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w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 11-12-2014
recently took on a project for a client having a 1987 w124 300td na as a base and a 1999 w210 300d om606 turbodiesel as the donor, both automatic .
Not decided yet wheter I wil swap al of the electronics and wiring loom from the w210 or just the engine with a dieselmeken pump and a olejefer controller for the 722.6 .eitherway want to use a mechanical injection pump.
got 2 questions, wil the transmision stil function if i run a ful ecu but converted the electric pump to mechanical and manual boost control?
And where can i get Olejefers controller and what are the costs and wich signal does it need to shift.
Just have to decide witch route to go and il start building the project and ofcourse the project wil be documented and posted on here
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 11-12-2014
ive discussed it with my client and we decided to go with a om603 reworked pump and the gearbox controller,
hoping any of u can lead me to where i can buy one
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - olefejer - 11-12-2014
(11-12-2014, 01:06 PM)Sjevsspeed.nl ive discussed it with my client and we decided to go with a om603 reworked pump and the gearbox controller,I have send you a PM ;-)
hoping any of u can lead me to where i can buy one
Ole
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Tito - 11-12-2014
(11-12-2014, 01:06 PM)Sjevsspeed.nl ive discussed it with my client and we decided to go with a om603 reworked pump and the gearbox controller,
hoping any of u can lead me to where i can buy one
I would indeed definably go for the 603 dieselmeken pump. I still need to test mine but is better than electric. And they put out huuuuge amounts of fuel. I don't know if your aiming for stock power, but seeing that you consider a dieselmeken pump and the gear controller from olejefer my guess is that you are going superturbodiesel?
Which turbo are you going to use? where are you located in NL?
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 11-12-2014
hi tito, Im located in brabant , close to tilburg verry close to the belgian border.
Deffenitly aiming on higher then stock power , but first make the swap and strip al the weight out of the car and get the new power and weight on paper through rwd,
After that we can experiment with power , I have a Ebay T04 turbo witch im gonna use for mock up and testing, but probably going to a twin scroll holset or precision. thinking of trying a compound turbo setup with the stock turbo and the To4 first or maybe a twin charger setup, my client likes the supercharger sound but want to make it a driving reliable car. its going to be a daily driver for 50.000km a year
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Tito - 11-12-2014
Cool, What HP are you aiming for? I'm currently doing about the same thing. Compound with HX40s. Either charger or turbo I have not decided yet. DM-pump, BMW gearbox and so on. Looking for 500 HP.
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 11-12-2014
also between 300 and 450ish, aiming more for torque figures , just trying to stay under distructive numbers. my client has a verry heavy right foot with shoe size 50 haha
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 11-18-2014
Testfitting some 19" wheels. no problem. going on
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - rolfts - 11-19-2014
Getting some where!
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 11-19-2014
Today stripped half of the w210. had to help some clients in between. tomorow gonna pull engine and trans out and start stripping the w124 gonna get new gaskets and oil and.waterpump for the om606 before i put it in the w124
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 11-22-2014
Done stripping the w210. monday gonna put new pumps on. maybe switch sumps and see what can be used from the om603. gonna try to keep ac compressor of om603 and see wich steering pump wil work best
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 11-26-2014
Working hard on the swap. got both engines out. have to remove sls system because has a sepperate camshaft driven pump on the 603. and now mostly trying to decide witch pump to use. i know my.603 pump only has 5.5mm elements. im trying to figure out if a om606 na pump has 6mm
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - maxypriest - 11-26-2014
(11-26-2014, 06:06 AM)Sjevsspeed.nl Working hard on the swap. got both engines out. have to remove sls system because has a sepperate camshaft driven pump on the 603. and now mostly trying to decide witch pump to use. i know my.603 pump only has 5.5mm elements. im trying to figure out if a om606 na pump has 6mm
NA 606 pump (RS203) has 5.5 mm elements.
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Petar - 11-26-2014
(11-26-2014, 06:06 AM)Sjevsspeed.nl Working hard on the swap. got both engines out. have to remove sls system because has a sepperate camshaft driven pump on the 603. and now mostly trying to decide witch pump to use. i know my.603 pump only has 5.5mm elements. im trying to figure out if a om606 na pump has 6mm
You don't need to remove the SLS , you can install a tandem pump in place of the power steering pump.I think 300TE's came with that pump
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Tito - 11-26-2014
I like those wheels! Car needs some serious lowering though.
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 11-26-2014
Yup.it wil get some serious lowering and cool paintjob
We want to take the sls of . we like it stiff. also to save tome weight
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 12-07-2014
Engine in and next wewk going to make driveshaft adapterplate. new timing chain and waterpump route plumbing and vacuum lines. try to make the old 603 ip leak free and mounted to run. wire up olefeyers controller. and hope i can deliver it to the client end of the week in its first stage.
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 12-07-2014
does anyone have experience with either lowering springs or coiloivers? read somewhere that e36 coilovers where easy to mod to fit the w124?
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 12-13-2014
Got new timing chain and waterpump. had adapter plate made for the hardydisc from 6mm thick steel to use the old driveshaft for now. i can suply more if anyone needs one
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 12-15-2014
Perfect fit
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 01-01-2015
almost done. making room for al the coolers .
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - maxypriest - 01-02-2015
I can't see lots if the pics, is this a problem with my computer or have you all the same issue?
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - raysorenson - 01-02-2015
Yeah, they only work half the time in chrome. Right click, select "open image in new tab" and it always works for me.
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 01-02-2015
good to know im not the only one with this problem
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 01-02-2015
Intercooler.placement
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 02-04-2015
done , some pics
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Larotj - 02-07-2015
the pictures does not work ;-(
Phil
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 02-07-2015
yeah for some reason in chrome they dont always show up, but i can always see m when i rightclick and click on vieuw image in new tab, no idea why this happens
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 02-18-2015
Bad news . bit of a delay on the project. it was a running car. but engine seized whyle idling. need to pull engine out and appart. probably not too much damage but a big delay in time and have to research. the cause of the seize
i pulled the engine from a running e300 w210 put new timing chain on. and it startes on om603 pump
it had a knock wich seemed too be comming from the head. sounded like a stuck lifter a bit.
I had the pump set at 16 deg atdc .
ive set the pump to around 12 atdc and then adjusted idle. first 15 seconds the knok was gone but then returned. i let the enginevidle a bit but qhitin a minute it shut ofvand crank was stuck.
im going to do a lot of headflow and valvespring work. so i need to research why this happaned so it wont happen again with the rebuild engine
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 03-31-2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1AGfoYOrwg
runs good, just seems first injector is knokking, il swap it today
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Sjevsspeed.nl - 09-28-2015
finaly some progres, had some bad luck with donor engines and authoraties but everything is fine now and registered, time for dieselmeken ip, and k31 turbo
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Repetitio - 09-28-2015
very nice looking car :O
RE: w124 om606 new project in holland - Haasje - 09-28-2015
Photos of this project: http://s1089.photobucket.com/user/hahaasje/library/?sort=3&page=1
Video's of this project: https://m.youtube.com/#/channel/UCaVNwgeBwdNlvoykoutO6kA