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w108 om 617 280se 3.46dif - w108om617 - 11-14-2008
hello ihave an 617om amospheric 88hp i would like to get around 100hp what is the simple process to get it
i read a post about nozzles here we have cars from1997 whith injectors around 130 bars could i put them simply instead of the stocks and what can i doon the ip
whith not too much smoke tanks for help
Re: w108 om 617 280se 3.46dif - ForcedInduction - 11-15-2008
w108om617 i would like to get around 100hp what is the simple process to get it
Swap your engine for a turbo model.
Your engine's power is limited by the available air, not fuel, and it will not hold up to adding a turbo.
Re: w108 om 617 280se 3.46dif - w108om617 - 11-15-2008
hello thanks for your reply
here its not posible now to find this kind of engine all the benz cd/sd and td were send to your countries
here we still have 616 and 617 atmo and new generation 60x engine
its work good whith this old car (here new are shit) i can drive 160km/h easily
and the good cruise is 140km/h i just want to use performed injectors to get a better combustion winning 10hp
i know turbo is better i had one turbo gt2 on a renault 25td that i modify little
to get more hp have you anide about nozzles i can use[attachment=0]<!-- ia0 -->r25.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment]
Re: w108 om 617 280se 3.46dif - ForcedInduction - 11-15-2008
Nozzles do not increase power, they increase the amount of fuel injected. You would only get black smoke.
Re: w108 om 617 280se 3.46dif - w108om617 - 11-15-2008
ok thanks
Re: w108 om 617 280se 3.46dif - bgkast - 11-15-2008
You could fit a small turbo and limit boost to 6-7 psi. You would then need to increase fuel flow too. Also the engine will probably not last as long as a stock turbo engine.
Re: w108 om 617 280se 3.46dif - w108om617 - 11-15-2008
ok i understand ......its like put a collector escape with a tc but whithout correcting lda on ip also reducing pressure inside around 0.5bars correcting a little the ip to have an aproximative result
somes car here are runnin like that we call them low pressure turbo or flat turbo
Re: w108 om 617 280se 3.46dif - w108om617 - 11-15-2008
and what about injectors today i saw injectors comingfrom
td renault bosch 1998 they are 135 bars press and atomize better than stocks ones?
Re: w108 om 617 280se 3.46dif - cannonballSDL - 11-15-2008
[quote="w108om617"]i had one turbo gt2" quote]
so you went with the 280se over the GT2?
wait for it
closer
FAIL
just jokeing there sexy cars. my dad had one when i was younger
Re: w108 om 617 280se 3.46dif - w108om617 - 11-15-2008
sorry i did not understand
its a w108 modified whith a 617 atmo 88hp
4 gear torque 3.46
origine 280se rebuilt 300sd in1984 by a station mercedes
i bought it already transformed
i just keep out the ventilator from the water pomp to put 2electrical big fans also the radiator i put come from a caterpilar engine
i can send you pics on yourmail regards
Re: w108 om 617 280se 3.46dif - bgkast - 11-18-2008
If you were to add a low-boost turbo I would up the pop-pressure of the injectors to 135 BAR
Re: w108 om 617 280se 3.46dif - Simpler=Better - 11-24-2008
Making use of what power you have is going to be the best route. You said you have already installed electric fans to lower engine draw when the mechanical fans wasn't needed.
I would adjust your timing and balance the injectors, also you could add under body fairings to reduce air resistance.