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Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - AlpinaM30B35 - 02-01-2016
Does anyone have a set of (6) 28mm rods available in stock? F-tune is out
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - viking1 - 02-01-2016
I'm looking for a set myself; its a little frustrating. I emailed these guys (who I think might be the supplier), but no reply as of yet.
http://www.autoverdi.com/rods.html
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - barrote - 02-01-2016
whats wrong with the stock ones? too heavy?
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - hents99 - 02-01-2016
SPM should have them in Sweden.
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - m1tch - 02-01-2016
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/showthread.php?tid=5520
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - viking1 - 02-01-2016
(02-01-2016, 04:52 PM)m1tch http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/showthread.php?tid=5520
Arrow doesn't have them in stock anymore either. Here's their answer to my inquiry for a custom order of six; 7 week timeframe and mucho dinaro (Kroner, dollars, sheckels, etc)......
"just set of six of these rods would be pretty expensive, rough estimate I would say that set price would be more than 2000USD.
Cant say "sure" price to set of six today, as we made those in sets of ten /60rods or atleast 18rods/ 3sets at the time.
in case of order 18rods price would be around 1750usd per set of 6. As special made forging and special desing we made this in past with Arrow, its not cheap one".
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - hooblah - 02-01-2016
http://m.alibaba.com/product/60381290321/For-Mercedes-om605-om601-om602-om603.html?spm=a2706.7843299.1998817009.1.ueyCkp
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - Duncansport - 02-02-2016
(02-01-2016, 09:16 PM)hooblah http://m.alibaba.com/product/60381290321/For-Mercedes-om605-om601-om602-om603.html?spm=a2706.7843299.1998817009.1.ueyCkp
I had seen those too....
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - m1tch - 02-02-2016
I was tempted to see if anyone wanted to group buy them, but considering the stock turbo rods are really good I don't see an issue with my engine - its probably why there aren't really many aftermarket options for the engine as the OEM parts are so strong.
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - AlpinaM30B35 - 02-02-2016
(02-01-2016, 09:16 PM)hooblah http://m.alibaba.com/product/60381290321/For-Mercedes-om605-om601-om602-om603.html?spm=a2706.7843299.1998817009.1.ueyCkp
I fear the $30 chinaman rod
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - viking1 - 02-02-2016
(02-01-2016, 09:16 PM)hooblah http://m.alibaba.com/product/60381290321/For-Mercedes-om605-om601-om602-om603.html?spm=a2706.7843299.1998817009.1.ueyCkp
Hooblah, have you used these rods in a build?
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - viking1 - 02-02-2016
(02-02-2016, 08:01 AM)m1tch I was tempted to see if anyone wanted to group buy them, but considering the stock turbo rods are really good I don't see an issue with my engine - its probably why there aren't really many aftermarket options for the engine as the OEM parts are so strong.
I'm thinking there is a reason the OM606 is known as "the rod-bender" once you start to get into the HP upper echelons though....
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - hents99 - 02-02-2016
(02-02-2016, 08:49 AM)AlpinaM30B35(02-01-2016, 09:16 PM)hooblah http://m.alibaba.com/product/60381290321/For-Mercedes-om605-om601-om602-om603.html?spm=a2706.7843299.1998817009.1.ueyCkp
I fear the $30 chinaman rod
Don`t know diesels but I have used China made (K1, SPM, PPF, Eagle etc) rods in petrol engines. Same rods but brand name on it. 200-250hp per cylinder without any problems.
Diesel torq is bit different with same HP number of course.
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - atypicalguy - 02-02-2016
(02-01-2016, 12:59 PM)viking1 I'm looking for a set myself; its a little frustrating. I emailed these guys (who I think might be the supplier), but no reply as of yet.They quoted me $300 per rod to my specification quantity five about a year ago.
http://www.autoverdi.com/rods.html
I think this is every bit as good and probably better than Arrow. Apparently quite a following here in the US among the drag racing crowd. Some special alloy developed with Audi.
$1800 sounds fair considering it is a custom forging.
But then again I don't know any examples of bent factory rods in a 606 turbo unless the motor hydro-locked, in which case something is going to break either the rod or the crank or the block. So I would just use the factory item unless cost is no object and you are really pushing the limits.
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - hooblah - 02-02-2016
(02-02-2016, 09:08 AM)viking1(02-01-2016, 09:16 PM)hooblah http://m.alibaba.com/product/60381290321/For-Mercedes-om605-om601-om602-om603.html?spm=a2706.7843299.1998817009.1.ueyCkp
Hooblah, have you used these rods in a build?
Lol no I just thought someone might be interested
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - viking1 - 02-02-2016
(02-02-2016, 02:17 PM)atypicalguy(02-01-2016, 12:59 PM)viking1 I'm looking for a set myself; its a little frustrating. I emailed these guys (who I think might be the supplier), but no reply as of yet.They quoted me $300 per rod to my specification quantity five about a year ago.
http://www.autoverdi.com/rods.html
I think this is every bit as good and probably better than Arrow. Apparently quite a following here in the US among the drag racing crowd. Some special alloy developed with Audi.
$1800 sounds fair considering it is a custom forging.
But then again I don't know any examples of bent factory rods in a 606 turbo unless the motor hydro-locked, in which case something is going to break either the rod or the crank or the block. So I would just use the factory item unless cost is no object and you are really pushing the limits.
Definitely pushing the limits on this one; Goran's 8mm superpump on the shelf lying in wait :-). Unless I can get a reply from autoverdi (nothing yet), I will either be bending the stock ones or testing the chinaman rod's mettle......
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - hooblah - 02-02-2016
Test the China ones!!!
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - MFSuper90 - 02-02-2016
Why not billet rods?
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - viking1 - 02-02-2016
(02-02-2016, 09:17 PM)MFSuper90 Why not billet rods?
Can you post a link to a source?
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - MFSuper90 - 02-03-2016
I have no source or link. But all it would take is a stock rod sent to a machinist. Obviously it's a little more complex than that, but when talking about $500/ rod, I'd think it could be a viable option
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - tgg416 - 02-03-2016
Here its a norwegian company
http://www.turbofun.no/performance/bilspesifikt/mercedes/om606.html
Price is 5190kroner, thats about 600$ or 550€
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - atypicalguy - 02-03-2016
(02-02-2016, 06:35 PM)viking1Who did you call?(02-02-2016, 02:17 PM)atypicalguy(02-01-2016, 12:59 PM)viking1 I'm looking for a set myself; its a little frustrating. I emailed these guys (who I think might be the supplier), but no reply as of yet.They quoted me $300 per rod to my specification quantity five about a year ago.
http://www.autoverdi.com/rods.html
I think this is every bit as good and probably better than Arrow. Apparently quite a following here in the US among the drag racing crowd. Some special alloy developed with Audi.
$1800 sounds fair considering it is a custom forging.
But then again I don't know any examples of bent factory rods in a 606 turbo unless the motor hydro-locked, in which case something is going to break either the rod or the crank or the block. So I would just use the factory item unless cost is no object and you are really pushing the limits.
Definitely pushing the limits on this one; Goran's 8mm superpump on the shelf lying in wait :-). Unless I can get a reply from autoverdi (nothing yet), I will either be bending the stock ones or testing the chinaman rod's mettle......
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - atypicalguy - 02-03-2016
(02-02-2016, 09:17 AM)viking1(02-02-2016, 08:01 AM)m1tch I was tempted to see if anyone wanted to group buy them, but considering the stock turbo rods are really good I don't see an issue with my engine - its probably why there aren't really many aftermarket options for the engine as the OEM parts are so strong.
I'm thinking there is a reason the OM606 is known as "the rod-bender" once you start to get into the HP upper echelons though....
Who calls the om606 the "rod bender"? Are you transplanting a 603?
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - AlpinaM30B35 - 02-04-2016
(02-03-2016, 05:28 PM)atypicalguy(02-02-2016, 09:17 AM)viking1(02-02-2016, 08:01 AM)m1tch I was tempted to see if anyone wanted to group buy them, but considering the stock turbo rods are really good I don't see an issue with my engine - its probably why there aren't really many aftermarket options for the engine as the OEM parts are so strong.
I'm thinking there is a reason the OM606 is known as "the rod-bender" once you start to get into the HP upper echelons though....
Who calls the om606 the "rod bender"? Are you transplanting a 603?
Ain't nobody got time for 603.97x motors!
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - atypicalguy - 02-04-2016
His other thread is all about transplanting a 603.
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - AlpinaM30B35 - 02-04-2016
(02-04-2016, 07:18 PM)atypicalguy His other thread is all about transplanting a 603.
Yeah a .961 into a C124
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - viking1 - 02-05-2016
(02-04-2016, 07:18 PM)atypicalguy His other thread is all about transplanting a 603.
I thought the 603 cooked heads, while the 606 bent rods. It turns out supposedly the 603 does both (my mistake).
The 1990 OM603 300C"D" lives...... :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2UNefU2gFI&feature=youtu.be
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - viking1 - 02-05-2016
(02-04-2016, 08:31 AM)AlpinaM30B35(02-03-2016, 05:28 PM)atypicalguy(02-02-2016, 09:17 AM)viking1 I'm thinking there is a reason the OM606 is known as "the rod-bender" once you start to get into the HP upper echelons though....
Who calls the om606 the "rod bender"? Are you transplanting a 603?
Ain't nobody got time for 603.97x motors!
Don't make me come over there!!!
RE: Source for 606.962 Forged rods? - tgg416 - 02-20-2016
(02-03-2016, 04:02 PM)tgg416 Here its a norwegian company
http://www.turbofun.no/performance/bilspesifikt/mercedes/om606.html
Price is 5190kroner, thats about 600$ or 550€
No one thinking of this rods ? Price is for a set of 6