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4 speed auto manual swap problems - gill4321 - 11-07-2012

So to make a long story short. I have a 79 300D that im stuffing a turbo 617 with a manual 4 speed ( full aluminum housing) in. I read around that I would need a 240D auto crossmember which I got from flebay. Today I go to mount the trans and I discover that all crossmembers (300D auto, 240D auto, 240D manual) dont fit and sit way to far back.

300D auto crossmember
   

240D autocrossmember(supposedly)
   

I will have a full conversion build thread later on when Im closer to completion.

Alohas and thanks for your help
Gill P

P.S. hopefully the pics load.

RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - aaa - 11-07-2012

The two pairs of bolt holes you should be using are visible in your pic. Move the anchor clips to the closer holes.

RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - gill4321 - 11-07-2012

Also as you can see that the tunnel gets wider the closer I get to the front of the car. The crossmembers are to short to reach the holes if I go any farther forward. Moving the anchor clips wont solve the problem but I know I will have to if I find the right crossmember.

Alohas
Gill P

RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - Simpler=Better - 11-07-2012

Can you chop things up and reweld?

RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - gill4321 - 11-07-2012

If I where to do that I would make a custom mount and not chop up any mounts. I will have to find the proper offset of the mount and then weld up something.

I was under the impression from reading numerous 4 speed swap threads that I would need a 240D auto crossmember but that didnt work out so well as you can see in the pics. Unless someone sold me the wrong mount.


Alohas
Gill P

RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - aaa - 11-07-2012

The 240d auto crossmember is wide enough for the 4 closer holes.

RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - gill4321 - 11-07-2012

Well then the crossmember I have isnt the 240D auto crossmember since it isnt wide enough. Undecided

RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - aaa - 11-07-2012

Actually I suspect its not the last four, it's the the empty two in the middle and two of the ones being used now.

RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - gill4321 - 11-07-2012

As you can see the 2 mounts in the pictures are the wrong ones. So I think I will custom make a Crossmember and see how it goes. Also I cant seem to find pics or anything on Flebay about a correct crossmember.

RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - aaa - 11-07-2012

I have a 240d auto crossmember being used with my 617, it should fit.

RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - gill4321 - 11-07-2012

Then the one I bought that the seller stated was a 240D auto crossmember is the wrong one. Sad Can you help me track one down since I looked all over and cant seem to find one.

Alohas
Gill P

RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - DeliveryValve - 11-07-2012

That mount you stated that's a 240d auto mount in the second picture doesn't look like a 240d auto mount. The first pic kind of looks like it.

I found this picture comparing the mounts. The 300 auto mount has a bar attached to it for use on the 4 speed manual.



Btw- I can grab an 240d auto mount at my local yard if your interested. Pm me.


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RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - gill4321 - 11-15-2012

Anybody know where I can get a Auto 240D crossmember. Delivery valve was the man and agreed to hook me up then he found out that the cars he had in mind were crushed Sad. Thanks again for your effort DeliveryValve!!! Much appreciated.

Also Im still in need of a 4 speed shifter as well anybody know how to source one or know anybody with one Wink

Alohas
Gill P

RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - SurfRodder - 11-20-2012

(11-15-2012, 02:12 PM)gill4321 Anybody know where I can get a Auto 240D crossmember. Delivery valve was the man and agreed to hook me up then he found out that the cars he had in mind were crushed Sad. Thanks again for your effort DeliveryValve!!! Much appreciated.

Also Im still in need of a 4 speed shifter as well anybody know how to source one or know anybody with one Wink

Alohas
Gill P

I will prolly go to my local yards either tomorrow or friday. Ill let you know if I see any there. I'd doubt the cross member is very much, the shifter may be a little pricey tho. PM me your phone # and Ill call you if they have either.

RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - gill4321 - 12-10-2012

Well I ordered a mount from www.mercedespartscenter.com and they where really helpful. You usually need a VIN number for your orders but they let me slide.

So today I got my mount from Germany from the Manufacturer. Cost me only $109 wish shipping. I know its a little steep but you cant beat brand new.

Part number is 123 242 07 01 just in case the picture is crap.

Alohas everyone and I will make a new thread with the whole swap once its done. SOOOON i Hope

Alohas
Gill P

RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - w123love - 12-11-2012

Hey that is great. Good to know you can still order it new. Thanks for posting the part #

RE: 4 speed auto manual swap problems - gill4321 - 12-11-2012

I know the part number is the hard thing to come by. The rest is just money Wink

Alohas