Turbo location and orientation

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Turbo location and orientation - Mark_M - 06-20-2013

Couple of easy questions for those in the know.

I am puting a 605 TD in my car but I have no space down the side of the engine. I do have loads of space at the front of the engine though so what would the likely affect be if I extend the manifold out to the front and mount the turbo there?

Next question is does a turbo have to be mounted with the oil feed at the top and drain out the bottom? I know its the norm and it makes sense but its all under pressure so I cant really see a problem if it was turned.

Quick pick so you can see how much room I have at the front:

[Image: 20130615_164459.jpg]

RE: Turbo location and orientation - Simpler=Better - 06-20-2013

Out front is fine, that's how the V8 domestics do it. The turbo shaft MUST be horizontal ±15°, and the drain has to be on the bottom.

RE: Turbo location and orientation - willbhere4u - 06-21-2013

What kind of car is that it looks like fiberglass? or at least really smoothed out body work and its RHD? I'm guessing British TRV? lotus? Austin?

RE: Turbo location and orientation - Mark_M - 06-21-2013

Thanks, I couldn't understand why it mattered for the oil feed/return so did some further reading and I get it now.

Its a fiberglass body shell. The car is a Reliant Scimitar, probably completely unknown in the states but used to be fairly common in the UK and Europe.

This is the car when I first got it

[Image: MVC-298F.JPG]

Bit of a state but its getting there now. I need to do a build thread soon.

RE: Turbo location and orientation - MFSuper90 - 06-23-2013

That thing looks awesome!

RE: Turbo location and orientation - Druk - 06-23-2013

Interesting alternator position Mark. Where are you putting the power steering pump? Mine is working well with 85psi BTW.

edit...no power steering.....silly me..

RE: Turbo location and orientation - Mark_M - 06-23-2013

This car was never avaliable with a hydraulic rack so the pump isn't required. Would have been a right mare getting a rack to fit. Doesn't mean it doesn't have power steering though ;-) I have put an electric power assist steering column in.

Glad you got your pump sorted out. That could have been expensive if you hadn't found out about the different pressure pumps.

RE: Turbo location and orientation - mantahead - 06-23-2013

(06-23-2013, 04:46 PM)Mark_M This car was never avaliable with a hydraulic rack so the pump isn't required. Would have been a right mare getting a rack to fit. Doesn't mean it doesn't have power steering though ;-) I have put an electric power assist steering column in.

Glad you got your pump sorted out. That could have been expensive if you hadn't found out about the different pressure pumps.

nice conversion,
are you going to use a corsa electric steering column?

here is a pic of a honda s2000 that has the turbo slightly in front.
looks like a bit of work.

[Image: honda-s2000-prostreet-turbo-kit-1.jpg]

RE: Turbo location and orientation - Mark_M - 06-23-2013

its already fitted and tested, yes its a corsa column and a standalone controller so I can vary the amount of assist it gives.

RE: Turbo location and orientation - Simpler=Better - 06-24-2013

The coyote guys run 'em like this:

[Image: MMRcoyote202.jpg]

http://www.theturboforums.com/threads/314756-5-4-dohc-turbo-modular-fox-coupe-8-99-155mph!/page4

Ugh those pics make me want a 4.6 in my DD! Would need a gutted front end to fit that tall thing under the hood though.

RE: Turbo location and orientation - mantahead - 06-24-2013

(06-23-2013, 05:59 PM)Mark_M its already fitted and tested, yes its a corsa column and a standalone controller so I can vary the amount of assist it gives.

yea, they are good enough job, i've been running one in the manta for years.

Are you going to start the manifold soon?

RE: Turbo location and orientation - Mark_M - 06-24-2013

Cheers simply=better, its the second pic that I was planning on going with. As luck would have it running like that makes it much easier for me to run the twin exhausts that the car should have.

Will be starting the manifold in the next couple of weeks but its nothing to get excited about this time round. All I am doing at the moment is linking the original manifold round to the front to hook up to the new turbo location. I know this isn't the best solution but its easy and I just want to use the original turbo at the moment. See how the car handles that lot and if it can take it then I will go full on with a custom manifold and big turbo. There is history here of going all in with a V8, spending weeks making 4-2-1 manifolds only to change direction. So its keep it simple, get it going and take it from there.

Below is what was supposed to be in the engine bay

[Image: P1000355.JPG]

At the price of fuel these days it was either change direction or scrap everything!