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OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - diesel2fast4u - 09-09-2011 Hi, does anyone know what manual flywheel will bolt to the crank? Thanks, Raf RE: OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - olefejer - 09-09-2011 (09-09-2011, 11:54 AM)diesel2fast4u Hi, does anyone know what manual flywheel will bolt to the crank? How do you get the motor to run ? Bosch aftermarked controller, As i almost shure the engine wont run if the transmission controller dont get the rigth signal from gearbox RE: OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - diesel2fast4u - 09-09-2011 (09-09-2011, 02:11 PM)olefejer(09-09-2011, 11:54 AM)diesel2fast4u Hi, does anyone know what manual flywheel will bolt to the crank? www.adaptronic.nl or www.simtek.co.uk , I am not using the bosch EDC I am using this engine in a boat, bought one today for 2500 euro complete. It's going to be twin turbo water to air intercooled. Went for the CDI and not the 606. Went for the V6 and not the inline because the piezo injectors from the V6 deliver more fuel standard then the AMG ones for the inline. But I need a flywheel. In the coming months I will post here if anyone interested RE: OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - olefejer - 09-10-2011 (09-09-2011, 02:11 PM)olefejerIt for shure Sounds interesting.(09-09-2011, 11:54 AM)diesel2fast4u Please post any news Sorry i dont know if the flywheel from OM603 / OM606 fits this engine RE: OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - Boatbuilder - 09-12-2011 [/color][/i][qu[i][color=#FF1493]ote='diesel2fast4u' pid='33713' dateline='1315604655'] (09-09-2011, 02:11 PM)olefejer(09-09-2011, 11:54 AM)diesel2fast4u Hi, does anyone know what manual flywheel will bolt to the crank? www.adaptronic.nl or www.simtek.co.uk , I am not using the bosch EDC I am using this engine in a boat, bought one today for 2500 euro complete. It's going to be twin turbo water to air intercooled. Went for the CDI and not the 606. Went for the V6 and not the inline because the piezo injectors from the V6 deliver more fuel standard then the AMG ones for the inline. But I need a flywheel. In the coming months I will post here if anyone interested [/quote] RE: OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - GeertDB - 09-12-2011 (09-09-2011, 11:54 AM)diesel2fast4u Hi, does anyone know what manual flywheel will bolt to the crank? They use these engines also in Sprinter vans ( 318 or 319 CDI ) with manual 6 gearbox. So I guess they use a regular mass flywheel there. RE: OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - diesel2fast4u - 09-12-2011 yes, but I was kind of hoping that an older scrap yard flywheel from a 4 or 5 cilinder would do the job... RE: OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - winmutt - 09-14-2011 I would be using an om342 for a boat personally. Power out put might not be the same but one of them starts underwater RE: OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - Boatbuilder - 09-14-2011 I have marinised 320 CDI in line and when used in a boat you need an engine coupler to either a gearbox/shaft or a sterndrive and therefore you need to manufacture a flywheel with an adapterplate for the engine coupler. You also need a bellhousing. The ringear for the starter motor sits on a plate attached to the crank and it is a good idea to keep this and build the flwheel from there. OM 611 ,612 are differnet from the OM 613 and your engine have probably not compatible bolt pattern, so start making your own flyheel. Good luck. RE: OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - diesel2fast4u - 09-14-2011 (09-14-2011, 02:00 PM)Boatbuilder I have marinised 320 CDI in line and when used in a boat you need an engine coupler to either a gearbox/shaft or a sterndrive and therefore you need to manufacture a flywheel with an adapterplate for the engine coupler. You also need a bellhousing. The ringear for the starter motor sits on a plate attached to the crank and it is a good idea to keep this and build the flwheel from there. OM 611 ,612 are differnet from the OM 613 and your engine have probably not compatible bolt pattern, so start making your own flyheel. Good luck.Interesting. Did you leave the engine in car config or did you make an exhaust manifold? I wanted to use also first an inline, but to make power you need AMG injectors and they are big $$ The piezo's in the V6 should be up to the job and the V6 design makes in easier to put the intercooler in the V and use 2 smaller VNT turbo's. Found a guy who will be doing the programmming. I pick up the engine next week and the build will start finally RE: OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - Boatbuilder - 09-19-2011 (09-14-2011, 04:05 PM)diesel2fast4u(09-14-2011, 02:00 PM)Boatbuilder I have marinised 320 CDI in line and when used in a boat you need an engine coupler to either a gearbox/shaft or a sterndrive and therefore you need to manufacture a flywheel with an adapterplate for the engine coupler. You also need a bellhousing. The ringear for the starter motor sits on a plate attached to the crank and it is a good idea to keep this and build the flwheel from there. OM 611 ,612 are differnet from the OM 613 and your engine have probably not compatible bolt pattern, so start making your own flyheel. Good luck.Interesting. Did you leave the engine in car config or did you make an exhaust manifold? I have made a seawatercooled exh. manifold in AISI 316, seawatercooled intercooler,oil cooler , power steering cooler,wet exh.pipe after turbo and engine runs on freshwater. You need all this in a boat. When running the boat the engine runs always uphill so taking out too much power will only increase your exh.temp to a dangerous level. My inline engine give 225 Hp and 500 Nm.When you say programming, do you mean making the software for an aftermarket ECU ? RE: OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - karelwisse - 10-26-2011 Hello colleques We did built OM642 in boat as well. We made our own bellhousing suitable on existing transom of Mercruiser, we also made a extra flywheel (proper balanced) on existing thin flywheel with rpm pick-up and starter ring. Made use of a Centa flexible coupling (http://centa.info/data/products/82/int/cf-rv-01-06.pdf) with spline bush directly fitting on input shaft Mercruiser. For inlet air cooling we ordered a cooling at Froozen boost and we were cooling engine and air all with fresh water and oversized heat exchanger. At this moment only one problem and that is the ECU. We are using original Bosch. Who has got the right file? We were still using the original double walled exhaust manifolds with insulation and original turbo. engine must be able to do 265 hp and 600Nm torque in this setup. may be we can learn from each other. Regards Karel RE: OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - Boatbuilder - 10-26-2011 (10-26-2011, 12:36 PM)karelwisse Hello colleques Hello, Looks like we are more people using the original ECU. Are you using the original key, steering lock, ignition lock ? I had to use that in order to get the ECU to open and engine runs well now. (Theftproof ) I will work with it during the next months because I am lacking the signal from the VSS and therefore It happens that engine runs in limp mode. (max 3000 rpm ) I have just purchased the factory diagnostic tool, Mb Star C3, (China copy ) which works great. Do you have a similar tool ? Have you registered fault code ? We can talk on Skype if you like.! RE: OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - karelwisse - 10-27-2011 Hello, Looks like we are more people using the original ECU. Are you using the original key, steering lock, ignition lock ? I had to use that in order to get the ECU to open and engine runs well now. (Theftproof ) I will work with it during the next months because I am lacking the signal from the VSS and therefore It happens that engine runs in limp mode. (max 3000 rpm ) I have just purchased the factory diagnostic tool, Mb Star C3, (China copy ) which works great. Do you have a similar tool ? Have you registered fault code ? We can talk on Skype if you like.! [/quote] Hello, We work with Chrysler ecu and original key. Problem is, we still do not have full power. reason for Chrysler ecu was availability of diagrams and pin out of connectors. There was not any help from MB. Engine is running in limb mode and we are working on ecu to gain power. Do you know if somebody has got full power with original ecu? I have no experiance with MB star. we only read codes and can record life data. Ecu run very riliable (more than 150 hours) Of course we have fault codes like missing body control module, transmission, O2 sensor, DPF fault. What is your power? What faults do you have and how can you solve this. Where do you live and what is your time zone? Regards Karel RE: OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - Boatbuilder - 10-27-2011 (10-27-2011, 05:59 AM)karelwisse Hello, Hello, We work with Chrysler ecu and original key. Problem is, we still do not have full power. reason for Chrysler ecu was availability of diagrams and pin out of connectors. There was not any help from MB. Engine is running in limb mode and we are working on ecu to gain power. Do you know if somebody has got full power with original ecu? I have no experiance with MB star. we only read codes and can record life data. Ecu run very riliable (more than 150 hours) Of course we have fault codes like missing body control module, transmission, O2 sensor, DPF fault. What is your power? What faults do you have and how can you solve this. Where do you live and what is your time zone? Regards Karel [/quote] Hi, I run with original mapping so far. Due to lack of VSS I am almost certain that is the reason ECU goes into limp mode. I am working on finding a way to simulate that signals onto the Canbus. kind rgds Anders - Norway RE: OM642 V6 320CDI need flywheel - karelwisse - 10-27-2011 (10-27-2011, 06:48 AM)Boatbuilder(10-27-2011, 05:59 AM)karelwisse Hello, Hi, I run with original mapping so far. Due to lack of VSS I am almost certain that is the reason ECU goes into limp mode. I am working on finding a way to simulate that signals onto the Canbus. kind rgds Anders - Norway [/quote] Hello, What is VSS? Vihicle speed signal? reed out learns that speed is 3 km/hr I think that there are much more reasons for limb mode, like automatic gearbox. Because automatic gearbox is not strong enough for full torque, in some gears power is limited. No gearbox signal means limited power! etc Regards Karel the Neterland wissek@gmail.com |