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e85 injection? - larsalan - 02-16-2011
What would you think about mixing e85 into water for a water injection system?
Like 1gal e85/ 10 gal water
RE: e85 injection? - yankneck696 - 02-16-2011
That happens with boats all the time here in Floriduh.... But seriously, don't quote me, but a 4:1 ratio of water to ethanol before precipitation out of the gas. So, you'd have to proportion water to alcohol a bit light to keep it in suspension. That may end up with too much gasoline for a CI engine, I think. But, then again, what the hell, give it a try if you want, just make sure to video it.
Ed
RE: e85 injection? - larsalan - 02-16-2011
Totally don't understand?
I am saying e85 might be a cheap source for ethyl alcohol. but it's not guaranteed 85% alcohol. might be less. And the gas is concern
I guess the majority of gas would float when mixed with water. While the majority of ethanol would be dissolved into the water. Just need to skim off some gas and find somewhere to use it.
RE: e85 injection? - larsalan - 02-16-2011
confirmed
"... but the gasoline-ethanol bonding is weak relative to water-ethanol bonding, so the gasoline will separate out and fl oat toward the surface."
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http://www.nrt.org/production/NRT/NRTWeb.nsf/AllAttachmentsByTitle/SA-1060ETOH-85-FinalRev00_2010_022610.pdf/$File/ETOH-85-Final_Rev00_2010_halfpt%20increase_022610.pdf?OpenElement
sounds like a plan
RE: e85 injection? - 300D50 - 02-16-2011
Skim off the gas, dry it, and throw it in the mower?
RE: e85 injection? - ForcedInduction - 02-17-2011
(02-16-2011, 05:27 PM)larsalan What would you think about mixing e85 into water for a water injection system?
Like 1gal e85/ 10 gal water
No good. Gasoline (oil) does not mix with water. Methanol is about $2.90/gal which makes it about equal $/btu as diesel.
RE: e85 injection? - larsalan - 02-17-2011
where would you buy a gallon of methanol?
RE: e85 injection? - ForcedInduction - 02-17-2011
Pretty much any racetrack. If your city has an industrial area there is usually a fuel/oil supply chain that sells many varieties of fuels.