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H&R Sport Springs W126 - serverman777 - 12-26-2011
I really wants these
http://www.ilovebodykits.com/product/74749/H_R_Sport_Springs_For_Mercedes_Benz_SEL_1981_1991_29559_.html
But it says "Chasis: W126 6 cyl, V8, not diesel" which Im having a real hard time understanding. I got a 500 SEL parts car that I know for a fact they are the same springs all the way around. Unless Im dreaming that statement of not fitting a diesel is false. Anybody have any insight? Anybody used these?
RE: H&R Sport Springs W126 - iheartboost - 12-26-2011
im 99% sure they are the same springs but they havent tested it on a diesel model so they dont say it fits. the only other thing i can think of is perhaps the diesel motor in the front being heavier. but if its just a 617 i doubt itll be heavier than a v8
RE: H&R Sport Springs W126 - 300SD_KY - 01-07-2012
why not see if a local shop will install them and see what happens.
if they work, they work & report back.
i'd be interested to know ... H&R also makes a Touring Cup Kit.
RE: H&R Sport Springs W126 - serverman777 - 01-07-2012
What part of KY do you live in 300sd_KY?
RE: H&R Sport Springs W126 - garage - 01-08-2012
I would bet they fit perfect.
Its just the weight of the cast iron block they're unsure about, just hasnt been tested on the diesel model.
I would go for it.
RE: H&R Sport Springs W126 - 300SD_KY - 01-08-2012
(01-07-2012, 08:07 PM)serverman777 What part of KY do you live in 300sd_KY?
40206 Louisville
How about you?
RE: H&R Sport Springs W126 - serverman777 - 01-08-2012
Bloomington IN. About 2.5 hours north of louisville.
RE: H&R Sport Springs W126 - larsalan - 01-08-2012
The way you drive maybe. I get there in 2
RE: H&R Sport Springs W126 - serverman777 - 01-08-2012
Its that w126 for you
Give me 20 gallons of diesel and 3 quarts of 10w-40 and I be down there in less than 2 hours.
RE: H&R Sport Springs W126 - 300SD_KY - 01-12-2012
need Tech to weigh in here ...
what: I purchased a set of H&R sport springs (product code 29559) ... already installed front & rear sets of Bilsteins HDs.
Also purchased the spring shims in 3 sizes (small, medium and large).
Question: can i reliably use these W126 springs for my W116 vehicle that weighs 145 kg (318 lbs) more than what the W126 springs are advertised (built) for?
Yes? No? Issues?
... background:
... ... the W126 V8 long wheel base Benz weighs in at 1,670 kg (3,682 lb).
... ... ... my W116 turbo diesel benz weighs in at 1,815 kg (4,000 lb)
yes, i've contacted the spring manufacturer ... they say the W126 springs won't work with W116s ...
RE: H&R Sport Springs W126 - Priddin - 02-21-2012
Kentucky huh, i will have keep my eyes open to see if i can find you. Im in the fairdale area
(01-12-2012, 03:32 PM)300SD_KY need Tech to weigh in here ...
what: I purchased a set of H&R sport springs (product code 29559) ... already installed front & rear sets of Bilsteins HDs.
Also purchased the spring shims in 3 sizes (small, medium and large).
Question: can i reliably use these W126 springs for my W116 vehicle that weighs 145 kg (318 lbs) more than what the W126 springs are advertised (built) for?
Yes? No? Issues?
... background:
... ... the W126 V8 long wheel base Benz weighs in at 1,670 kg (3,682 lb).
... ... ... my W116 turbo diesel benz weighs in at 1,815 kg (4,000 lb)
yes, i've contacted the spring manufacturer ... they say the W126 springs won't work with W116s ...
RE: H&R Sport Springs W126 - SpecialDelivery - 11-21-2012
I've been posting on another site about this ... rather than a link...here's the latest...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Reiner
From my 1986 W126 supplementary manual:
Front springs:
126.035 <(420SEL - 3604 lbs OR 1635 kg) & 126.125 <(300SDL - 3649 lbs OR 1655 kg) - 126 321 17 04 <(same p# as the 300SD - 3625 lbs OR 1644 kg, so the spring for a 420SEL should work just fine.)
126.039 <(560SEL - 4090 lbs OR 1859kg ) & 126.045 <(560SEC - 3880 lbs OR 1759 kg) - 126 321 18 04 <(heavier car, by 200 lbs...so a heavier spring?)
Rear springs:v
126.035 <(420SEL) & 126.125 <(300SDL) - 116 324 08 04 or 116 324 11 04
126.039 <(560SEL) & 126.045 - 115 324 27 04 or 123 324 06 04
Note...I did call H&R they put me thru to a tech, he said the kit we're talking about has been around for 20+ years...he didn't know why they weren't "approved" for the diesels...said they either never tested them on the diesels or they DID and there was some other reason like because of the weight difference, they might not have gotten as much lowering as specified and therefor weren't made an official product avail for the diesel powered w126's. He did say that if there are people out there who have done it and it works so be it.
So...looking up an 1985 SEL on hrspring dot com
Applications. 1985 Mercedes-Benz SEL.
Find Other Applications
Suspension
Stage Chassis /
Drivetrain Notes Approx. Front
Lowering Approx. Rear
Lowering Part Number Sug. Retail
Photo Sport Spring W126 6 cyl, V8, not diesel w/o self-leveling 1.4 1.4 29559 $ 429.00 Kit Sport Spring W126 6 cyl, V8, not diesel w/ self-leveling 1.4 1.2 52759 $ 429.00 Kit Touring Cup Kit W126 6 cyl, V8, not diesel w/o self-leveling 1.4 1.4 31559T-1 $ 995.00 Kit
So it's CONCIEVEABLE - altho NOT DEFINITE that you MIGHT be able to use these springs / shocks in a 300SD, the non-self leveling of course.
And that the pricing we get here on PP is good
What a gamble to take....
Anyone done it?
Whats best solution? Bilstiens and Lesjofers?