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R-12 replacement - sassparilla_kid - 04-19-2012
Last summer I got my A/C fixed and working good, unfortunately all of the refrigerant leaked out after a couple months because the place I went was a little incompetent and when I took the car back for them to fix the leak they said I would have to leave it there for a week, so I just left. Now that its starting to get warm out again I want to get it refilled, and when I was at O'Reilly earlier they said you can't get the generic replacement in California anymore??
So I was wondering what is the deal with this, and also if there's anything simple I can do about the leak? I noticed all of the r-134a replacement stuff said it had leak-stopper or whatever in it and was wondering if the R-12 replacement has the same kind of leak stopper stuff in it.
Thanks!
RE: R-12 replacement - DeliveryValve - 04-19-2012
I'm not a fan of stop leak products. There is a video out there that I can't find which shows how stop leak products clog a system.
My opinion is you need to actually find out where the leak is. It could be anything, like your compressor blew out a seal, leaking hose, condenser or evaporator.
You may need to put some dye in they system and UV light it or have it sniff tested.
Just in case if your interested, I have 5 cans of Freeze 12 that I'm selling.
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RE: R-12 replacement - sassparilla_kid - 04-19-2012
Yeah I guess you're right, I should just find the leak. As for the freeze 12, how much are you asking?
RE: R-12 replacement - DeliveryValve - 04-19-2012
(04-19-2012, 07:03 PM)sassparilla_kid Yeah I guess you're right, I should just find the leak. As for the freeze 12, how much are you asking?
12 bucks a can. Just trying to get my money back as I'm using R12.
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RE: R-12 replacement - Greazzer - 04-20-2012
If you're interested, you can take the section 608 Test for $25.00 and you can legally buy REAL R-12 refrigerant. The other stuff really does not compare to the real McCoy. Just my .02 cents worth.
RE: R-12 replacement - DeliveryValve - 04-20-2012
(04-20-2012, 06:30 AM)Greazzer If you're interested, you can take the section 608 Test for $25.00 and you can legally buy REAL R-12 refrigerant. The other stuff really does not compare to the real McCoy. Just my .02 cents worth.
Yep R12 great stuff for our cars and I would definitely recommend it.
But if you are chasing a leak, Freeze 12 is cheaper to loose than R12.
RE: R-12 replacement - sassparilla_kid - 04-20-2012
(04-20-2012, 06:30 AM)Greazzer If you're interested, you can take the section 608 Test for $25.00 and you can legally buy REAL R-12 refrigerant. The other stuff really does not compare to the real McCoy. Just my .02 cents worth.
Is it an online test like the "California Food Handler's Test" I had to take before working at a restaurant or is it more like a hunter safety test where you have to go to a course for a couple hours and then take the test?
RE: R-12 replacement - DeliveryValve - 04-20-2012
(04-20-2012, 12:37 PM)sassparilla_kid(04-20-2012, 06:30 AM)Greazzer If you're interested, you can take the section 608 Test for $25.00 and you can legally buy REAL R-12 refrigerant. The other stuff really does not compare to the real McCoy. Just my .02 cents worth.
Is it an online test like the "California Food Handler's Test" I had to take before working at a restaurant or is it more like a hunter safety test where you have to go to a course for a couple hours and then take the test?
609 Certification online testing.
http://www.epatest.com/609/openbook/
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RE: R-12 replacement - sassparilla_kid - 04-20-2012
I'll have to check it out, probably won't be able to do anything towards it though for a while since the end of the semester is near and I have a lot of school work I need to do/ catch up on
RE: R-12 replacement - Greazzer - 04-21-2012
(04-20-2012, 11:09 PM)sassparilla_kid I'll have to check it out, probably won't be able to do anything towards it though for a while since the end of the semester is near and I have a lot of school work I need to do/ catch up on
You got to be kidding me. That test took collectively about 2 hours and that was everything from signing up to getting one's grade. But for arguing with my nephew while taking the test, I would have gotten 50 out of 50. Instead, I got one wrong. It is incredibly easy. Delivery Valve is right about the costs, however, for R-12 vs. the other stuff. If you are guaranteed no leaks, then R-12 is the way to go IMO.
RE: R-12 replacement - sassparilla_kid - 04-21-2012
Alright well maybe I'll look into it sooner, but since I don't have a job right now I doubt I'll be buying R-12 anytime soon lol
RE: R-12 replacement - DeliveryValve - 04-22-2012
Just a note for everyone. If your going to run R134a, it would be a benefit to install a parallel flow condenser and perhaps a larger dryer.
I just had a member over at benzworld send me a link on this kit which includes a parallel flow condenser, new hoses, mounting brackets and stock dryer.
http://www.klimakit.com/product-o/
For $239.95 plus shipping I think it's a good price in terms of time savings of sourcing these parts. But you can certainly do it cheaper and get a tad bigger condenser (16x20 in the kit vs sourcing a 16x22 )if you are acquiring it all yourself.
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