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California smog laws - sassparilla_kid - 01-31-2012
Okay I have thought about this for a while and can't seem to find any answers so I thought I would ask all the knowledgable folks here. I have an '84 Ford Ranger sitting in my back yard, and I also have a spare '79 w123 240D with low miles (body beat to shit), and I was wondering what, if any legal issues there would be if I swapped the mercedes engine into the ford. I know diesels dont have to be smogged but are there laws that say you cant swap older diesel engines into newer vehicles? I think it would be pretty awesome to have a small diesel pickup
Thanks y'all!!
RE: California smog laws - yankneck696 - 01-31-2012
I believe that you must swap in a like or newer year engine, till it's 25 years old. Go to your DMV & get their rules.
Ed
RE: California smog laws - Captain America - 01-31-2012
I second what yankneck said
RE: California smog laws - serverman777 - 01-31-2012
Didn't they make disel rangers back in the day?
RE: California smog laws - sassparilla_kid - 01-31-2012
Okay I know someone who works at DMV, unfortunately she is very reclusive so its hard getting ahold of her, but at least I know where she lives lol
RE: California smog laws - JB3 - 01-31-2012
84 you should be good as far as federal, plus like said above, rangers came with a mazda 4cyl diesel back in the day as a option. Think that year range
Check the CA dmv website. Im doing the same type of thing, and ill be free and clear with my 89 van in a little less than a year. Then it only needs safety inspections, and no longer has emissions, then I can put whatever the hell I want in the van, as long as it meets safety. Could be a steam boiler, and they would pass it
How long does CA do emissions, is there a cutoff point? or do they check any vehicle for emissions regardless of year based on the model requirements of the build year?
You need to go creep out this woman who works at DMV. Is she cute? or shaped like a troll like most of those angry DMV people. If shes not cute, then all you have to do is bring her some fresh bones so she can grind them to make bread.
RE: California smog laws - aaa - 01-31-2012
The Cali cutoff for gassers is 1975. Not done by age. It's not supposed to be allowed, but if you somehow get a diesel title you can skip the smog inspections since they don't make you do it on a "diesel" that old.
RE: California smog laws - DeliveryValve - 01-31-2012
Here is what I've read about diesel swaps.
-The diesel engine has to be the same year or newer than the vehicle it is going into.
-The diesel engine has to be on a CARB list of diesel engines. This I think is a secret list, but I gather it would be OK if it originally had the EPA emission compliance label.
- Which brings me to the EPA emission compliance label, I've read that the swapped in diesel engine has to have this label in order for you to pass.
-Also, they will require you to have the VIN of the donor vehicle so they know you're not using some marine or off road type engine.
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RE: California smog laws - sassparilla_kid - 02-01-2012
(01-31-2012, 05:27 PM)dropnosky 84 you should be good as far as federal, plus like said above, rangers came with a mazda 4cyl diesel back in the day as a option. Think that year range
Check the CA dmv website. Im doing the same type of thing, and ill be free and clear with my 89 van in a little less than a year. Then it only needs safety inspections, and no longer has emissions, then I can put whatever the hell I want in the van, as long as it meets safety. Could be a steam boiler, and they would pass it
How long does CA do emissions, is there a cutoff point? or do they check any vehicle for emissions regardless of year based on the model requirements of the build year?
You need to go creep out this woman who works at DMV. Is she cute? or shaped like a troll like most of those angry DMV people. If shes not cute, then all you have to do is bring her some fresh bones so she can grind them to make bread.
Steam boiler would be awesome, ultimate torque power!!
She doesn't eat bones just lots and lots of soda and then gets sick every other week
RE: California smog laws - JB3 - 02-02-2012
(02-01-2012, 12:50 AM)sassparilla_kid Steam boiler would be awesome, ultimate torque power!!
She doesn't eat bones just lots and lots of soda and then gets sick every other week
how do you know this woman? She sounds depressing; reclusive, unhealthy, and works at the DMV where everyone is predisposed to be angry about paperwork
RE: California smog laws - sassparilla_kid - 02-02-2012
She's my dad's girlfriend's daughter. And yes, yes, yes, and yes to all of the above. Also she doesn't understand my sarcasm most of the time, which causes problems hahaha
RE: California smog laws - Simpler=Better - 02-03-2012
If there's a will, there's a way....maybe do a Vermont out-of-state registration and swap it over to Cali after VT clears the paperwork?
I used the Vermont out-of-state to get my untitled 1981 Kawasaki on the road...
RE: California smog laws - sassparilla_kid - 02-03-2012
How does that work?
RE: California smog laws - JB3 - 02-03-2012
(02-03-2012, 12:53 PM)Simpler=Better If there's a will, there's a way....maybe do a Vermont out-of-state registration and swap it over to Cali after VT clears the paperwork?
I used the Vermont out-of-state to get my untitled 1981 Kawasaki on the road...
Wasn't CA cracking down on this type of stuff? I think specifically AZ or something, since people were taking untitled vehicles, running them through AZ, and getting them retitled in CA. Something like that.
RE: California smog laws - Simpler=Better - 02-03-2012
Vermont allows you to register as a non-resident, even if you don't have a VT license. They don't require titles if your vehicle is old enough
As for transferring it to Cali, I have no idea. Do you have tag & title places out there?
RE: California smog laws - JB3 - 02-03-2012
(02-03-2012, 01:27 PM)sassparilla_kid How does that work?
"sell" it to someone in VT, or another state that will allow a diesel swap easily, let it be registered and plated in VT as a "diesel", then have them "sell" it back to you in CA. The incoming paperwork will now say diesel.
I was reading in the news that this is a big thing for clearing missing titles, but im not so sure about diesel swaps. Check out this website-
http://www.dieseltoyz.com/
These guys swap engines over to diesel, and because of the particulars of their state, can sell it into other states that could be a problem
RE: California smog laws - sassparilla_kid - 02-03-2012
Hmmm I'll have to look into this, although if I do end up doing anything it will probably be in the future when I either have a more lucrative job, dont have school, or have won the lottery haha