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Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 06-02-2012 Hi Just to let you know that i have made a new version of my gearbox controller for the 722.6 gearbox. if sombody want to use this box in older cars. and enjoy the overdrive and lockup. Gearbox feature Full automatic mode Manuel mode by the little joystick Manuel mode width Paddle (one wire true steering column). Fully adjustable shift hardness and speed. As it is a diesel forum the controller can also do different thing. 1. Build in BOOST controller through electronic Vacuum valve. 2. Build in VGT BOOST controller through electronic Vacuum valve. (Need EGP signal) 3. It can also adjust the idle of a Manuel OM603 pump, 4. It has input for EGT K typ sensor. Some thoughts. As i have build some extra output in it can also do other things depending on the input. Input is (TPS, BOOST, EGP, EGT, KM, RPM,) Iam open for any suggestion you can think of. ??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLmaMMUfxPw&feature=g-all-lik RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 06-03-2012 And some Picture (06-02-2012, 04:44 PM)olefejer Hi RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - syche - 06-03-2012 (06-03-2012, 03:06 PM)olefejer And some Picture I just sent you a mail few minutes ago, looking forward to read you RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - HoleshotHolset - 06-06-2012 Are any parts from ver 1 used in ver 2? Beers, Matt RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 06-06-2012 (06-06-2012, 12:15 AM)HoleshotHolset Are any parts from ver 1 used in ver 2? Yes almost all parts are the same, controller, Software, all Electronic parts, I dont want to loose the experience from my 60,000 km driving width the ver 1 controller. :-) New is PCB, plug, housing RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - raysorenson - 06-07-2012 (06-02-2012, 04:44 PM)olefejer 2. Build in VGT BOOST controller through electronic Vacuum valve. (Need EGP signal) To be clear, this is setup to control a vacuum actuated VGT, correct? If correct, see suggestion below vvv Quote:Some thoughts. A generic PWM output with user select-able frequency that is "3D" mapped using load vs RPM for "open loop" control of some electronic VGT turbos. Megasquirt 3 example: RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 06-08-2012 Yes this is vacuum actuatet VGT only. for now But Working a little on the Hella actuator also ;-) Thanks for the inspiration. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - syche - 06-10-2012 Hi all. Just thinking of a double mapping possibility, like sport and eco using the W/S switch next to the gear shifter. Can the controller do that? Transmission oil temp monitoring would also be interesting and maybe 1 output linked to it with a preset value so you can drive a fan on a cooler for it. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 06-11-2012 (06-10-2012, 09:28 PM)syche Hi all.Hi yes the W/S Switch is used to load 2 different mapping, and in the menu there is a 3 one witch can be used as backup. Today there is Oil temp monitoring, and there is extra PWM output, It would not take long to make it possible to turn on a fan. witch can be used to trigger a relay and turn on a fan at a specific temp, great idea. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - Kozuka - 06-11-2012 If you didn't use a automatic transmission, could you use the the vacuum actuated VNT/VGT control standalone from the rest of the system? RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 06-12-2012 (06-11-2012, 01:35 PM)Kozuka If you didn't use a automatic transmission, could you use the the vacuum actuated VNT/VGT control standalone from the rest of the system?Hi Yes for shure it can be used only as boost controller. If it is only used as boost controller it can also take in the RPM from the HE351VE and HE341VE i have tried it. and of course the EGT make sence for a boost controller. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - 2996 - 06-13-2012 This controller is way better than Ole is writing it is, as he is a bit modest I think The amount of intelligence that went into coding the interface and framework (backend) are extremely impressive! The controller is very intuitive to use, yet very powerful in terms of control, and behind the scenes, it does everything you want and more. I am using it (version 1) to control a VGT turbo, absolutely love it, and continue to be impressed with it's performance and flexibility. In fact, I think I want to get version 2 now! RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - johan84 - 06-20-2012 the EGP is that standing for exhaust gas pressure why do you need this and how do you control the vgt on it ? RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 06-20-2012 (06-20-2012, 02:23 PM)johan84 the EGP is that standing for exhaust gas pressure Yes EGP is exhaust gas pressure. I use this as i am controlling the difference between Boost and EGP, if you running width lets say 50% TPS that is not enough TPS to reach full boost, then iam controlling The differential pressure between EGP and boost. Today i use this setting if( TPS > 0 and TPS < 10 ) max_dif_pressure = 30 psi if( TPS > 10 and TPS < 50 ) max_dif_pressure = 15 psi if( TPS > 49 and TPS < 60 ) max_dif_pressure = 25 psi if( TPS > 59 ) max_dif_pressure = 30 psi When full boost is reach i regulate this and open vanes. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - johan84 - 06-21-2012 (06-20-2012, 03:10 PM)olefejer(06-20-2012, 02:23 PM)johan84 the EGP is that standing for exhaust gas pressure oke so when working good you always have the highest boost pressure when you step on the gas? gr johan RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 06-22-2012 Yes i keep it as ready as possible by when crusing always keep 3-4 PSI more backpressure then Boost, that way when you like power, the actuator dont have to travel wery long, the other reason is that the car is wery noisy width fully open wanes :-) RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - Turbo - 07-02-2012 It seams you have a great thing, very interesting I have a R2S turbo system that I want to use at my 270cdi. To be able to do that I need to be able controlling 3 vacuum actuated clocks 1 is bypassing high preasure turbo 2 bypass compressor side of small turbo 3 waste gate for low pressure turbo for 1 I need to know it is opening at a certain rpm for not over running the small turbo and some for of alarm. How fare has you come on the Hella actuator? I am working on a compound sepup with VNT turbos with Hella Actuators and mapping it? RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 07-03-2012 (07-02-2012, 02:58 PM)Turbo It seams you have a great thing, very interestingI am actually rigth now working on the Turbo Controller part. I have wishes from different people, What i think i am going to do is that the 3 extra PWM output there is, can be configuret to do what ever people want. Lets say first you choose what PWM-1 should do if tou choose TPS dependent then you put in PWM value in for every 10% TPS 10 data points. If you choose RPM on another you get 15 data points, where you choose PWM out for every 500 RPM If you choose Boost/Analog you set PWM for every 0,5 volt, But it takes some time to do it. i will let you know when i know more how it turns out RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - Mark_M - 07-09-2012 Just wanted to say that after reading your V1 thread and now the V2 thread I am very impressed with your work. I am just starting to learn Arduino controllers and its pretty mind boggling what you have created here. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 07-30-2012 Just to show how the Boost Menu looks like now. The Normal and VNT turbo is finish But the 3 extra PWM output, for different thinks like butterfly valve or something like that, needs a little more work. https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=14O89nQPYvY_ykeY8_RqFtwsyDq6TEhbj4IeIH9tLViA RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - Mark_M - 07-30-2012 nice work. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - thegooch27 - 09-18-2012 Wow, this controller is amazing! I also watched your videos and Youtube and noticed in the comments that this transmission could be adapted to a W123 with your controller and am now really interested. I recently ordered a rebuilt 722.303 but am thinking of changing my order over to a 722.6xx. Would housing modifications be necessary or would the right 722.6 just bolt up? I suppose I would lose my speedo or maybe I could put an electric based speedo in from another Mercedes? The transmission looks longer so I would probably need to shorten part of the drive shaft. Is there a rear transmission mount on the 722.6? Sorry for all the questions! RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - aaa - 09-18-2012 The 722.6 would not have a 617-style bellhousing, although it'd be fine with a 603. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - thegooch27 - 09-18-2012 (09-18-2012, 07:58 PM)aaa The 722.6 would not have a 617-style bellhousing, although it'd be fine with a 603.Bummer RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - thegooch27 - 09-19-2012 (06-02-2012, 04:44 PM)olefejer HiWould it be possible to manage cruise control with your unit? Thanks RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 09-20-2012 (09-19-2012, 10:19 PM)thegooch27No that is not possible, sorry(06-02-2012, 04:44 PM)olefejer HiWould it be possible to manage cruise control with your unit? Thanks RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - thegooch27 - 09-20-2012 (09-20-2012, 10:51 AM)olefejerMay I ask why it isn't possible? Is it just a matter of not enough room on your board or something else? I was curious as I had hoped to somehow interface the Audiovox CCS-100 with a controller of my own making, but I do not know what I am doing, just learning. Thanks(09-19-2012, 10:19 PM)thegooch27No that is not possible, sorry(06-02-2012, 04:44 PM)olefejer HiWould it be possible to manage cruise control with your unit? Thanks RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 09-21-2012 (09-19-2012, 10:19 PM)thegooch27 May I ask why it isn't possible? Is it just a matter of not enough room on your board or something else? I was curious as I had hoped to somehow interface the Audiovox CCS-100 with a controller of my own making, but I do not know what I am doing, just learning. Thanks Well it would be possible to do it, but i just not have plans for it now, i have space in the memory, no problem there. It would be some work, first save you current speed when you press a button. and then send out a PWM signal to a vaccum valve controlling a vaccum actuatet trottle, depending on the speed being faster or slower then the setpoint. but there are some safety aspect, i dont like. And i dont think a cruisecontrol is for the racetrack :-) RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - kotka - 09-24-2012 Sorry - off: olefejer, I dropped you a PM but not sure you got it - it shows it is undelivered for some reason. would appreciate if you PM me back. thanks RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - JustPassinThru - 09-24-2012 (09-24-2012, 09:53 AM)kotka Sorry - off: The "N/A (not sent)" notation is a bug in the forum software. The message does get transmitted. Oddly, if you send it to multiple recipients, you don't get the "N/A not sent", instead it works correctly and says "multiple recipients". RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - 2996 - 10-03-2012 (09-21-2012, 01:11 PM)olefejer but there are some safety aspect, i dont like. Those two statements, especially the first, are enough not to make a designer/programmer not want to implement that functionality ever. It is just not worth his risk, nor have him be responsible for the possibility of his device, hurting the user or others. Besides, the controller does a ridiculous amount of other awesome things, it is like a dream come true RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - thegooch27 - 10-08-2012 (10-03-2012, 02:17 PM)2996I never said the controller wasn't awesome, because it is. In the original post, Ole asked for suggestions and that is what I provided. I have another one as well. Now I'm wondering if a water/methanol controller could be integrated?(09-21-2012, 01:11 PM)olefejer but there are some safety aspect, i dont like. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 10-09-2012 (10-08-2012, 11:52 PM)thegooch27Depending on what you want to trigger water/methanol(10-03-2012, 02:17 PM)2996I never said the controller wasn't awesome, because it is. In the original post, Ole asked for suggestions and that is what I provided. I have another one as well. Now I'm wondering if a water/methanol controller could be integrated?(09-21-2012, 01:11 PM)olefejer but there are some safety aspect, i dont like. It should be possible already, in current version. one of the AUX output should be selectet. and you choose the PWM for the Pump or injector. If you want to start the pump a 20 psi then you set it to do that. Or what do you want to trigger it, ? TPS, RPM, Boost, EGP RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - GWG001 - 10-16-2012 Hi all, I have sent Ole a PM, but I'm not sure if he has got it. Does anyone have any contact details for Ole i.e. website or email? One (or two!) of these controllers would be a great help to me and I need to find out if he builds them for sale. Thanks for all the help. Gavin RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - 2996 - 10-16-2012 Ole will respond to you, he is probably busy creating and implementing new features for us I will let him know you are trying to get in contact with him. Yes, he does sell the controllers. Really, they should almost be called a gearbox and boost controller among other things. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - DirtDiesel - 10-21-2012 does this come for the 617 transmission. is there any adapting possible. would love to have this little guy. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - aaa - 10-21-2012 You would have bellhousing troubles. Although the bellhousing portion appears removable, as is the 617 engine plate. Might make it easier to machine an adapter. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - hean500e - 01-17-2013 Hej Ole. Lyder spændende det du har gang i.. Jeg har lige et par spørgsmål som jeg håber du vil svare på.. Jeg har en Mercedes W124 500E årgang 1992 som jeg er ved at istansætte totalt. er ved at finde en 6,0 AMG motor som jeg skal ha' lagt i, og vil meget gerne have en nyere 5 trins gerkasse sat i, men har altid hørt at det var umuligt, vil du mene at det vil kunne lade sig gøre med min bil?? Håber at høre fra dig.. Mvh. Henrik Andersen. (06-02-2012, 04:44 PM)olefejer Hi Ups... It should have been a PM.. sorry.. (01-17-2013, 11:10 AM)hean500e Hej Ole. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - TheDon - 01-19-2013 I might have to find a 722.6 now instead of a manual swap.Will you ever off these for sale? My local junk yard is getting a 2002 CLK430 in the yard and maybe that would have a transmission I could use, quick google shows it as a 722.632 RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 01-19-2013 (01-19-2013, 02:37 PM)TheDon I might have to find a 722.6 now instead of a manual swap.Will you ever off these for sale? My local junk yard is getting a 2002 CLK430 in the yard and maybe that would have a transmission I could use, quick google shows it as a 722.632Shure we can find out somthing, just PM me. or send me a mail at olefejer@gmail.com RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - johan84 - 01-24-2013 where do you use the EGT signal for is it just for info?? gr johan RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 01-26-2013 (01-24-2013, 04:05 PM)johan84 where do you use the EGT signal forHi I don't use it for anything regarding Controlling gearbox. It is only info regarding engine. then i just need one display. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - TheDon - 01-29-2013 Do you have any photos on how you have mounted the display? I've been sitting in my car trying to figure out where to put one so its within line of sight and doesn't stick out. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 01-30-2013 (01-29-2013, 02:10 PM)TheDon Do you have any photos on how you have mounted the display? I've been sitting in my car trying to figure out where to put one so its within line of sight and doesn't stick out.As it is an SL it has this great sunglasses compartment in the dash, but the display is wery small and should be able to hide, it was wery difficult to find one witch is able to be mounted, The normal display has a big PCB behind them witch make it much difficult to find a place. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - TheDon - 02-01-2013 Thats pretty slick. Have you posted here about your swap into the SL? I'm still waiting for my junkyard to put the CLK430 into the yard RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 02-01-2013 (02-01-2013, 12:06 PM)TheDon Thats pretty slick. Have you posted here about your swap into the SL?It is almost 4 year ago, but here is picture from the weekend where i did it width help from my brother arrived to my parents place, friday in gas car, drove home sunday in diesel ;-) https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/106399225751159001026/albums/5342457764857138257?authkey=CLil85Pji5C-_wE RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - TheDon - 02-01-2013 you're my hero. I hope by the time my tax money gets to me the transmission is still in the yard. I really want to do this swap! RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - Druk - 02-02-2013 (02-01-2013, 02:09 PM)olefejer https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/106399225751159001026/albums/5342457764857138257?authkey=CLil85Pji5C-_wE Hi Olefejer. It's amazing you did all this work in a weekend. Well done. I'm interested in what looks like a vacuum modulator on the right side of the gearbox in pic #19. The 722.6 fitted on the back of the 962 I have doesn't have anything like that. I know I'm not using this particular box but just interested. Thanks, Derek. RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - olefejer - 02-02-2013 (02-02-2013, 03:35 AM)DrukHi The gearbox i put in that weekend was the originally 722.4 (722.3 width overdrive).(02-01-2013, 02:09 PM)olefejer https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/106399225751159001026/albums/5342457764857138257?authkey=CLil85Pji5C-_wE Then later i was putting in the 722.6 But as i drove it home that weekend, is not the same as everything was done ;-) There have been put many hour in it since then :-) RE: Gearbox Controller 722.6 ver 2 - TheDon - 02-02-2013 Does any 722.6 work with the controller, even 722.605? |