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modern 6 speed manual model numbers - ak47is1337 - 04-04-2015
I have heard some here talking about the 6 speed manuals that can apparently bolt onto the OM60x engines.
Which models are these from, and what are the part numbers on those trannies? I have only seen the 2001-2003 C230K sport hatchback, but was that available in a sedan, and are there any other models that could fit? I also saw these:
(from a 2001-2003 C240 W203):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/01-02-03-MERCEDES-C240-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-203-TYPE-C240-7606198-/381123592544?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58bcbc8160&vxp=mtr
(from a 1997-2000 SLK230)
:http://www.ebay.com/itm/99-00-MERCEDES-170-TYPE-SLK230-5-SPEED-RWD-108K-MILES-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-7624-/171569352063?hash=item27f2548d7f&vxp=mtr
-this one used the exact same engine as the C230K so I think this one is promising.
(from a 2005-2011 SLK300-350):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/05-06-07-08-09-10-11-MERCEDES-SLK350-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-6408943-/231452335130?hash=item35e3a25c1a&vxp=mtr
(2006-2007 C230)
:http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-07-Mercedes-C230-Manual-Transmission-12K-OEM-LKQ-/361251524374?hash=item541c44cf16&vxp=mt
(2009 B200 - who buys these things?!):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Mercedes-Benz-B-Class-Manual-Transmission-29K-OEM-LKQ-89159993-/361244417554?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item541bd85e12&vxp=mtr
(2006-2007 C300 - I would bet on this, considering the C300 was a V6):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-07-Mercedes-C-Class-Manual-Transmission-110K-OEM-/191546408506?hash=item2c990e3e3a&vxp=mtr
Additionally, looking at some Mercedes brand manual transmission fluid, I found this:
1999-2000 C230 M/T 717.460
2002-2002 C230 M/T 716.663, 716.668
2003-2005 C230 M/T 716.605, 716.628, 716.631
2006-2007 C230 M/T 716.638
2001-2005 C240 M/T 716.623, 716.634, 716.638
2008-2011 C300 M/T 716.671
2001-2005 C320 M/T 716.660, 716.667, 716.669
2006-2011 C350 M/T 716.664
1998-2000 SLK230 M/T 717.460
2001-2004 SLK230 M/T 716.622, 716.630
2006-2008 SLK280 M/T 716.660, 716.669
2009-2011 SLK300 M/T 716.660, 716.669
2001-2004 SLK320 M/T 716.660, 716.667
2005-2008 SLK350 M/T 716.660, 716.664, 716.669
2009-2011 SLK350 M/T 716.664
Any ideas which will fit out inline 5's and 6's?
RE: modern 6 speed manual model numbers - Duncansport - 04-04-2015
(04-04-2015, 04:36 AM)ak47is1337 I have heard some here talking about the 6 speed manuals that can apparently bolt onto the OM60x engines.
Which models are these from, and what are the part numbers on those trannies? I have only seen the 2001-2003 C230K sport hatchback, but was that available in a sedan, and are there any other models that could fit? I also saw these:
(from a 2001-2003 C240 W203):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/01-02-03-MERCEDES-C240-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-203-TYPE-C240-7606198-/381123592544?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58bcbc8160&vxp=mtr
No, M112 Based
(from a 1997-2000 SLK230)
:http://www.ebay.com/itm/99-00-MERCEDES-170-TYPE-SLK230-5-SPEED-RWD-108K-MILES-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-7624-/171569352063?hash=item27f2548d7f&vxp=mtr
-this one used the exact same engine as the C230K so I think this one is promising.
Yes, M111 same bolt pattern as the M102,M103,M104,OM606,OM605,OM604,OM603,OM602,OM601
(from a 2005-2011 SLK300-350):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/05-06-07-08-09-10-11-MERCEDES-SLK350-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-6408943-/231452335130?hash=item35e3a25c1a&vxp=mtr
NO, M272
(2006-2007 C230)
:http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-07-Mercedes-C230-Manual-Transmission-12K-OEM-LKQ-/361251524374?hash=item541c44cf16&vxp=mt
NO, M271
(2009 B200 - who buys these things?!):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Mercedes-Benz-B-Class-Manual-Transmission-29K-OEM-LKQ-89159993-/361244417554?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item541bd85e12&vxp=mtr
No, FWD based
(2006-2007 C300 - I would bet on this, considering the C300 was a V6):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-07-Mercedes-C-Class-Manual-Transmission-110K-OEM-/191546408506?hash=item2c990e3e3a&vxp=mtr
No, M272
Additionally, looking at some Mercedes brand manual transmission fluid, I found this:
1999-2000 C230 M/T 717.460
2002-2002 C230 M/T 716.663, 716.668
2003-2005 C230 M/T 716.605, 716.628, 716.631
2006-2007 C230 M/T 716.638
2001-2005 C240 M/T 716.623, 716.634, 716.638
2008-2011 C300 M/T 716.671
2001-2005 C320 M/T 716.660, 716.667, 716.669
2006-2011 C350 M/T 716.664
1998-2000 SLK230 M/T 717.460
2001-2004 SLK230 M/T 716.622, 716.630
2006-2008 SLK280 M/T 716.660, 716.669
2009-2011 SLK300 M/T 716.660, 716.669
2001-2004 SLK320 M/T 716.660, 716.667
2005-2008 SLK350 M/T 716.660, 716.664, 716.669
2009-2011 SLK350 M/T 716.664
Any ideas which will fit out inline 5's and 6's?
Only the older Inline engines use the same bolt pattern as our engines. So in the US only the C230 KOMPRESSOR SLK230 KOMPRESSOR that uses the M111 will work. It is a rather terrible transmission too (incase you've never drive one)
RE: modern 6 speed manual model numbers - ak47is1337 - 04-05-2015
i was worried someone might say that lol.
thanks for your input anywho. hopefully this list will help someone
RE: modern 6 speed manual model numbers - axel606 - 04-05-2015
(04-05-2015, 03:49 AM)ak47is1337 i was worried someone might say that lol.
thanks for your input anywho. hopefully this list will help someone
i install 606a/ 605a/662a into g wagens both 460 and 463 swb and lwb models .
my personal lwb 460 g wagen has a 716.630 with the dual mass flywheel / 240mm clutch from 220 cdi merc it works perfectly and has been on the road for years - no problems .
my super G runs a 605a with a 716.606 six speed using a 220cdi f/w clutch also / excellent results /slick shift and i fit the clutch master cylinder from the donor car which gives a light positive strong clutch / i have towed big trailers etc etc.
i have tried to post pictures but it just does not work for me / pictures of the super g build is on G-wagen register.com
RE: modern 6 speed manual model numbers - hooblah - 04-05-2015
How much power is your super g putting out?
RE: modern 6 speed manual model numbers - axel606 - 04-06-2015
Plenty.
Never run on a dyno ,it has an rs 191 pump with 6 mm elements with maxed out settings .
My lwb which has a 606a with 716.630 box has been running for 5 years now , towing big heavy trailers etc .
I have no really high power engines but the boxes seem strong .
RE: modern 6 speed manual model numbers - hooblah - 04-06-2015
Reason I ask is that I also have a 716.606 which will be mates to a om606 but im not sure as to how much power it will cope with. If it's capable of holding 4-500bhp then I'll be happy as it avoids a costly mistake!
RE: modern 6 speed manual model numbers - CutWeldDrive - 04-06-2015
Hi axel606,
do you have any photo's of the master cylinder set up.
I've a 716.651 box with f/w and clutch, just curious how you got the master cylinder set up
i was just going to use the regular w460, as i know it works from talking to someone over on African forum. he's been running it for 6 months no issues with regular w40 clutch master cylinder and concentric slave.
RE: modern 6 speed manual model numbers - axel606 - 04-06-2015
hi , i cannot seem to post pictures on here they just do not load and timeout .
the 460 master cylinder does work .. but.... it makes the clutch terribly heavy and i think it also 'over travels' the concentric slave with potential for damaging the mechanism.
i will post up the alterations to fit the clk clutch master cylinder on G-register forum technical when i have some time .
my lwb has a really light positive strong clutch because i have used all the hydraulics from the donor clk 220cdi so you have a car type clutch on a g wagen - the clk master cylinder travels 30mm of stroke from pedal 'up' to pedal 'down' i make a bracket to fit the clk master cylinder so the g wagen pedal box gives exactly the same 'action'
RE: modern 6 speed manual model numbers - CutWeldDrive - 04-06-2015
Thanks Axel,
I appreciate the help,
will keep my eyes open on G-Register,
RE: modern 6 speed manual model numbers - Jambo - 01-14-2016
As CutWeldDrive said I was running the stock master cylinder, but it must be noted that it was running on the original OM603 motor i.e. 228mm flywheel and clutch.
Axel points out the it could work (assuming 240mm flywheel and clutch). I have that setup now in my G and cannot disengage the clutch properly. I'm not sure what the difference is in the "donor" car master clutch cylinder and the G cylinder but the difference must be in the stroke as the diameter is exactly the same ie 19.05mm.
Mike I have sent you a mail for details, but would be very grateful for pictures on GWagenRegister.
PS. Part numbers for clutch master cylinders for G: KG 190027.1.1 make: FTE and
C220CDI: KG 190062.0.0 make: FTE