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722.6 vs 606.962 question. - w210tdt - 11-12-2011
hei guys,a drivetrain question for you..i have a 97mod w210,230 petrol car with 722.6 transmission.and am planning to put a 606.962 in it.will the 606 fit bolt on to this transmission and run proberly with the original controller an electronics?i have the wiring diagram for the 722.6 and i cant see any connection between the engine and transmission controller,such as engine rpm signal etc..
RE: 722.6 vs 606.962 question. - aaa - 11-12-2011
I'm sure it simply communicates over CAN, so the wiring diagram is not going to tell you want signals it responds to, just that the CAN bus goes into it.
RE: 722.6 vs 606.962 question. - w210tdt - 11-12-2011
ok,thanks!so this might not be a good idea after all..
RE: 722.6 vs 606.962 question. - whipplem104 - 11-12-2011
If you put the IDI module for a 722.6 equipped car with the engine it should work. Your big problem is going to be the tcu and transmission are not set up to handle the significant torque of the 606.
It will work but may start having issues after a while. If you put the tcu and rear gears and transmission with the motor it would be as factory. The tcu receives engine and traction data from the CAN bus.
RE: 722.6 vs 606.962 question. - w210tdt - 11-12-2011
(11-12-2011, 12:12 PM)whipplem104 If you put the IDI module for a 722.6 equipped car with the engine it should work. Your big problem is going to be the tcu and transmission are not set up to handle the significant torque of the 606.
It will work but may start having issues after a while. If you put the tcu and rear gears and transmission with the motor it would be as factory. The tcu receives engine and traction data from the CAN bus.
ok,thanks for the info!the engine has a 603 pump so its got no electronics.so my plan is to use the transmission as it is and dont remove any of the electronics and wiring in the car.
RE: 722.6 vs 606.962 question. - whipplem104 - 11-12-2011
That will not work. The transmission control unit requires engine torque data for calculating shifts.
If you want to run a mechanical pump and the 722.6 then the PCS standalone is the only option.
RE: 722.6 vs 606.962 question. - w210tdt - 11-12-2011
ok,thank u!one more question only..do you know if the pcs controller is adjusted and ready to use if i buy it for the 722.6,or do i have to do the tuning myself?
RE: 722.6 vs 606.962 question. - whipplem104 - 11-12-2011
It requires to be set up to your vehicle info. Like tps, shifter, vehicle speed, and engine rpm.
From there you have to set some shift points. Simple tables for mph and throttle position. This can be tailored to your driving wants. The starter calibrations have good pressure scales. You will only have to mess with those if you want. You can download the tuning software from PCSs website and play with it without buying the system. The setup wizard and the calibration windows are all you would have to use. The transmission setup is already set up for you.
RE: 722.6 vs 606.962 question. - w210tdt - 11-13-2011
thanks for your help!