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Could I be using all my fuel? - TurboTim - 09-30-2015
With my HE351VE I am getting no smoke and EGT's around 650c if I held it long time it would probably make it to 700c. I have fuel screw maxed out in my Dieselmeken 7.5mm pump. Is it time for an upgrade? Could I be using all the fuel?
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - TurboTim - 09-30-2015
I should mention this is only on 30# but I do have cams so maybe more air gets into motor.
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - erx - 10-01-2015
What cc pump and hp do you have at the moment? I have 7,5mm 180cc with HX40 which I belive is about the same size as HE351VE and it made 433WHP with 3bar boost and a lot of black smoke. Engine is 100% stock. HX40 is too small for 180cc pump which should make 600hp when maxed out.
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - TurboTim - 10-01-2015
That's what I figured. Maybe I need to replace my lift pump or run more pressure. I have an eBay 044 I can try.
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - minim - 10-01-2015
Just a noob question here. When you say 7.5mm with 180cc is there different versions for different CC? Thought that the CC was adjustable on the screws?
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - erx - 10-01-2015
I'm not sure what are the differences but there are also 160cc 7,5mm pumps from dieselmeken, If you say you want to build engine max 400hp then maybe dieselmeken makes some internal adjustments to cc because you don't need 180cc or something like that. The other thing is profile or type of element.
My friend has two 8mm pumps, 150cc and 200cc. He said he wants pump for max 350hp and dieselmeken made 150cc pump.
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - TurboTim - 10-01-2015
I thought with the external adjustment they were all the same. You just adjusted the Allen on the outside for rack travel.
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - minim - 10-02-2015
(10-01-2015, 10:12 PM)TurboTim I thought with the external adjustment they were all the same. You just adjusted the Allen on the outside for rack travel.
Me to! Hope we can some answers to this
I got my 7.5mm set for around 250hp from dieselmeken but I thought I could just increase the amount of diesel if I swapped my turbo later on for something bigger.
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - erx - 10-02-2015
If you ordered pump from dieselmeken and you don't know what max cc you get then look what numbers are stamped in on top of the pump. There are element size and cc.
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - barrote - 10-03-2015
the cc output is dependent on the gov setings and type of governor, as far as i know dieselmeken uses 2 types of 7.5 and 1 8mm.
a 8mm can be 90cc. or 200cc depend on what u asked. turning the screws out wont make a 150cc into a 180cc.
the governor play a huge rule on that.
nevertheless 150cc should get u going with 350hp or more in a 5 cyl. 450 in a 6cyl, the rest is ruled by what mods u have and how they are working overall.
regards
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - minim - 10-03-2015
Does it have to go in again for increasing the CC or can this be done without retuning the pump in bench? I'm sorry for asking questions in your thread OP but it's kinda on topic :p
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - barrote - 10-03-2015
yep bench is needed, usually people ask as much as it can... and then u can restrict by pedal
or other means , there are many.... r
regards
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - TurboTim - 10-03-2015
I just read my emails from deiselmeken....
Can you make my pump good for 450hp? How much fuel will your pump supply with no pressure to the ALDA if I went that route sometimes for mileage?
Yes I can do 450hp, but then you need 8 mm elements. I set fuel to around 55-60cc at low fuel and around 120cc at max when I deliver pump. You can easy adjust it up on the outside ALDA.
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - minim - 10-04-2015
So that is conflicting info.. Does it then mean that you can increase it or not?
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - erx - 10-04-2015
I belive it means that you can increase it to the max cc that pump is set to internally. When max cc is 150 then with maxed out alda it makes 150cc and 180cc pump makes 180cc, you can't get more because it is internally limited I belive.
If dieselmeken sends you 180cc pump it's usually set a little lower from ALDA and if you screw the alda to maximum it makes 180cc. I belive dieselmeken was meaning that.
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - minim - 10-09-2015
I checked with dieselmeken regarding my pump that is set for approx 250hp since I'm going to use a Holset HX30W now but I'm thinking about ugprading for a bigger VNT turbo later on and then I want to increase the diesel amount. He said that he noted how much he set it to but that it was easy to adjust it later on the screws on the outside. I then asked if I could pull out 160cc if I adjusted the screws on the outside and that could easy be done with the screws on the outside he told me.. This is exactly what I wanted so I'm happy now
Just posted to inform others with meken pump.
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - deviance - 10-12-2015
Have you AC PUMP? That's helped me a little.
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - erx - 10-12-2015
Let's make it clear, if you have dieselmeken pump then you have numbers stamped in to your pump like on this picture under. You can see there 8,0mm and 150cc. Numbers of cc vary depending on what horsepower you told dieselmeken you are looking for, for example I have 7,5mm 180cc stamped in on the same place. To make it sure first look what numbers you have there.
If you screw alda out then pump makes cc you have stamped in, pump on the picture has 8mm elements/150cc and if you screw alda out then pump makes 150cc not 180 or 220. Ofcourse there are 180, 200 and 220cc pumps but they are for 600hp and up.
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RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - TurboTim - 10-12-2015
(10-12-2015, 05:09 AM)erx Let's make it clear, if you have dieselmeken pump then you have numbers stamped in to your pump like on this picture under. You can see there 8,0mm and 150cc. Numbers of cc vary depending on what horsepower you told dieselmeken you are looking for, for example I have 7,5mm 180cc stamped in on the same place. To make it sure first look what numbers you have there.
If you screw alda out then pump makes cc you have stamped in, pump on the picture has 8mm elements/150cc and if you screw alda out then pump makes 150cc not 180 or 220. Ofcourse there are 180, 200 and 220cc pumps but they are for 600hp and up.
Look what Minim posted though so that may not be true.
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - erx - 10-12-2015
Minim should look what numbers he has on the pump.
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - barrote - 10-12-2015
leave them , is pointless ,
some of this people belives a bosch 6mm 553 element can put out 150cc.
regards folks... no black smoke !!! fuel is being burned
RE: Could I be using all my fuel? - minim - 10-14-2015
(10-12-2015, 06:31 AM)erx Minim should look what numbers he has on the pump.
I could always do that but I didn't make up the info in my post above this was what Göran (dieselmeken) himself said to me when I asked about my pump with 7.5mm elements installed now a few months ago. I actually choose to believe him ^^