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new cars are agg as fuck - stan - 04-28-2011
i'm dealing with stuff on my GTI and it is so different from what we deal with on our diesel benzes.
shitty part -
new key on the benz: buy a blank, have any locksmith or shop cut a copy of your existing one
new key on the GTI: buy a new fob, buy a new keyhead with blank blade. get the blade cut. code in the remote fob buttons (lock/unlock/panic/hatch). program the car immobilizer to accept the keyhead's rfid chip*
or pay the dealer $350 for everything.
awesome part-
more power on the benz: $1200+ for an upgraded IP, and then figuring out supporting mods and tweaking everything to work right without blowing the engine up.
more power on the GTI: buy bolt-on parts (intake, exhaust, intercooler) and new ecu code (apr stage 2), run 100 octane gas, get 270hp / 323ft-lb (from 200hp / 207ft-lb stock)
frustrating dealing with the key crap right now, but at least it will be super duper easy to add power later on!
*to add an rfid to the immobilizer, you need to code it into the system with a computer. you either have to pay the dealer to do it with their automated system, or find a way to extract the SKC so that you can code in the SKC, importer ID, date the SKC was retrieved (they mutate based on date), immobilizer ID, and vin.
RE: new cars are agg as fuck - dieselboy - 04-28-2011
Not to mention fwd fail.
RE: new cars are agg as fuck - Captain America - 04-28-2011
Not to mention this information is quite obvious of any new car haha. And my 38 year old SBC still makes more ponies
RE: new cars are agg as fuck - willbhere4u - 04-29-2011
what does agg mean?
RE: new cars are agg as fuck - dieselboy - 04-29-2011
I'd guess aggravating
RE: new cars are agg as fuck - willbhere4u - 04-29-2011
duh retarded question retracted!
RE: new cars are agg as fuck - stan - 05-02-2011
aggro
RE: new cars are agg as fuck - winmutt - 05-03-2011
(04-28-2011, 01:41 PM)stan *to add an rfid to the immobilizer, you need to code it into the system with a computer. you either have to pay the dealer to do it with their automated system, or find a way to extract the SKC so that you can code in the SKC, importer ID, date the SKC was retrieved (they mutate based on date), immobilizer ID, and vin.
I was under the impression you could code these with VAG COM?
I have been fighting P0400 PO411 and PO302 codes on the 00 Eurovan with the 2.8 12v AES VR6. Think I finally got it all sorted but man, VW really does not design their stuff to last like MB did. Maybe its the decades difference but really. For instance the plastic tubing used for the SAIS system is really cheap and clearly would become brittle over time. For $10 I replaced the $100 plastic crap with rubber hose and pvc elbows that will long outlast the OE crap. I have to say though, so far the car has been pretty easy to work on.
RE: new cars are agg as fuck - stan - 05-06-2011
yeah my vag-com is coming tomorrow. with the newer cars (immo-4) you need the immobilizer pin (SKC), but it was never shipped with the car and the dealers cant get it (they're all on geko now).
supposedly vag-commander can pull the SKC, so i'm going to be ordering one of those too. chinese clone version is ~40 bucks, so its worth a shot.
excited to hook up the vag-com tomorrow and see why i have a check engine light
RE: new cars are agg as fuck - JB3 - 05-06-2011
I most dislike the early generations of electronic upgrages, sometime after the old benz and before the GTI.
Remember the OHM resistance pill glued on the ignition key of early to mid 90's cadillac's? The one where the ignition read the resistance of the pill as an added safety feature, but, if the pill was dirty or corroded, the car wouldn't start, even though the key would turn? And the little pill just looked like some Caddy bling on the key, not the cause of the no start?
Unbelievable PITA to figure out what was wrong unless you knew about that feature.
RE: new cars are agg as fuck - yankneck696 - 05-07-2011
On the GM's you just measure the resistance of the key & cut the yellow sheathed wires & solder in the resistors to make the same value. At the salvage yard, I had a set of resistors on piercing leads to get the cars started. Manager was amazed. Sometimes it took up to an hour, as there was a time out feature after too many tries.
Ed
RE: new cars are agg as fuck - Captain America - 05-08-2011
(05-07-2011, 06:26 AM)yankneck696 On the GM's you just measure the resistance of the key & cut the yellow sheathed wires & solder in the resistors to make the same value. At the salvage yard, I had a set of resistors on piercing leads to get the cars started. Manager was amazed. Sometimes it took up to an hour, as there was a time out feature after too many tries.
Ed
+1
Done that a couple times myself
RE: new cars are agg as fuck - JB3 - 05-08-2011
(05-07-2011, 06:26 AM)yankneck696 On the GM's you just measure the resistance of the key & cut the yellow sheathed wires & solder in the resistors to make the same value. At the salvage yard, I had a set of resistors on piercing leads to get the cars started. Manager was amazed. Sometimes it took up to an hour, as there was a time out feature after too many tries.
Ed
awesome trick, you can imagine me screwing around following a diagnostic strategy for a no start, with absolutely no idea this feature existed while the boss snickered in the office!
Took me until I verified that every other part of the starting/charging system was good until I went to the computer and discovered that little gem of a security feature. After that, little wiring research first for me.