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om603 turbo for 300hp - PedroFerreira - 03-01-2015
this turbo is good for 300 hp or near it?
specs:
- Compressor wheel: .50A/R, Inducer: 2", Exducer 3"
i whant fast spool
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - barrote - 03-01-2015
what type of turbo is that?
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - PedroFerreira - 03-01-2015
ebay turbo T3/T4 Turbocharger Turbo A/R .50 27PSI T04E
Model number T3/T4
Inlet/outlet 3"/2"
Features wet float bearings
1/8 NPT oil inlet
5 bolt standard(.58) downpipe flange
T3 flange Oil cooled
Compressor wheel: .50A/R, Inducer: 2", Exducer 3"
Turbine wheel: .63A/R, Inducer: 2.58", Exducer: 2.2"
Handles up to 375hp, 27psi
my pump will work with 120cc elements.that will be ok in my engine or the exaust will be to smal and create high egt? in om605 whith the same elements work fine
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - barrote - 03-02-2015
that is a old style garret, waste gated turbo,
if i were u, i would start looking for a vnt type turbine.
waste gate type turbines dont like to blow that much , the 27psi is absolute pressure pumping, wich u have reduce 12.3psi for ambient pressure wich leaves u in the 15psi range about 1,3 bar.
regards
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - PedroFerreira - 03-02-2015
what tipe? big holset vnt?
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - barrote - 03-02-2015
if i could lay my hands on a C30CDI one , that was my best bet . if u cant use one from 613 or 648. and change the compressor, or not.
otherwise take a Reading in this info:
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/choosing_turbo
and any info alike.
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - PedroFerreira - 03-02-2015
whith the same elements my friend use 2559v and the engine shut off because the back pressure...
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - EDH_Performance - 03-03-2015
Yes, all of the standard vnt is to small for high hp in a prechamber diesel
Must be a garrett gt35/38/40 vnt, but they are rare and difficult to controle...You have holset vnt but it is also hard to controleIf you want early boost and high hp, a well designed compound setup is the way to go I think
A small hx35 will support 300hp in a 603 and will fit stock turbo manifold
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - Turbo - 03-03-2015
(03-03-2015, 01:48 AM)EDH_Performance there are way bigger turbo like the GTA4508V vnt that is way to big for this projekt and other for that matters too, biggest problem is to understand the working of the turbo and to fit that big fysical, they are like monsters, twin ballbering turbo in the GTD clas will work fine but that is not direktly a shep solution, doublke GTB2056VL will work good, I have had in the past long time ago.
a GTB3576vklnr will easy handle 300hp can be find at ebay but if it taste it cost, if you want good trasient responce a serie turbo solution is great but way more complex to control if it going to be done in a good way or very good knowlege in turbo operating and selecting
If you do not control them in a good way they will be a pain in the a##### and can even brake the motor under wurst condition
But VNT can be fun woithout no silencer in the way they can control sound, vnt close and quite silent, floor it and scare the living dailight of people walking past you...
_"Yes, all of the standard vnt is to small for high hp in a prechamber diesel
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - PedroFerreira - 03-03-2015
gt3076 will do the job? i dont whant past 300 hp
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - EDH_Performance - 03-03-2015
(03-03-2015, 02:45 AM)Turbo(03-03-2015, 01:48 AM)EDH_Performance there are way bigger turbo like the GTA4508V vnt that is way to big for this projekt and other for that matters too, biggest problem is to understand the working of the turbo and to fit that big fysical, they are like monsters, twin ballbering turbo in the GTD clas will work fine but that is not direktly a shep solution, doublke GTB2056VL will work good, I have had in the past long time ago.
a GTB3576vklnr will easy handle 300hp can be find at ebay but if it taste it cost, if you want good trasient responce a serie turbo solution is great but way more complex to control if it going to be done in a good way or very good knowlege in turbo operating and selecting
If you do not control them in a good way they will be a pain in the a##### and can even brake the motor under wurst condition
But VNT can be fun woithout no silencer in the way they can control sound, vnt close and quite silent, floor it and scare the living dailight of people walking past you...
_"Yes, all of the standard vnt is to small for high hp in a prechamber diesel
I meant the standard vnt turbos normal people like me find, as the biggest and best is the gtb2260xxxx turbo from mb 350cdi, all the bigger ones is hard to find....
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - barrote - 03-03-2015
(03-02-2015, 04:21 PM)PedroFerreira whith the same elements my friend use 2559v and the engine shut off because the back pressure...
hy there , funny that i used to have the same problem as bruno, but my issue is gone now, my engine is burning 110cc, no issues with the EGP. no issues with EGT´s my turbo is the stock ML320CDI. and is limping now, na accident with sand.
very happy with it, f%&/$ happy. my engine just rocks from 2k to 4.5k is like a rocket.
i intend to measure power , but i can´t now!!! i have a cluch problem that i need to fix before.
i belive his problema is exaust pipe. my problema dissapeared after the complete 70cm exaust pipe, just a small 35cm mufler at the end.
no silencer , just a mufler.
any how theres a lot of solutions for the EGP problem, for instance a waste gate at EGR exit, maybe the EGR valve channeled to the exaust.
if i had a 6 cyl engine i would go with the twin solution. two of those GT20V that ussually are found in the 220CDI , and some VW/AUDI engines. in group of 3 . i dream of having a 6 cyl engine.
regards
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - EmJay - 03-03-2015
Yum, twin turbo 603
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - PedroFerreira - 03-04-2015
I whant to go the easy whay,2 vnt turbo will be nice but to expencive..i just whant to know if gt3076 will do a good job in my engine or if that will be to smal.but thanks for help
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - mao76 - 03-04-2015
gtx3071
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - Turbo - 03-04-2015
a GTB2056vl you vill find used for say 300 euro, is that to much?
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - PedroFerreira - 03-04-2015
gtx3071 that right
300 isn´t to much? 300x2,exaust manifold,exaust line... i think that is to much lool
RE: om603 turbo for 300hp - barrote - 03-04-2015
lol,
better to spend 600€ plus exaust, for a aplication wich will work than 400 for a aplication that does not work.
if u want something that work , buy a OM613 / 648 turbo, that will give u 300HP and over.
PM me for details about vane control.
regards.