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Questions about an om617 project - Njdub - 05-06-2013
I'm currently working on an om617 superturbo project and have been reading up a lot about pumps and turbos and want to clarify some stuff. Pretty sure I've ready sourced an 'm' pump and going to have it sent to dieselmeken. Now I need a bigger turbo and intercooler.
It looks like people are using the hx35s? The om617 is a t3 flange so this would bolt up if it is a t3 flange correct?
Also what types of intercoolers are everyone using?
Any other modifications that I might be missing?
My goal is around 200hp and it will be bolted up to an ax-15 transmission and put in a 92 isuzu pickup.
RE: Questions about an om617 project - Grecy - 05-07-2013
What engine->trans adapter will you be using?
-Dan
RE: Questions about an om617 project - Njdub - 05-07-2013
(05-07-2013, 06:50 PM)Grecy What engine->trans adapter will you be using?
-Dan
I'm going to be ordering the adapter from mercedesdiesel4x4.com
RE: Questions about an om617 project - SurfRodder - 05-08-2013
(05-06-2013, 08:48 PM)Njdub bolted up to an ax-15 transmission
I would consider a different transmission for offroading...that AX-15 is not too strong and depending on the offroading you do, not as much fun to use... The AW-4 is the same bolt pattern and a good offroad trans as long as you keep it cool. The wiring for the pre-96 ones are easy as well, just grab the module under the pass. side dash and the wiring to the trans... likely a swap kit out there as well...
Anyway, an HX-35 would be a nice match, but with a modified pump you would probably want more along the lines of an HX-40.
A liquid to air intercooler would likely be easiest to route and fit under the hood, but a little more complex.
RE: Questions about an om617 project - Njdub - 05-08-2013
Thanks for the advice surfrodder but I should have mentioned this isn't a wheeler or going off road.
This truck is lowered a lot and I'm planning on air ride soon but want to put the om617 first.
Ill check out the hx40 though. I don't know much of anything about turbos so any info is welcomed.
RE: Questions about an om617 project - Simpler=Better - 05-08-2013
HX35 turbos are crazy cheap coming off cummins, so if $$ is an issue that's always an option. Make sure you're got pyrometer and exhaust pressure gauges installed pre turbo.
RE: Questions about an om617 project - Njdub - 05-08-2013
(05-08-2013, 02:02 PM)Simpler=Better HX35 turbos are crazy cheap coming off cummins, so if $$ is an issue that's always an option. Make sure you're got pyrometer and exhaust pressure gauges installed pre turbo.
Yeah thats what i plan on doing. Just to make sure the hx35 with a t3 flange is what i want correct?
RE: Questions about an om617 project - SurfRodder - 05-09-2013
(05-08-2013, 01:23 PM)Njdub Thanks for the advice surfrodder but I should have mentioned this isn't a wheeler or going off road.
This truck is lowered a lot and I'm planning on air ride soon but want to put the om617 first.
That changes everything then... I hate automatics on the road, but appreciate them in the mud and sand...
RE: Questions about an om617 project - MFSuper90 - 05-09-2013
SurfRodder, don't you think he would be better off with a hy35 because of the tighter housing?
Should Help with lowend, but the wastegate should allow plenty of topend flow also.
Just my thoughts
RE: Questions about an om617 project - yankneck696 - 05-09-2013
The HY would get you off the line better. Just have Goran set the pump for the turbo. Soon, I'll be replacing my HY with an HX on my 01 Cummins. It'll need a rebuild (simple) $150 shipped if you want it.
Ed
RE: Questions about an om617 project - Njdub - 05-10-2013
I've found a few hx35s on ebay for a fair price and am thinking about pulling the trigger. I just need to tell goran which turbo I plan on using?
RE: Questions about an om617 project - Simpler=Better - 05-11-2013
(05-10-2013, 10:38 PM)Njdub I've found a few hx35s on ebay for a fair price and am thinking about pulling the trigger. I just need to tell goran which turbo I plan on using?
Yup, and how you plan to drive it (drag race, daily, offroad,etc)
RE: Questions about an om617 project - SurfRodder - 05-13-2013
(05-09-2013, 07:08 AM)MFSuper90 SurfRodder, don't you think he would be better off with a hy35 because of the tighter housing?you're correct...generally a smaller exhaust housing is better on smaller engines like ours, I didnt even think about it as he was asking if the hx would work with a modified pump.
Should Help with lowend, but the wastegate should allow plenty of topend flow also.
Just my thoughts
(05-08-2013, 04:27 PM)Njdub Just to make sure the hx35 with a t3 flange is what i want correct?Since I havent seen this addressed yet (maybe Im just being blind, tho):
Yes, both the HY and HX should have a T3 flange.
RE: Questions about an om617 project - Njdub - 05-14-2013
(05-13-2013, 10:12 AM)SurfRodderThank you for all the info surfrodder!(05-09-2013, 07:08 AM)MFSuper90 SurfRodder, don't you think he would be better off with a hy35 because of the tighter housing?you're correct...generally a smaller exhaust housing is better on smaller engines like ours, I didnt even think about it as he was asking if the hx would work with a modified pump.
Should Help with lowend, but the wastegate should allow plenty of topend flow also.
Just my thoughts
(05-08-2013, 04:27 PM)Njdub Just to make sure the hx35 with a t3 flange is what i want correct?Since I havent seen this addressed yet (maybe Im just being blind, tho):
Yes, both the HY and HX should have a T3 flange.
RE: Questions about an om617 project - snowbrd84 - 05-16-2013
So an hy35 will bolt up to the OM617??
I put an OM617.951 in my Jeep with a 3 speed auto. My off the line acceleration sucks until it gets a little boost. Would the hy35 spool up faster and be a better turbo ??
RE: Questions about an om617 project - Simpler=Better - 05-16-2013
(05-16-2013, 03:48 PM)snowbrd84 So an hy35 will bolt up to the OM617??
I put an OM617.951 in my Jeep with a 3 speed auto. My off the line acceleration sucks until it gets a little boost. Would the hy35 spool up faster and be a better turbo ??
I don't think so, but I'm not 100%. If you want faster boost a VNT will deliver.
RE: Questions about an om617 project - MFSuper90 - 05-16-2013
(05-16-2013, 03:48 PM)snowbrd84 So an hy35 will bolt up to the OM617??
I put an OM617.951 in my Jeep with a 3 speed auto. My off the line acceleration sucks until it gets a little boost. Would the hy35 spool up faster and be a better turbo ??
faster than the stock garrett or kkk? No.
The hy35 has a much larger intake and turbine wheel than our stock turbos. (40mm I think, vs. 56mm inducer) Takes alot more exhaust gas to turn the bigger wheels even though it has a small exhaust housing. Faster than an hx? for sure.
RE: Questions about an om617 project - dieselboy - 05-17-2013
This is a hy35 on a om617
http://youtu.be/QrNzlMRq7XU