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Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-29-2016
The turbo looks nice and everything looks like it was well done. They even machined the silencer ring so it looks more like a ported housing. Now for the results...
So I am open to ideas. Still only 30psi. My thoughts are I am burning all my fuel or exhaust maybe too restrictive at full 3 inch. My pump says 160cc on it and is turned up all the way. Not sure where I should go at this point. Sell off turbo and go HX52 or try 4 inch exhaust. I may also try messing with my cams because I do have bigger cams and I think advancing them may help a bit. Im going to keep testing and trying. I will read EGP after the turbo and see. If its a bunch I will go full 4 and see if that helps. I may try dropping half of it and see if that help.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - Duncansport - 07-29-2016
I'm seeing about 38 PSI max on my 605 with 150cc fuel.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-29-2016
What is your setup?
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - Duncansport - 07-29-2016
(07-29-2016, 10:24 PM)TurboTim What is your setup?
HE351CW, long tube header, ported wastegate. Not sure is the gate is creeping open limiting my boost or i just dont have enough fuel
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - [486] - 07-29-2016
Give us some data other than "still only 30 psi"
EGT, amount of black smoke while at full boost, the exhaust manifold pressure when you're making 30 PSI in the intake
are the ones I'd call the most useful in telling you what you need to do next
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - seanyt - 07-30-2016
What's exhaust pressure like with it now.
Even forcing veins closed more won't build more boost now?
Also has spool changed much with new turbine
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-30-2016
(07-29-2016, 10:35 PM)Duncansport(07-29-2016, 10:24 PM)TurboTim What is your setup?
HE351CW, long tube header, ported wastegate. Not sure is the gate is creeping open limiting my boost or i just dont have enough fuel
Not really the same turbo.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-30-2016
(07-30-2016, 02:29 AM)seanyt What's exhaust pressure like with it now.
Even forcing veins closed more won't build more boost now?
Also has spool changed much with new turbine
Its hard to tell if spool changed since it has been so long.
Forcing vanes closed more just backs up system and makes less boost and just higher EGP.
Maybe I am just burning all my fuel. Its a 160cc pump or at least that is what its stamped with.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - MFSuper90 - 07-30-2016
What's egts? And does it smoke at WOT
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-30-2016
EGT's are at 700 to 750c as far as I can tell not much smoke under boost.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - JVance - 07-30-2016
(07-30-2016, 08:42 AM)TurboTim ...as far as I can tell not much smoke under boost.
You're out of fuel.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-30-2016
Anyone want a good deal on an 8mm injector pump then?
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - seanyt - 07-30-2016
Surely 160cc is plenty of fuel for this turbo.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-30-2016
(07-30-2016, 10:08 AM)JVanceNot according to this guy(07-30-2016, 08:42 AM)TurboTim ...as far as I can tell not much smoke under boost.
You're out of fuel.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - seanyt - 07-30-2016
Some notes from muuris also an om606 he351ve
He351V/OM606
-38mm wg, 110cc IP setting, 3,5" dp, 3" exhaust, 1,8bar boost, (backpressure not listed), 381hp
-46mm wg, 130cc, stiffer valve springs, electric fuel pump, 2,5bar boost, 3,0bar backpressure, 390hp
-same as previous, 2,4bar boost, 2,8bar backpressure, 396hp
-150cc, full 3,5" exhaust, 2,0bar boost, 2,8bar backpressure, 388hp
-130cc, 2,0bar boost, 2,8bar backpressure, 402hp
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - seanyt - 07-30-2016
It does sound like your out of fuel but maybe not using
The full 160cc. What's it revving to?
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-30-2016
6k to 7k the hp stays pretty much same.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-30-2016
Maybe Dieselmeken set mine up to not put out as much fuel up top since I had a 603 at the time.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - NZScott - 07-31-2016
Dieselmekens "older" elements need like 40 psi to work full output at high rpm, do you know what your fuel pressure is?
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - CRD4x4 - 07-31-2016
(07-30-2016, 10:22 AM)TurboTim Anyone want a good deal on an 8mm injector pump then?
PM me if you're serious. A "good deal" is what I'm looking for. Maybe even trade if.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - erx - 07-31-2016
(07-30-2016, 10:09 PM)TurboTim Maybe Dieselmeken set mine up to not put out as much fuel up top since I had a 603 at the time.
Is ALDA max fuel screw turned to max position? Is it smoking when 2bar?
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - MFSuper90 - 07-31-2016
I would say something with your fuel is lacking. 700c is not hot, and if it's burning fairly clean I'd say it's out of fuel. 160cc is a fair amount, but not a lot. Have you confirmed its at full fuel?
Have you tried throwing more timing at it? That will put some more heat into it
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-31-2016
Yep ALDA is maxed and fuel screw is also. I did take the back cover off at one point when I was trying to raise the rev max gov RPM to 7k. I did what Goran said but sometimes he isnt the most clear all the time. Maybe I need to mess with tq control capsule?
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-31-2016
(07-31-2016, 07:31 AM)erx(07-30-2016, 10:09 PM)TurboTim Maybe Dieselmeken set mine up to not put out as much fuel up top since I had a 603 at the time.
Is ALDA max fuel screw turned to max position? Is it smoking when 2bar?
(07-31-2016, 07:47 AM)MFSuper90 I would say something with your fuel is lacking. 700c is not hot, and if it's burning fairly clean I'd say it's out of fuel. 160cc is a fair amount, but not a lot. Have you confirmed its at full fuel?
Have you tried throwing more timing at it? That will put some more heat into it
I think my EGT's are so low because I was spraying nitrous at the same time.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - hooblah - 07-31-2016
What's your emp at 30psi?
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-31-2016
Pretty close to 30
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - MFSuper90 - 07-31-2016
(07-31-2016, 08:47 AM)TurboTim(07-31-2016, 07:31 AM)erx(07-30-2016, 10:09 PM)TurboTim Maybe Dieselmeken set mine up to not put out as much fuel up top since I had a 603 at the time.
Is ALDA max fuel screw turned to max position? Is it smoking when 2bar?
(07-31-2016, 07:47 AM)MFSuper90 I would say something with your fuel is lacking. 700c is not hot, and if it's burning fairly clean I'd say it's out of fuel. 160cc is a fair amount, but not a lot. Have you confirmed its at full fuel?
Have you tried throwing more timing at it? That will put some more heat into it
I think my EGT's are so low because I was spraying nitrous at the same time.
That could be it. The laughing gas will do funny things
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-31-2016
Has anyone personally experimented with a wideband on diesel or even a cheap narrow band?
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-31-2016
I looked yesterday when accelerating and its hard to say but at 80mph there isnt a lot of smoke....really just a hint.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-31-2016
Well I turned my the torque control capsule to the point of run away and turned it back about half turn. I think it was about 1.5 turns total. Will report back with what happens.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - barrote - 07-31-2016
got litle to do with the element , old vs new ...
after 4500engine rpm , superpumps need some extra´s like main galery presurization, and so on... a 160cc pump at 1000 pump rpm might not deliver 160cc at 3000 pump RPM unless force feed...
but i dont think that is the problema of turbo tim , it might well be the set up , or some simple thing as a leak ...
but anyhow having 2 bar in a single set up , is not that bad...
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-31-2016
Woohoo! 38psi! It also smokes way more at part throttle witch is weird. Shall I try turning up max fuel now also?
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-31-2016
Woohoo! 38psi! It also smokes way more at part throttle which is weird. Shall I try turning up max fuel now also?
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - TurboTim - 07-31-2016
I should also mention since someone asked....fuel pressure is 10psi and goes up on 1 to 1 under boost so should be roughly 48 psi.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - seanyt - 08-01-2016
Videos or it didn't happen haha.
Good progress, worth a dyno run soon.
RE: Results of my HE351VE..... - ProjectNotSlow - 02-27-2021
I know this is old but I had hx35 not building much boost took the turbo off a few times and looked for boost or exhaust leaks took a month to find out it was my fuel filter needed replacing. After new filter 38psi and breaking tires loose at 50mph.