(12-16-2013, 08:41 PM)97e300 So you reckon 450HP would be a reasonable daily driver (haha)? Myna said his 7mm elements can supply up to around 600hp. What kind of turbo would be needed to let 450HP breathe? Also, BSR's 606 melted the pistons at around 500hp. Would getting the pistons coated help mitigate that issue if not a tad? Anyone have experience with piston coatings?

(12-17-2013, 12:35 AM)97e300 Good to know! So what can one do to avoid a meltdown?

(12-17-2013, 12:35 AM)97e300 So what can one do to avoid a meltdown?

(12-18-2013, 06:21 PM)swampmonkey a friend had his dynoed to 530whp before he bought it, still holding up except the gearbox 717401 broke down.
stock engine, Mynä 8mm, 3.2-3.5bar boost.

(12-20-2013, 08:26 PM)Domino81

(12-18-2013, 06:21 PM)swampmonkey a friend had his dynoed to 530whp before he bought it, still holding up except the gearbox 717401 broke down.
stock engine, Mynä 8mm, 3.2-3.5bar boost.

So how long does it run on 3,2 boost?

(12-24-2013, 07:43 AM)swampmonkey

(12-20-2013, 08:26 PM)Domino81

(12-18-2013, 06:21 PM)swampmonkey a friend had his dynoed to 530whp before he bought it, still holding up except the gearbox 717401 broke down.
stock engine, Mynä 8mm, 3.2-3.5bar boost.

So how long does it run on 3,2 boost?

untill ir revs out on that gear. he had an welded 3.69 before, but an 2.47LSD now, so perhaps the extra resistance would kill the engine, he is going back to a 3.07 and 6speed as it looks now.

il pm you a video.

(12-24-2013, 06:38 PM)Domino81

(12-24-2013, 07:43 AM)swampmonkey

(12-20-2013, 08:26 PM)Domino81 So how long does it run on 3,2 boost?

untill ir revs out on that gear. he had an welded 3.69 before, but an 2.47LSD now, so perhaps the extra resistance would kill the engine, he is going back to a 3.07 and 6speed as it looks now.

il pm you a video.

thanks, it's a cool vid but what I have asked for is for how long in time did he manage to drive it so far when tuned with the hx40 and 8mm with 3,2 bar
I have to admit, these can be tricky for differentials..

(12-25-2013, 07:54 PM)swampmonkey

(12-24-2013, 06:38 PM)Domino81

(12-24-2013, 07:43 AM)swampmonkey untill ir revs out on that gear. he had an welded 3.69 before, but an 2.47LSD now, so perhaps the extra resistance would kill the engine, he is going back to a 3.07 and 6speed as it looks now.

il pm you a video.

thanks, it's a cool vid but what I have asked for is for how long in time did he manage to drive it so far when tuned with the hx40 and 8mm with 3,2 bar
I have to admit, these can be tricky for differentials..

i think it was turned up to more like 4bar at the begining, dialed down, and peaks at around 3.4 nowdays.
lived its first life in the northern part of sweden like half a year, raced a couple of SLS AMGs and other cars, not pampered at al.
1/4 mile on 13.75seconds something 189km/h

we drove it 1200km from northern sweden to gothenburg, (highway speed)
he layed out perhaps 300km extra with rough driving, changed differential, drove 200km to trackday, raced a couple of laps, untill the gearbox broke down.

right now he is on the look for a replacement gearbox, the 717401 lost the third gear,

(12-27-2013, 02:50 PM)Domino81

(12-25-2013, 07:54 PM)swampmonkey

(12-24-2013, 06:38 PM)Domino81 thanks, it's a cool vid but what I have asked for is for how long in time did he manage to drive it so far when tuned with the hx40 and 8mm with 3,2 bar
I have to admit, these can be tricky for differentials..

i think it was turned up to more like 4bar at the begining, dialed down, and peaks at around 3.4 nowdays.
lived its first life in the northern part of sweden like half a year, raced a couple of SLS AMGs and other cars, not pampered at al.
1/4 mile on 13.75seconds something 189km/h

we drove it 1200km from northern sweden to gothenburg, (highway speed)
he layed out perhaps 300km extra with rough driving, changed differential, drove 200km to trackday, raced a couple of laps, untill the gearbox broke down.

right now he is on the look for a replacement gearbox, the 717401 lost the third gear,

Hi, thanks, it let's us think that that set up seems reliable for track days and under heavy load.. (despite the gearbox failure)..

Reliability definition may however vary depending on the period or expected distances of the test.. I'd say about reliability of unopened om606 if someone have driven it for over 50tkm with pressures of >3bar..

(12-30-2013, 04:37 AM)john Stock internals?? is there any upgrades you can buy for the 606? I was under the impression that the stock turbo 606 had the strongest internals avalibel?

(12-31-2013, 06:05 AM)swampmonkey

(12-30-2013, 04:37 AM)john Stock internals?? is there any upgrades you can buy for the 606? I was under the impression that the stock turbo 606 had the strongest internals avalibel?

seems that people change valvesprings and other stuff, just pointing out that none of those was changed or tampered with (if it was my friends car you where refering to)

(02-11-2014, 05:47 AM)shadowmaker Original bottom end seems to be very tough indeed. We are using Arrow rods, but we like to think that even original rods would do current 693bhp/1250Nm just fine. This engine did around 20 000km and wore 8 sets of rear tires before it broke and we were little surprised that it lasted so long. Car is really hard driven daily driver with tow bar and full interior. IRC our best trap on 1/4 mile was ~215kmh with no traction. Apart from bottom end, nothing is original in the engine. Best power is @7000rpm and shifting point/rev limiter @7500rpm.

Next engine will have compound turbos and we have already made very succesfull tests. I think we have enough power as it is (it burns tires up to 220kmh with dry tarmac and road legal tires), but we want it to behave like modern turbodiesel plus get rid of the smoke. We'll see how it turns out.

(02-11-2014, 10:07 AM)MFSuper90 Shadowmaster, what broke?

(02-12-2014, 12:28 PM)Tito Is there a tread somewhere on the internet of that car?