+- STD (https://www.superturbodiesel.com/std)
+-- Forum: Tuning (https://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/forumdisplay.php?fid=6)
+--- Forum: Engine (https://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/forumdisplay.php?fid=7)
+--- Thread: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) (/showthread.php?tid=2932)
Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - dieselmeken - 09-01-2011
Hi.
I have read a lot regarding adjusting the RSF governor on the m-series pump, and there seems to bee a lot of "forumknowhow" by people that never ever have done some proper adjusting on a governor. They seems to have got their knowledge through different kind of forums only. When a "forumexpert" tells another to do this and that, it seems in 90% of the cases that the guy that did the adjust suddenly doesnt have any idle, or that the engine not will go down in revs and so on.
I have made a small clip how I do this adjustment as a professional dieseltech. Yes, I call myself professional, I have the knowledge about this.
This is a clip that shows not only the basic settings that can be done in any good dieselworkshop, this shows what I do when my customer needs a pump that can perform at maximum and still work as it shall do on the engine, that is no afterrewing etc.
The pump in the clip is a 6 mm, 90cc @1500rpm. It shall bee mounted in a Volvo terraincar ( is that the right spelling?)If you have interest in this and 11 minutes over, take a look, If you still want to do as the "forumexperts", dont look. Write down your comment here or on Youtube or on both places
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z2qJx1yHoI
I will be happy to explain if there is any doubt about this, I dont think that none of you have seen this kind of clip before, this is "knowhow" and that is not so good to share according to Bosch.
[admin edited for spelling, grammar and just plain sanity
]
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - winmutt - 09-01-2011
There is no doubting your professionalism, you have all the cool gadgets to make it feasible and the knowledge to make it exceptional.
Having watched your video I see there are a few other things that need to be considered with building a custom bench.
Will removing the max stop on a unmodified pump make any additional gains?
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - smoke026 - 09-01-2011
Im not about to kiss ass but,
Its because of guys like (DIESELMEKEN) that I choose NOT to touch my pump. Ill leave Pump adjs to someone who knows with out a shadow of doubt what they are actually doing.
Thank you for ur video.
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - OM616 - 09-01-2011
(09-01-2011, 02:45 PM)smoke026 Ill leave Pump adjs to someone who knows with out a shadow of doubt what they are actually doing.
Smart Man
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - cleetus - 09-01-2011
thanks for sharing dieselmeken
most diesel engineers would never think to share info and the process used
cheers
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - E300TSC - 09-01-2011
Brilliant! Thanks for the video!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - DeliveryValve - 09-01-2011
Göran, thank you again and again for posting these videos and sharing your knowledge!
.
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - Captain America - 09-02-2011
Great video!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - dieselmeken - 09-02-2011
(09-01-2011, 02:00 PM)winmutt Will removing the max stop on a unmodified pump make any additional gains?
Yes, but not more than 1-1,5mm on a stock pump, maybee 5-8% more fuel BUT and this is important, there is a risk that the governorweight will go into the arm inside with damage as result. The stop is there for a reason.
To all you other, thanks for your positive feedback to my small informationvideo about RSF on M-seriepumps.
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - EDH_Performance - 09-02-2011
I adjusted my pump last night, after seein your video
This is on a Om606.910 with just a Eaton M90, that makes 0.8 bar in boost.
Stock Pes6 55m pump
Adjusted the Tourq capsule spring +0.8mm(Tried +1.5 and ended up with almost a runaway) The Full load screw out 4.5 turns ccw, bottomed the stop screw...The car pulls very good all the rpm range, with almost no black smoke
Did 8.8 sec 0-100km/h with 2 people and slipping in 1st gear!! VERY PLEASEDSo thanks for a great video!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - dieselmeken - 09-02-2011
(09-02-2011, 07:20 AM)EDH_Performance I adjusted my pump last night, after seein your video
This is on a Om606.910 with just a Eaton M90, that makes 0.8 bar in boost.
Stock Pes6 55m pump
Adjusted the Tourq capsule spring +0.8mm(Tried +1.5 and ended up with almost a runaway) The Full load screw out 4.5 turns ccw, bottomed the stop screw...The car pulls very good all the rpm range, with almost no black smoke
So thanks for a great video!
Glad you liked the clip, but do you know how much racktravel you have at full load?
Why 5,5mm? Why not 6 or 7,5?
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - EDH_Performance - 09-02-2011
I don`t know how much rack travel i have... It`s the stock pump i use, 5.5mm elements. It`s just for fun that i use the 55 pump, and now i now how much it can give
I see small amount of black smoke troughout the rpm range, so i think i`ve hit the nail with the adjustmentI will order some elements soon, but can you give me a Bosch number on some good elements? 7.5mm?
My shop here in Norway can get them for me
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - dieselmeken - 09-02-2011
(09-02-2011, 11:56 AM)EDH_Performance I don`t know how much rack travel i have... It`s the stock pump i use, 5.5mm elements. It`s just for fun that i use the 55 pump, and now i now how much it can give
I will order some elements soon, but can you give me a Bosch number on some good elements? 7.5mm?
My shop here in Norway can get them for me
If you did appreciate my video, maybee you can pm your adress so I can send you some "dieselmeken" sticker to put on your car?
Wait with the element, I have something going on...............
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - Captain America - 09-02-2011
Send me some stickers!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - smoke026 - 09-02-2011
Send me some pumps...8) keep the stickers...Wait..send the stickers too...8) SWEET!!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - E300TSC - 09-02-2011
I you send me some stickers, I will send them to your fans in the US!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - DeliveryValve - 09-02-2011
(09-02-2011, 12:23 PM)dieselmeken .....
Wait with the element, I have something going on...............
The suspense is going to be killer! Are you working on something on the MW flavor also?
.
(09-02-2011, 01:40 PM)E300TSC I you send me some stickers, I will send them to your fans in the US!
I'll take some!
.
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - dieselmeken - 09-03-2011
(09-02-2011, 02:55 PM)DeliveryValveNo, nothing for MW, just for M-pump.(09-02-2011, 12:23 PM)dieselmeken .....
Wait with the element, I have something going on...............
The suspense is going to be killer! Are you working on something on the MW flavor also?
.
(09-02-2011, 01:40 PM)E300TSC I you send me some stickers, I will send them to your fans in the US!
I'll take some!
.
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - mike-81-240d - 09-03-2011
I like stickers... I'm actually quite the sticker whore...
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - HoleshotHolset - 09-04-2011
(09-02-2011, 12:23 PM)dieselmeken Wait with the element, I have something going on...............
Ahh - perhaps this is the reason you did not respond to my last email almost two weeks ago.
I have an M-pump that is just itching for new elements and a full rebuild, tuning session on the pump stand. I would like enough fuel to support 500hp on an OM606.
Cheers,
Matt
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - mantahead - 09-04-2011
very nice of Dieselmeken to share this video with us
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - ritvarsx - 09-05-2011
Thanks Dieselmeken!!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - HoleshotHolset - 09-05-2011
We really owe it to Göran/Dieselmeken since he is willing to share information like this and provide it via video.
Honestly, I can't think of any other shops or individuals who have shared anything close to this when it comes to injection pumps. All too often, the shops/individuals are quite tight lipped when it comes to injection pump adjustment and tuning.
I know we're trying to find a shop in the USA to do element swaps and pump stand tuning, but I believe this man really deserves some of our business and is very well qualified to complete the job.
Beers,
Matt
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - dieselmeken - 09-05-2011
Thanks Matt for that post.
STICKERS This is my logo.
The sticker is actually a vinyl, I have it in Silver & Black
The white on the picture will bee the colour of your car
Anyone? Free of charge
E300TSC & HoleshotHolset has promised to distribute them as soon as the arrive.
![[Image: dd201174826PM201b.jpg]](http://forumbilder.se/images/dd201174826PM201b.jpg)
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - Captain America - 09-07-2011
I'll run it!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - jonbobshinigin - 09-10-2011
This is what I have been talking about!! We need to get this guy in contact with someone stateside that can reproduce his work (assuming dieselmeken is okay with this). I would be more than willing to send some money your way Meken!
PS - Did anyone see his other Youtube video with a stock 603.960 with 7mm Pump? It was ridiculous!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - dieselmeken - 09-11-2011
(09-10-2011, 01:38 PM)jonbobshinigin PS - Did anyone see his other Youtube video with a stock 603.960 with 7mm Pump? It was ridiculous!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioywZRp6KDM
Yes, this is my "testcar", nothing that I am proud over, but the engine works OK. The only thing that is done with this one is a bigger pump, nothing else.
It runs smooth on idle, works ok But the chassie is ready for the junkyard.
For the moment std turbo, just 0,9 bar of boost.
The pump gives just 90cc@1000 rpm in this issue.
In a couple of months its going to go thru some minor modifications
Sorry to say, but I drive 2006 BMW 330 diesel private. Hope you dont judge me for that.
On the second picture you can see my miniature schnauzer, he is 11 years old and you have one (1)) guess on his name.................Diezel of course!
![[Image: 82413-860605.jpg]](http://www1.garaget.org/archive/12/11405/82413/82413-860605.jpg)
![[Image: 82413-860608.jpg]](http://www1.garaget.org/archive/12/11405/82413/82413-860608.jpg)
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - jonbobshinigin - 09-11-2011
Since you are not proud of it, how about you send it to me here in the states? I'll be very proud of a pump putting out 90cc!
Do you have external adjustments on your pumps? Is it good to have in your opinion?
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - randomdude - 09-14-2011
very nice chap!!! thanks a million. i'd like to have a sticker please! one of each color?
is it the general concensus that a M or MW pump is better modded/for modding???
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - mike-81-240d - 09-15-2011
I'm in on the sticker.
And that's a beautiful E92 BMW!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - tomnik - 09-15-2011
pumps is what you need, stickers only do not increase performance.
Tom
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - dieselmeken - 09-15-2011
(09-15-2011, 02:36 AM)tomnik pumps is what you need, stickers only do not increase performance.
Tom
My stickers guarantee at least 2%
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - jonbobshinigin - 09-15-2011
It must be different in Europe cause here in the states racing stickers are 1-2hp EACH here and increase exponentially. That and spoilers, and let's not forget primer paint...that combo will give any river about 300hp itself. Unfortunately all of this only is applicable stateside, sorry.
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - tomnik - 09-15-2011
(09-15-2011, 03:12 AM)jonbobshinigin It must be different in Europe cause here in the states racing stickers are 1-2hp EACH here and increase exponentially. That and spoilers, and let's not forget primer paint...that combo will give any river about 300hp itself. Unfortunately all of this only is applicable stateside, sorry.
Oh, didn't know this. Now it is clear why my US import 300SD is so slow as those things only work stateside.
Can you imagine that our tuning kids even "clean" their cars?
Old world on the dark side...
Tom
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - jonbobshinigin - 09-15-2011
See guys, this is why I need a pump in the wagon...I'm gonna stomp these cars left and right. I've done my due diligence; HX35, Lorinser Bumper to put and intercooler behind, and I'm in contact with a transmission guy. Just waiting on elements and a place to tune here (or something reasonable in cost from DieselMeken!)
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - mike-81-240d - 09-27-2011
(09-05-2011, 12:54 PM)dieselmeken Thanks Matt for that post.
STICKERS This is my logo.
The sticker is actually a vinyl, I have it in Silver & Black
The white on the picture will bee the colour of your car
Anyone? Free of charge
E300TSC & HoleshotHolset has promised to distribute them as soon as the arrive.
How are these coming along?
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - dieselmeken - 09-27-2011
(09-27-2011, 12:18 AM)mike-81-240d(09-05-2011, 12:54 PM)dieselmeken Thanks Matt for that post.
STICKERS This is my logo.
The sticker is actually a vinyl, I have it in Silver & Black
The white on the picture will bee the colour of your car
Anyone? Free of charge
E300TSC & HoleshotHolset has promised to distribute them as soon as the arrive.
How are these coming along?
I have posted them to E300TSC.
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - iheartboost - 09-27-2011
dieselmeken is awesome!! i would love one of those vinyls!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - E300TSC - 09-27-2011
Once I get them, I'll ask for PM's for distribution info.
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - iheartboost - 09-27-2011
thanks e300!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - George3soccer - 09-28-2011
perfectly
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - E300TSC - 10-18-2011
OK, folks, I have the stickers! They are black and a dark, charcoal silver. I will now take PM's for them with your name and mailing info. Only one each for now. When all the orders are in, I may open it back up for extras if they're available.
Let the PM's begin!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - dieselmeken - 10-19-2011
And up with a small picture on your dieselmeken tuned car!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - jonbobshinigin - 10-19-2011
Now we just need a price on a pump!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - E300TSC - 10-19-2011
Guys, don't forget to tell me which color sticker you want: Black or Silver.
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - dieselmeken - 10-19-2011
(10-19-2011, 12:25 AM)jonbobshinigin Now we just need a price on a pump!Wait 3-4 weeks.
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - iheartboost - 10-19-2011
so excited!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - Captain America - 10-19-2011
PM Sent!
RE: Bosch RSF Governor adjustment (filmclip) - George3soccer - 10-20-2011
Can not wait.