11-17-2010
my new sachs apparently not.
all 3 Clutches on the top, has every 10 splice my has 26 can not fit then.
RE: Found a true performance clutch - lgreeley83 - 02-09-2013
Did anyone try the clutches at the top yet? I have a 4 spd. Looking at option for upgrade. Mine probably needs replacement. I plan to beat the crap out of it. I will be putting out a lot more power than stock.
RE: Found a true performance clutch - lgreeley83 - 02-09-2013
http://www.streetperformance.com/auto/1975-mercedes-benz-240d-base/clutch-kit/14785-399vc/
Spec brand?
RE: Found a true performance clutch - lgreeley83 - 02-09-2013
Reading looks like spec sux.
OK now I'm just beating my head on the wall. Spec vs ram clutches. Conflicting reviews on both. I hope someone can contribute a time tested upgraded original replacement. I will have a 38lb flywheel. Not sure what HP I will be running but have a moderate IP from Dieselmeken that I'm throwing in. 6mm.
Graciously awaiting input.