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W 124 CE to turbodiesel - barrote - 06-28-2013
hello fine people,
I´m the lucky owner of a w124 coupe , 220CE , with the craziest idea of droping a 605.962/1 inside, friend of mine will help me to maintain the electronics and swap the ECU for the diesel version.
The engine inside now is a M111, and my question for u people is : does the manual gearbox attached to this M111 suit the 605 engine?
thanks in advance , it will help me a lot know it in advance instead of dicover it by miself.
FD.
RE: W 124 CE to turbodiesel - erling66 - 06-28-2013
The gearbox will bolt on to the 605. The difficult thing will be to use the electronic pump. That is why most(maybe everyone?) use a mechanical fuel pump from a 602. You have room enough for a 606.962 if you want even more power
RE: W 124 CE to turbodiesel - barrote - 06-29-2013
hy , there
well this 606 coulb be a pretty fine idea, by the way i know someone wich can sell me one complete by 700€
complete engine.the problema is that i still have to legalize the car after the swap. so i guess a 5 cyl around 200hp should be fine.
a friend of mine can remap this ECU pretty fine as long as they are siemens. and he always say that we can maintain the electronics, and run the pump and all systems in the car.
by the way u have any idea about 606 fuel consuption? this days that matters
RE: W 124 CE to turbodiesel - Alastair E - 06-30-2013
I know of no-one who has transferred a Electronic 605 or 606 Engine into any vehicle--And retained the Electronic Pump and original ECU.
The Engine ECU will not run without ALL the other electronic systems that the Donor car has connected and functioning. These include ABS, Transmission, Body electronics (SRS, ARB etc), Dashboard etc etc.
--This is why ALL the usual conversions use MECHANICAL pumps from earlier engines.
BTW--The ECU's running OM.605/6 from W210 are BOSCH, Not Siemens.
RE: W 124 CE to turbodiesel - bruno_pinho - 06-30-2013
Boas
Forca com isso,eu consegui bem mais que 200cv no meu om605 com bomba eletrica...
RE: W 124 CE to turbodiesel - mantahead - 06-30-2013
(06-30-2013, 01:15 PM)Alastair E I know of no-one who has transferred a Electronic 605 or 606 Engine into any vehicle--And retained the Electronic Pump and original ECU.hi,
The Engine ECU will not run without ALL the other electronic systems that the Donor car has connected and functioning. These include ABS, Transmission, Body electronics (SRS, ARB etc), Dashboard etc etc.
--This is why ALL the usual conversions use MECHANICAL pumps from earlier engines.
BTW--The ECU's running OM.605/6 from W210 are BOSCH, Not Siemens.
i run the c250 om605 on electronic 7.5mm pump with abs ecu disconnected and airbag ecu disconnected.
its more to do with key and immobilser.
as long as key and transponder where used it could be done.
RE: W 124 CE to turbodiesel - barrote - 07-01-2013
well, i´m not sure how i´m i gona plug it. ECU siemens or bosch does matter litle, except that "we" can fool the siemens one.
this veicle the 220CE , got all the wiring , ECU, ABS computer all thats needed to go for the ECU diesel. of course maybe i got to fix some wiring for mass flow probe and if we want, intercooler pressure etc. or maybe i just go for the mechanical pump. wich seems a better doing to me.
i will have u people imformed about the progres.
camarada bruno pinho pm , gostava de partilhar umas ideas consigo.
Mantahead , where can i find some 7.5/ 8 elements , reliable of course.
thanks to all
F D
RE: W 124 CE to turbodiesel - DiseaselWeasel - 07-02-2013
(06-30-2013, 01:15 PM)Alastair E This is why ALL the usual conversions use MECHANICAL pumps from earlier engines.
And even those have eletronic idle control (ELR)
But this is much simpler to wire in = 8 wires in total.
RE: W 124 CE to turbodiesel - mantahead - 07-08-2013
(07-01-2013, 05:01 AM)barrote well, i´m not sure how i´m i gona plug it. ECU siemens or bosch does matter litle, except that "we" can fool the siemens one.hi,
this veicle the 220CE , got all the wiring , ECU, ABS computer all thats needed to go for the ECU diesel. of course maybe i got to fix some wiring for mass flow probe and if we want, intercooler pressure etc. or maybe i just go for the mechanical pump. wich seems a better doing to me.
i will have u people imformed about the progres.
camarada bruno pinho pm , gostava de partilhar umas ideas consigo.
Mantahead , where can i find some 7.5/ 8 elements , reliable of course.
thanks to all
F D
i don't think there are many elements for sale now a days on their own.
you could send your pump to Dieselmeken on here.
RE: W 124 CE to turbodiesel - barrote - 07-10-2013
hi,
i don't think there are many elements for sale now a days on their own.
you could send your pump to Dieselmeken on here.
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unfornutely it looks like as u say, dieselmeken wont sell me theirs, so i dont have enough Money to send my pump to anyone, one day i will find some and that is not that tricky to replace them, just got to know how things work , thats all.
anyway if u know of someone that can find me some , pm me, i be very glad to try and find out if i got enough Money to go "high mm".
thanks and good rides.