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Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-02-2012
Hei guy's, I've already made one Thread on my E300TDT S124
but here is one on my E300D W123, pictures is coming tomorrow,
I've changed out my OM617 N/A with an OM606.960
I bought from Erling666 from this forum.
some pictures will be coming later, and I will keep you posted on the build
now I'm only driving with stock OM603 IP and an Holsett HX35 too begin with, just welded a T3 flange to the original manifold
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - w123love - 12-02-2012
Woo Hoo! Looking forward to seeing this project!
Ultimate conversion in my mind!
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-04-2012
I'm trying to upload some pictures, but it won't work...
but, soon it will come some foto's
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-05-2012
Hello, I'm gonna use Photobucket, so after that, you can watch some new pictures
Here is the addresse to my Photobucket, I hope it works
http://s1060.beta.photobucket.com/user/Ksteen2/media/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/IMG_0207.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
Enjoy
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-06-2012
uploaded some pictures to Photobucket
http://s1060.beta.photobucket.com/user/Ksteen2/library/Mercedes%20Prosjekt?
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - EDH_Performance - 12-06-2012
(12-06-2012, 03:30 AM)Ksteen2 uploaded some pictures to Photobucket
http://s1060.beta.photobucket.com/user/Ksteen2/library/Mercedes%20Prosjekt?
Kopier IMG code til bilde ditt og lim inn i tråden din, så ser vi andre her også;D
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-07-2012
Takk for tipset
after some tip form EDH, I understand that the pictures, dont work...
we try again :p
![[Image: IMG_0206.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/IMG_0206.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_0208.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/IMG_0208.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_0207.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/IMG_0207.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_0215.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/IMG_0215.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_0216.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/IMG_0216.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_0217.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/IMG_0217.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_0218.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/IMG_0218.jpg)
this is my holset HX35
more pictures is coming over the weekend, as I'm going to swap engine this weekend
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-08-2012
A new update, its soon finished
some pictures:
tight fit :p
![[Image: IMG_0222.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/IMG_0222.jpg)
sad too se, empty
![[Image: IMG_0224.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/IMG_0224.jpg)
the old wotk horse
with cracked head and 1,4milion Kilometers ![[Image: IMG_0226.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/IMG_0226.jpg)
The new machine with a little HX35
![[Image: IMG_0233.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/IMG_0233.jpg)
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Simpler=Better - 12-09-2012
Awesome!! That's a tight clearance for the turbo, have you considered putting some kind of a heat shield in there?
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-10-2012
oh yes, it tight, and no, I'm not going to use a shield there, its not nessesery
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-10-2012
and its runnin, preaty hard, but its getting there
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - w123love - 12-10-2012
(12-10-2012, 06:41 PM)Ksteen2 and its runnin, preaty hard, but its getting there
Thats great! Looking forward to seeing some video!
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - erling66 - 12-11-2012
(12-10-2012, 06:41 PM)Ksteen2 and its runnin, preaty hard, but its getting there
Wow you are working on your project
Great to see that the engine you got from me is running already, but you said "pretty hard"?Can you make a video?
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-12-2012
yes, I'm workin LATE houers, fortunely i don't start before 8.30 at work, but i work on my car from 5 too 01:30-02:00
I dont need too, I have fixed the problem, I had sett the timing att the pump to 15 BTDC instead of 15 ATDC :p
So, all i need now is too make a throttle wire
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-13-2012
the car is working, but a small problem, the clutch slips as soon as i tuch the throttle..
its bogging me xD
so i need a new clutch :p
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - EDH_Performance - 12-13-2012
Have you checked the clutch cylinder for play? Maybe the cylinder is not freeing the pressure plate
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-13-2012
its the pressure plate that dont have enough pressure on the disk
un mounted it today
sending it to a mechanical workshop near by, so it will be done tomorrow and I can drive it throug the weekend :p
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-14-2012
Here is some finished pictures
![[Image: IMG_0236_zps481686b6.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/IMG_0236_zps481686b6.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_0235_zps177cbb0e.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/IMG_0235_zps177cbb0e.jpg)
![[Image: IMG_0234_zps710d404e.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/IMG_0234_zps710d404e.jpg)
sorry for BAD quality, I'm gonna pick up my camera and take som pictures next weekend
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - w123love - 12-14-2012
Wow that looks so incredibly simple! What kind of clearance issues did you have? Were the motor mounts a big issue?
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-15-2012
clearance is not a big issue..
i used original w124 motor mounts at drilled new hoels in the cross frame that originaly holds the engine..
and custom hoses for water and oil, zero problem, I did it in a week
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-17-2012
so, to day I have orderd some element for my fuel pump, from Dieselkontor.de
they got all i needed for the pump
hope they show up before christmas
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - EDH_Performance - 12-17-2012
(12-17-2012, 10:14 AM)Ksteen2 so, to day I have orderd some element for my fuel pump, from Dieselkontor.de
they got all i needed for the pump
hope they show up before christmas
7mm element? who is building your pump?
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-18-2012
yes, 7mm, I'm going to try to build it my self
it won't get the resaults that göran or pasi makes, but, I'm gonna try
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - EDH_Performance - 12-18-2012
(12-18-2012, 04:31 AM)Ksteen2 yes, 7mm, I'm going to try to build it my self
it won't get the resaults that göran or pasi makes, but, I'm gonna try
Do you have an testbench? Is this the old ford transit elements?
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-19-2012
I don't have a bench, but a co-worker can borow one, and he has good experience with this, so I hope it will be good..
I really dont know what they are from, it's something they sell In germany..
and it's labbled for Mercedes M pump with ann Merdedes parts number..
259.89£ for 6 elements and a restoration kit for the pump
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Mark_M - 12-19-2012
(12-19-2012, 04:15 AM)Ksteen2 I don't have a bench, but a co-worker can borow one, and he has good experience with this, so I hope it will be good..
I really dont know what they are from, it's something they sell In germany..
and it's labbled for Mercedes M pump with ann Merdedes parts number..
259.89£ for 6 elements and a restoration kit for the pump
Yes they are the transit ones.
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - EDH_Performance - 12-20-2012
(12-19-2012, 07:13 PM)Mark_M(12-19-2012, 04:15 AM)Ksteen2 I don't have a bench, but a co-worker can borow one, and he has good experience with this, so I hope it will be good..
I really dont know what they are from, it's something they sell In germany..
and it's labbled for Mercedes M pump with ann Merdedes parts number..
259.89£ for 6 elements and a restoration kit for the pump
Yes they are the transit ones.
Ahh, shit elements! Hard idle and not a good fuel path
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - erling66 - 12-20-2012
I think you should try to install them yourself but not without a bench for adjustment of fuel delivery. Maybe you will have good results and can prove them wrong
Remember they are Bosch and they are build for a TRANSIT so I am sure they are great
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - EDH_Performance - 12-20-2012
(12-20-2012, 10:10 AM)erling66 I think you should try to install them yourself but not without a bench for adjustment of fuel delivery. Maybe you will have good results and can prove them wrong
The amount is one thing, but the phase of each elements is hard to do without a testbench...And gøran grinds and modify brackets and modify the guvenor pretty much to get the results he gets
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-21-2012
yes I will buy and mount them, but I'm not intrested in 500cc's this time, I have sendt a Pump to PP diesel for that..
Im just looking for better performance for may daliy driver, and when a am done with the restorations I will butt on a larger turbo and moooore fuel
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - MFSuper90 - 12-22-2012
This is a cool project!
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 12-24-2012
5 of 5 stars. thats really awesome, even if my english sucks att best :p
but, the car i working preatty good, just nead some more fuel, it isn't happy with so little fiel, only 5mm element with MAX adjustet pump :p
try to get some 6mm elements from Erling soon.. so 7mm in January or somthing
happy holidays diesel freaks
just to have a little update on the prodject, I've instaled an EGT gauge, and its prety neat
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 01-30-2013
now, let's do a little update here..
I've bought a new 6 speed tranny for it, a small but usefull intercooler and new front disc's, all from Erling66, thanks for the parts, and a nice merch talk
I have orderd some flanges for a Manifold, so I'm also going to weld that thing togheter (looking forward to it)
and build a manifold with T6 flage and a BW KKK 31 or 29 in the en of it, pulse split also,
then mount the new 7,5mm pump from PP and the 6 speed, might gotten my hand on a torqe diff from Bakaksel.se also
soon some new pictures will be posted
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 01-31-2013
hy there, Someone's reading my post that can tell me where I can get a diff lock for this car??
it neeed's one really bad xD
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - bruno_pinho - 01-31-2013
So did not buy the elements of dieselkontor?
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 01-31-2013
just mounted the new inter cooler, choped 3 inch's of the top, and it slided nicely in place
![[Image: 72980_316506581802340_9808892_n_zpsb39ce858.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/Mercedes%20Prosjekt/72980_316506581802340_9808892_n_zpsb39ce858.jpg)
one more
not that big, but it's the best way
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RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 01-31-2013
(01-31-2013, 03:14 PM)bruno_pinho So did not buy the elements of dieselkontor?
Oh, I have bought them, but the test Bench i has acsses to, coulden't take in line pumps :/
So Its not so fun, and i really can't wait any more ;p
But, the home made pump will be built and used om my
1991 OM603 w124 tdt prodjekt, when i weld rust and such om this one ;p
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - w123love - 01-31-2013
Thats good thinking sliding it right in there. Do you have an air temp sensor to see how effective the intercooler will be?
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 02-01-2013
No, i have not got so far yet, little tight budsjet, but it will come sooner or later.. xD
just waiting for my PPD pump, and build a manifold to suport the huge KKK K31 turbo, then wi'll se
if it work's proporly :p
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - erling66 - 02-02-2013
Hi Kent
Looks like you are not going out of work for the next few months
Have you ordered a PP pump for your W123? 7,5 mm or 8,5 mm elements?
I think you should see how well the HX35 will work before you consider to put on the KKK K31.
Nice work on the IC, did you weld it yourself?
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 02-02-2013
I've order the 7,5mm monthes ago, somthing went wrong with the payment, but now things are in shape the clerk told me
I am really Intrested in a 8,5
but I will see how the 7,5 fills my need for horse's and torqe..
I'm going to drive it with the HX35 a week or so, I assume it will be a little bit to small
I've seen then with 40's and so on, and thay really get going ;p
I'll se how it works in two weeks, if the pump has arrivde yet
and now, like it's not enough work on the prodject build, I need to get it PKK serified, or M.O.T as it's english word I think.
and its a hole lot of rust I've been welding in the floor section ;p
some pics of that will be posted soon
no Erlig, I welded the crack's in the dent myself, but the "shorting" of the IC, Dagestad maskinverksted did for me, a lokal
steel chop neer by.
I did not take the chance of ruining it, couse it's the only one I've found that fits like this :p
so, now I'm going home to sleep and continue tomorrow
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - MFSuper90 - 02-05-2013
K31?!??!! That turbo is massive for a little om606.
Twins?
If i recall correctly a K31 has a 71mm inducer.
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 02-07-2013
with a supercharger
yes, it has a 71mm inducer, but i've seen them run with turbos as big or bigger
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - MFSuper90 - 02-07-2013
(02-07-2013, 08:55 AM)Ksteen2 with a supercharger
yes, it has a 71mm inducer, but i've seen them run with turbos as big or bigger
That should be a sweeeet ride
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - EDH_Performance - 02-07-2013
(02-07-2013, 12:02 PM)MFSuper90(02-07-2013, 08:55 AM)Ksteen2 with a supercharger
yes, it has a 71mm inducer, but i've seen them run with turbos as big or bigger
That should be a sweeeet ride
Do you know the exducer size?
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 02-09-2013
I think it's the same, it's a 22 housing
Home made flange tool
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Welded flange
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Finished welded, Will be painted later
![[Image: 69750F78-B944-4098-B5CC-82612AC4CC1E-207...31f6f3.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/69750F78-B944-4098-B5CC-82612AC4CC1E-207-0000000C887D81FF_zps6c31f6f3.jpg)
Mounted on work bench
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Mounted in car
![[Image: 4C1EC9CC-1358-4E0C-9E32-CA14B9184B0E-207...ac912c.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/4C1EC9CC-1358-4E0C-9E32-CA14B9184B0E-207-0000000C7673A385_zps7bac912c.jpg)
Just a little motion picture
)![[Image: 4A6FF267-ADBF-4401-B6AB-0CA182A5801C-207...724d2b.jpg]](http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t444/Ksteen2/4A6FF267-ADBF-4401-B6AB-0CA182A5801C-207-0000000C9786071C_zpse4724d2b.jpg)
If someone knows if it's made a billet wheel for This turbo, please let me know
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - erling66 - 02-10-2013
Your new manifold is looking good
Do you have a photo of the inside of the flange?
I think you should have some support brackets for that heavy turbo
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 02-10-2013
No I dont, but I can take one.
Wich flange do you mean?
Yes I need a support to it ;p
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Simpler=Better - 02-10-2013
OK that's insane!! I like the flange too ALOT
RE: Ksteen's W123 daily driver - Ksteen2 - 02-11-2013
(02-10-2013, 10:21 PM)Simpler=Better OK that's insane!! I like the flange too ALOT
you'r nick is, simple is better, and this exactualy that, big and simple is better, more horse power :p