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differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - NapaBavarian - 08-20-2014
I may have an opportunity to purchace an om606.91x non turbo, what internal changes were made on the turbos? Can I add piston cooling oil jets? I'm contemplating a high performance build with an om603 turbo ip.
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - CRD4x4 - 08-21-2014
Every specific difference between turbo & NA has been listed and repeated on the forum before. Basically, you'll want/have to replace everything important if you're looking for high performance. Search and read.
It's best to just get a turbo motor and skip all the bullshitski.
I wasn't looking for one and found a sick deal. Then 2 more pop up on CList so I post them up here...no takers.
Save up $1,000 and you'll have one in <2 months (if you search).
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - barrote - 08-21-2014
water , water , water boys,
is posible to turbocherge the 606.910 , there´s just a small diferences for the .96X. and belive me it will hold.
but as another member said is better to buy a .96X , and a mechanical IP.
regards
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - Tito - 08-21-2014
The n/a engine will hold about 300hp. I wouldn't go much higher for street use. It probably can hold more but reliability would be a problem.
For racing purposes get a turbo engine. You'll need piston cooling, beefier rod etc.
Btw, I did a 0-260 or something (end of the speedo) with my turbo'd n/a 603. That was fun
it held up fine but when I got off the highway oil pressure was 0.5/1 bar.
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - Petar - 08-22-2014
The n/a OM606 has oil cooling nozzles just like the turbo.Rods and pistons are different and that's pretty much it. The n/a intake camshaft if i remember correctly is different but that doesn't matter much.If i was you I would turbocharge it for some extra power for a daily driver.But for a high perfomance build i would get a 606.96x engine.
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - maxypriest - 08-22-2014
Tito - i bet the oil was HOT! have you got an oil cooler? I'm fitting a 19 row one to try and stop the oil getting too hot.
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - Tito - 08-22-2014
yep... oil was really hot. I have everything stock. So no oil cooler or heat exchanger. it's probably oil running true the super hot turbo and not enough cooling.
are you running a n/a too? 606 do have an oil cooler right?
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - Simpler=Better - 08-22-2014
(08-22-2014, 08:13 AM)Tito yep... oil was really hot. I have everything stock. So no oil cooler or heat exchanger. it's probably oil running true the super hot turbo and not enough cooling.
are you running a n/a too? 606 do have an oil cooler right?
Oh man, get some kind of cooler on ther! The poor oil, think of the dinosaurs!
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - NapaBavarian - 08-22-2014
Thanks, I'll pass on this one, I tried searching but sometimes basic information gets burried deep in threads that seem unrelated.
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - barrote - 08-23-2014
its a bit strange , buying a 606 N/A here sems a very odd, anyhow a know a felow that bought a 617A instead of a 605.
very close to me there is a few engines in scrap yards ,turbo 606 , 05, and 04´s a lot , around 600 to 800 € , usually N/A are a lot more expensive like 1200€ , but they just dont know for sure that u can use the same IP.
dont give up so quick, the bigest wories u have is find oil suply to the turbo, but even that is easy to do.
the rest is like stealing from babies
regards
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - CRD4x4 - 08-23-2014
Yo Napa!
I found a '98 E300 turbodiesel with 240k miles running & driving but rusty. New England classic. No pix yet. $1,500
Come and get it quick!! PM me for details.
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - rafael cotrim - 08-26-2014
Here in Portugal is hard to find a healthy 606 turbo at good price.
Barrote onde estão esses motores ?
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - barrote - 08-27-2014
em lisboa, se quizeres um grita,
já sabes com garantia tb se arranjam mas quem os tem pede mais de 1200€, mas arranjam-se
.abraço.
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - rafael cotrim - 08-27-2014
Preciso de um 606 turbo para este inverno !!
Isso a garantia para mim não serve de nada visto o fim do motor.
já me pediram 1900€ por um !!
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - barrote - 08-27-2014
arranjo-lhe um por menos de 1000€ n sei em que estado está, vem cá ver e depois decide se quer ou não.
e a 1200€ há mts, 605 tem algum interesse?
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - rafael cotrim - 08-27-2014
605 não tenho interesse.
Manda-me o seu contacto de telemóvel e e-mail por pm e quando eu puder passar ai combina-se.
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - maxypriest - 08-28-2014
(08-22-2014, 08:13 AM)Tito yep... oil was really hot. I have everything stock. So no oil cooler or heat exchanger. it's probably oil running true the super hot turbo and not enough cooling.
are you running a n/a too? 606 do have an oil cooler right?
Running a turbo engine (606.962), thus it has the hoses ready for my 19 row cooler which i'm putting just behind the front spoiler. I was considering putting a 25 row cooler, however I don’t think that will fit. I don’t know if you could put a turbo filter tower on a NA engine, but you can certainly do the reverse.
RE: differences non turbo 606 and turbo? - brianw124 - 08-29-2014
I have both 605 and 606 engine conversions foe sale with auto boxes low miles 700 euros for 606 with box and 650 euros for 605 also with auto box and can deliver anywhere in the world