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Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 11-04-2013
If all goes as planned I'll be picking it up next weekend, a '71 International 1310, with a service bed (you know, with toolboxes out the ass) and a camper on it. But wait, the best part.... it's free!!!
Apparently it has an overheating problem, despite the radiator and water pump being fairly new, so I'm suspecting it might be timing or something 
. Anyway, I'll be sure to post about it and what not, just thought I'd share lol 
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - Simpler=Better - 11-04-2013
Sweet! If you're overheating check the gauge, thermostat orientation, water pump flow, and mixture. A lean mix will run really hot. A super lean mix will backfire out the carb(at least on motorcycles)
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 11-04-2013
Yeah the guy I'm getting the truck from said the water pump, radiator, and thermostat were all replaced about 2 years ago, and that it just started overheating during the summer. He said he couldn't figure out why it was overheating (checked water pump, thermostat, radiator) and thinks the problem is that the heads are warped, although I'm skeptical of that, since I've read the 345 is a pretty beefy engine. I was suspecting it could be timing or maybe fuel mix, so those are gonna be the first things I check out. Hopefully it ends up being a simple fix so I can start using the truck for truck stuff lol.
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - willbhere4u - 11-04-2013
Also check that the cooling system holds pressure I had a 1957 Packard with the factory supercharged 289 v8. with a new radiator and the cap would not seal causing it not to pressurize and boil over
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 11-04-2013
Awesome, another good easy thing to check. I'm pretty stoked about this thing
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - Simpler=Better - 11-04-2013
You will learn to hate carbeurators pretty quickly. One blocked passage and she's running wrong. Research "reading plugs", basically you run at a specific rpm and kill the ignition, then pull the spark plugs to check their color. dark= rich, light=lean.
It's not uncommon for cheap thermostats to not work properly too
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 11-04-2013
Yeah, I've been thinking about looking into TBI
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - Purplecomputer - 11-05-2013
Shiiiiit, I googled cornbinder and got this
![[Image: JD-Corn-Binder.jpg]](http://www.sdstate.edu/agmuseum/collections/content/images/JD-Corn-Binder.jpg)
I was confused as to why you would even need that.
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - willbhere4u - 11-05-2013
International harvester IHI slang I missed out by 15 minuets on a 64 scout with the factory turbocharged 4 cylinder
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - Simpler=Better - 11-05-2013
(11-05-2013, 03:59 PM)Purplecomputer Shiiiiit, I googled cornbinder and got this
I was confused as to why you would even need that.
Yeah, it's much messier than a wood chipper :p
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 11-05-2013
Lololol
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - Austincarnut - 11-06-2013
a corn holer, ay?
(11-04-2013, 01:09 AM)sassparilla_kid If all goes as planned I'll be picking it up next weekend, a '71 International 1310, with a service bed (you know, with toolboxes out the ass) and a camper on it. But wait, the best part.... it's free!!!
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 11-06-2013
^^^lol
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - willbhere4u - 11-07-2013
cornholio
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - MFSuper90 - 11-07-2013
Need TeePee for me bunghole. Haha sorry, I couldn't resist.
I want to see some pics of this unit!
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 11-07-2013
I'll be sure to post some pics after I get it, which will hopefully be some time on Sunday
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 11-19-2013
Got the cornbinder home, pics to come in the next couple days!
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - Simpler=Better - 11-19-2013
(11-19-2013, 01:29 AM)sassparilla_kid Got the cornbinder home, pics to come in the next couple days!
Last time you said that it took 6 months....
Does it run at all?
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - MFSuper90 - 11-19-2013
(11-19-2013, 09:09 AM)Simpler=Better(11-19-2013, 01:29 AM)sassparilla_kid Got the cornbinder home, pics to come in the next couple days!
Last time you said that it took 6 months....
Does it run at all?
Jeesh, someone is an impatient little fella :p
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - Simpler=Better - 11-19-2013
If we don't give him a hard time, who will?
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 11-19-2013
So the truck was apparently overheating (within five miles of driving) before I got it, and I decided to try the simplest of solutions to get it on the road, as I planned on having AAA tow it for me because my buddy flaked with the trailer. So I drove up there with my pop, hooked the battery back up, topped off the radiator, put on a new radiator cap, drove it 101 miles home without overheating.
It did use about a gallon of water though
I can't post pics from my phone because they're too large, so I'll do it after work today when I can shrink them down on the computer
Alright let's see if this link works:
http://imgur.com/a/EH7mQ
You can see the tangled Mickey Mouse nest of wiring I need to fix lol
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - MFSuper90 - 11-22-2013
Dang, take that bulky ass camper off and she'd be sweet! Unless of course you like the camper :p
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 11-22-2013
Yeah I have the camper on craigslist right now, I'm pretty much gonna accept the first offer I get for it lol
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - JB3 - 11-25-2013
how did it handle with that monstrous block of plywood and forgotten dreams sitting in the bed?
no overheating is great news, any obvious coolant leaks? Keeping my finger crossed for a leaky radiator or such
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 11-25-2013
It was possibly the scariest drive ever, that camper is like a sail that also weighs a thousand pounds lol. No obvious leaks so I'm suspecting head gasket or something, so I'll probably end up rebuilding the engine at some point. First I need to get rid of the camper, then after that I'm rewiring the whole truck, then we'll see where it goes from there!
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - Simpler=Better - 11-25-2013
(11-25-2013, 03:29 PM)sassparilla_kid It was possibly the scariest drive ever, that camper is like a sail that also weighs a thousand pounds lol. No obvious leaks so I'm suspecting head gasket or something, so I'll probably end up rebuilding the engine at some point. First I need to get rid of the camper, then after that I'm rewiring the whole truck, then we'll see where it goes from there!
I don't have the time to look it up right now-but painless wiring systems are just rebranded generic stuff you can get on ebay. You pay a premium for them to piece it together for you-so if you don't mind buying separate components you can put the truck together cheap.
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 11-26-2013
Yeah the cheapest pre made harness I could find is $200, so I might just buy a plethora of different colored wires and a fuse block and do it all myself. I've been reading up on everything wiring related I can find to help make up my mind
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - Simpler=Better - 11-26-2013
(11-26-2013, 04:33 AM)sassparilla_kid Yeah the cheapest pre made harness I could find is $200, so I might just buy a plethora of different colored wires and a fuse block and do it all myself. I've been reading up on everything wiring related I can find to help make up my mind
Just DIY, bump up your wire gauge by 2 for all connections, use a soldering iron & heat shrink, and dielectric grease all connections.
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - willbhere4u - 11-26-2013
I would just do the head gaskets forget a rebuild just check the heads for cracks and replace the valve seals and put it back on the road and enjoy
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - Simpler=Better - 11-26-2013
(11-26-2013, 11:25 AM)willbhere4u I would just do the head gaskets forget a rebuild just check the heads for cracks and replace the valve seals and put it back on the road and enjoy
x2 it's a domestic v8-they're kind of known for being fast & loose
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 11-26-2013
(11-26-2013, 04:23 PM)Simpler=Better(11-26-2013, 11:25 AM)willbhere4u I would just do the head gaskets forget a rebuild just check the heads for cacks and replace the valve seals and put it back on the road and enjoy
x2 it's a domestic v8-they're kind of known for being fast & loose
Lol, first things first though, gotta get the camper off, then I plan on diving into it. Luckily I think I might have found a guy that's interested, now I have to figure out how to get it off the truck without camper jacks
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - Simpler=Better - 11-26-2013
(11-26-2013, 05:54 PM)sassparilla_kid(11-26-2013, 04:23 PM)Simpler=Better(11-26-2013, 11:25 AM)willbhere4u I would just do the head gaskets forget a rebuild just check the heads for cacks and replace the valve seals and put it back on the road and enjoy
x2 it's a domestic v8-they're kind of known for being fast & loose
Lol, first things first though, gotta get the camper off, then I plan on diving into it. Luckily I think I might have found a guy that's interested, now I have to figure out how to get it off the truck without camper jacks
Air up your tires
Jack up the rear of the truck
Make a crib for the camper (this can go wrong and we don't want you to die so don't be stupid)
Lower the jack
Air down your tires
Drive off into the sunset
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - JB3 - 11-27-2013
My memory of those bed campers is they are incredibly fragile and easily breakable for their stupendous weight. Just think giant egg.
Were it me, id look around for some random camper jacks, anything to keep the forces the same as predicted where it was designed to be supported off the bed. Id be nervous about using a forklift or something like that to get rid of it.
Especially an old one, could be rotton/termite dined
(11-26-2013, 10:23 PM)Simpler=Better(11-26-2013, 05:54 PM)sassparilla_kid(11-26-2013, 04:23 PM)Simpler=Better x2 it's a domestic v8-they're kind of known for being fast & loose
Lol, first things first though, gotta get the camper off, then I plan on diving into it. Luckily I think I might have found a guy that's interested, now I have to figure out how to get it off the truck without camper jacks
Air up your tires
Jack up the rear of the truck
Make a crib for the camper (this can go wrong and we don't want you to die so don't be stupid)
Lower the jack
Air down your tires
Drive off into the sunset
Good idea, maybe a basic wooden beam crib can be whipped up to support this thing. Id x2 making it really high, but id still think about getting adjustable jacks or building an adjustable ability into the crib, you don't want to make something that makes it really hard to load in another truck with a different bed height, otherwise you'll never get rid of the thing
One thing I wouldn't do is the redneck removal. Accelerate to 30mph in reverse, slam on brakes, camper slides out of bed and explodes in an orgy of destruction. Chances are it would slide just far enough to slam down on that utility bed that you are never gonna find another of and dent it up
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 11-27-2013
I was thinking about getting some extra Mercedes style jacks ($5 at pick'n'pull) and weld some pipe to make them longer, and add some feet to keep them more stable and go that route. I think I would only use them on the front of the camper and then just use a bottle or floor jack with a board going across the bottom of the camper for the back. All the camper jacks I've seen on craigslist have been like $50 a piece for used ones, and I'm pretty sure I could find some scrap pipe or something at work I could use
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - NapaBavarian - 12-22-2013
I'm a little late to the party but I only check in bianually, if I get a job driving limos I can spend more time surfing.
Have you looked into a 6.9 turbo from an 80s Ford? The turbo kits have gotten more affordable on craigslist and all you need to do for a reliable long block is pop the heads off install new gaskets and ARP head studs, factory bolts are too small and stretch, then the oil and water mix to produce chocolate milk that'll make you spit.
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - MFSuper90 - 12-22-2013
With all the money you'll have In doing the work that the 6.9 requires you could probably swap in a cummins
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - NapaBavarian - 12-22-2013
6.9 is an International Harvester engine. I've picked up complete parts trucks with turbo for $600 and $1000, of course the $1000 truck had a complete dana 60 front axle that people ask $1200 for...probably worth closer to $800 though. Get $200 back in scrap sell some parts...even an n/a 6.9 is ok with good open intake and exhaust and a cam.
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - Simpler=Better - 12-23-2013
7.3 if you want to do it right.
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - NapaBavarian - 12-23-2013
If you get a 7.3 make sure the proper coolant with SCAs was used...research "block worm". The head bolts are bigger and dont have the stretch problem, and the valve guides and / or valve guide seals were redesigned to fix the oil consumption...of course this led to a slightly higher incidence of dropped valves...still not a big problem.
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 12-30-2013
I think if I do an engine swap of any sort it will probably be a 12 valve Cummins. Of course that's a long way off, seeing as I still haven't gotten rid of the camper lol
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - MFSuper90 - 12-30-2013
(12-23-2013, 09:36 AM)Simpler=Better 7.3 if you want to do it right.
DT360 if you wanna do it right. Closer to that trucks era, inline pump, and run pretty darn good with some fuel and a charger.
Oh yeah, and their all mechanical
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 12-31-2013
So if all goes well, I'll be getting rid of the camper tomorrow! I posted it up for free and got a shitload of emails, a guy came and checked it out, and I'm gonna take it over to him after work tomorrow
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - NapaBavarian - 01-02-2014
Second vote for a dt360. If tags and insurance weren't a deal breaker I'd get an old 4x4 f450 + and crew cab it with a dually bed and a dt466
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 01-21-2014
Alright camper is gone fixed some stuff, flushed coolant, took the truck out yesterday for my daily business and whatnot and about 25 miles from my house it refused to start again. I think I need a dt360
http://s121.photobucket.com/user/Hardpan/library/Cornbinder?sort=3&page=1
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - Simpler=Better - 01-21-2014
Starter gave up the ghost or the carb wasn't giving you the right fuel blend? Did it cough at all?
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 01-21-2014
Like it cranked and cranked and cranked and nothing happened. I'll add when I parked it after driving there was smoke coming out from under the hood. I'm actually thinking a 6bt would be the best bet, as I hear dt360's are huge, and would probably get even less mileage than the 345, whereas a Cummins could probably get like 20+mpg.
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - MFSuper90 - 01-22-2014
A dt360 would be the same size as a 6bt about, but about 300lbs heavier from what I read. In that case the dt466 is about the same as the 360. I would do a 466, to keep IH parts and to have about 100cubes on the 6bt. The 466 is the cummins of IH as far as performance. Very cery stout motors, can handle a lot of hp in stock form. Would be really fun! Torque for dayz
Edit: another fun fact is you can change the crank for even bigger cubes if I remember right, the 466 and some of it's larger counter parts use the same bore, so the only Change is stroke
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - Simpler=Better - 01-22-2014
Hit it with ether, if nothing happens it's ignition system. Good luck, and welcome to hell. Find a 50-60yr old mechanic they can show you how to fix it.
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - sassparilla_kid - 01-22-2014
Tried ether, I think it's probably the points or something. It pretty much needs an entire rebuild, it has terrible blowby, and when it was running I took the radiator cap off and the coolant was bubbling something fierce, and I can probably find a Cummins for what it would cost to rebuild the 345 or maybe even a little less.
And I would put a dt360 or dt466 in there, but I don't like the idea of 4-6 mpg, whereas I don't think 20+ would be out of the question with a 6bt
RE: Getting me a cornbinder - Simpler=Better - 01-22-2014
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