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Looking to put a 4 or 5 speed in my TD - NADC 300TD - 02-15-2011
Hi all, I'm new to the world of Benz power and loving it! I hate my auto
it shifts at the wrong time, no power. I am driving by Atlanta where there is a good amount of Mercedes in junk yards. What to I need to pull out of the donor car for mine. Also how do I tell what would fit mine.Thanks
RE: Looking to put a 4 or 5 speed in my TD - larsalan - 02-15-2011
someone may correct me or elaborate but, I recall everyone says the place to get a 4 speed is out of a 240.
Almost no such thing as a 5 speed and US 300d where all autos.
RE: Looking to put a 4 or 5 speed in my TD - Oil Burner - 02-15-2011
I put a post on here almost 6 months ago and this is what I was told not word for word so anyone correct me if i am wrong.
Foot pedal assembly out of a 240 manual
Fly wheel out of a 240 manual
I am not sure if it is linkage or a hydraluic clutch but you will need all of that out of a 240 I have been told everything is a bolt in swap. Search the tuning drivetrain section you will find lots of threads on this.
Hoping to do this conversion in the next few weeks.
I will post everything it took to accomplish this!
RE: Looking to put a 4 or 5 speed in my TD - NADC 300TD - 02-15-2011
Thanks for the info. If I put a 4 speed in it can I use the same drive shaft?
also what car had the 5spd in it ?
RE: Looking to put a 4 or 5 speed in my TD - larsalan - 02-15-2011
In September, 1982, all models received a mild facelift. The rectangular headlights, previously fitted only to the 280/280E, were standardized across the board, as was power steering. Since February, 1982, an optional 5-speed manual transmission was available in all models (except 300 TD).
W123 production ended in January, 1986 with 63 T-models rolling out. Most popular single models were the 240D (455,000 built), the 230E (442,000 built) and the 200D (378,000 built).
W123 introduced innovations including ABS (optional from August, 1980), a retractable steering column and an airbag for the driver (optional from 1982).
Available options included MB-Tex (Mercedes-Benz Texturized Punctured Vinyl) upholstery or velour or leather upholstery, interior wood trim, passenger side exterior mirror (standard on T models), 5-speed manual transmission (European market only), 4-speed automatic .....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123
maybe you can get one from a w124 or w126
also
http://mercedesforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36068
maybe see what all you can hunt first and then narrow down how to get it into your chassis
RE: Looking to put a 4 or 5 speed in my TD - NADC 300TD - 02-16-2011
I am pretty sure mine is a euro model. My dad bought it new in Denmark then shipped it over in 84 when he moved. Where can I look to be sure?
All the plates and manuals are in German so I can't look in the book.
Thanks
RE: Looking to put a 4 or 5 speed in my TD - JB3 - 02-16-2011
there are some threads here that detail the various swaps-
This one gives info on the 4-speed swap-
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/every-single-thing-need-convert-four-speed-t-851.html
RE: Looking to put a 4 or 5 speed in my TD - winmutt - 02-16-2011
When are you driving by? I am out of town this weekend but could easily run down next weekend to pullapart east and south and scout it out for you. Even the 4spds are pretty rare. The can be found on car-part.com easy and sometimes cheap enough. I think the whole set at pullapart is like $150, pedals and all. Pulling them from the 240d Is super easy. Nothing special needed other than standard tools, 1/2 socket set and allen socket set. Getting the starter off can get be a bear. You will need a 12 pointed socket for the flywheel bolts.
RE: Looking to put a 4 or 5 speed in my TD - MTUPower - 02-16-2011
I have a full 4 speed manual in my garage from a 300D- the only thing missing is the flywheel. I just had an offer for the transmission itself for $250 and I passed. The whole unit from shifter/tranny/driveshaft/clutch etc is ready for the 5 cylinder diesel... and I'm willing to listen to offers.
RE: Looking to put a 4 or 5 speed in my TD - NADC 300TD - 02-17-2011
(02-16-2011, 04:47 PM)winmutt When are you driving by? I am out of town this weekend but could easily run down next weekend to pullapart east and south and scout it out for you.I will by driving by the last weekend in February. I am driving from Nashville to Perry then up to Dallas, GA staying there for a night then back to Nashville.
Thanks
RE: Looking to put a 4 or 5 speed in my TD - winmutt - 02-17-2011
(02-17-2011, 10:41 AM)NADC 300TD I will by driving by the last weekend in February.Which would be the weekend after this one. I could probably run down sat morning and look. All of the pull a parts are on the otherside of the city from where you will be.
RE: Looking to put a 4 or 5 speed in my TD - NADC 300TD - 02-17-2011
(02-17-2011, 11:19 AM)winmutt Which would be the weekend after this one. I could probably run down sat morning and look. All of the pull a parts are on the otherside of the city from where you will be.I have some time that Sunday that I was going to use to drive around to all the Pull a Parts. If you do go and look it would be a big help to me and I'd owe you one.
Thanks
RE: Looking to put a 4 or 5 speed in my TD - winmutt - 02-17-2011
(02-17-2011, 11:27 AM)NADC 300TD(02-17-2011, 11:19 AM)winmutt Which would be the weekend after this one. I could probably run down sat morning and look. All of the pull a parts are on the otherside of the city from where you will be.I have some time that Sunday that I was going to use to drive around to all the Pull a Parts. If you do go and look it would be a big help to me and I'd owe you one.
Thanks
To got all three pull a parts and check them would be a full day. 2 hrs of driving + walking around. Looks like all you need is east and south :
Make Model Year Row Location Date On Yard
MERCEDES-BENZ 240-CLASS 1983 100
Atlanta East
12/01/2010
MERCEDES-BENZ 240 1979 22
Atlanta South
12/10/2010
MERCEDES-BENZ 240 1976 25
Atlanta South
12/22/2010
MERCEDES-BENZ 240-CLASS 1979 23
Atlanta South
12/10/2010
The dates are the date on the lot. I would say from the looks of it, it would probably mostly be a waste of time. Although you could atleast get the 240D auto cross member. You could luck out on euro 300d with a stick. Lots of those on the lot. I have a broken 4spd you can have if you want. I have the proper shifter linkage for $60 and I will throw in a variety of other parts for the conversion.
RE: Looking to put a 4 or 5 speed in my TD - NADC 300TD - 02-17-2011
(02-17-2011, 11:19 AM)winmutt I have a broken 4spd you can have if you want. I have the proper shifter linkage for $60 and I will throw in a variety of other parts for the conversion.
What is broken in the 4 spd? I appreciate the help.
RE: Looking to put a 4 or 5 speed in my TD - winmutt - 02-23-2011
I will not be available, gfil passed away. My broken 4 speed has hard parts inside broken. One of the gears atleast.