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Help me adjust my setup on my OM606 - hummermaniac88 - 04-04-2017
Hi guys,
So my OM606 swap works in my W463, runs and drives fine, makes decent power.
Currently here is my setup:
- OM603 8MM elements 220cc
- Holset HX40W - Boosting around 2.3 bar (34PSI)
Now here is my issues rendering me unsatisfied as a daily driver.
- Turbo Lag
- Mega black smoke blocking out traffic behind
My thinking to eliminate the above are the following:
- Smaller turbo
- Switch back to my OM606 EDC pump and tune using Baldur's DSL1 ECU
I would like to achieve the following:
- 350 to 400 RELIABLE HP
- Have minimal turbo lag
- Have a smooth idle (I sound like I have cams now)
What would be the ideal turbo I should go for? Holset HX35W? Holset HX35/HY30 hybrid? VGT? Which VGT or VNT turbo?
Whats the CC I should tune on the EDC pump? 90cc, 100cc or what cc? How many CCs are my stock 6mm elements good for?
Thanks guys.
RE: Help me adjust my setup on my OM606 - hummermaniac88 - 04-05-2017
Anyone?
RE: Help me adjust my setup on my OM606 - CRD4x4 - 04-05-2017
(04-05-2017, 08:39 AM)hummermaniac88 Anyone?
If I were you I'd run twin turbos, preferably smaller VNT/VGT and keep your mechanical pump.
You'd need a custom exhaust manifold but that's nothing outrageously expensive.
I got (2) Garrett GT2256V turbos from Sprinters that I hope to do this with someday.
RE: Help me adjust my setup on my OM606 - hummermaniac88 - 04-05-2017
The mechanical pump is too smokey for my taste. I heard the electronic pump is very tunable and has great smoke control with Baldur's ecu. I have a top Mount manifold with a T4 outlet, wonder what I can do with that for a twin turbo.
RE: Help me adjust my setup on my OM606 - erx - 04-05-2017
First you need 7.5mm elements, doesn't matter if mech or EDC pump. 8mm is for 600hp+ and with less power than that it's pointless to use them. Just making crazy knocking noise and more smoke. You need maybe 140cc for 400hp but you get 180-190cc from 7.5mm pump. It doesn't matter how big turbo you have, with baldur ecu and right setting you are smokeless or almost smokeless anyway.
Read this thread also: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/showthread.php?tid=7662
RE: Help me adjust my setup on my OM606 - hummermaniac88 - 04-05-2017
(04-05-2017, 10:56 AM)erx First you need 7.5mm elements, doesn't matter if mech or EDC pump. 8mm is for 600hp+ and with less power than that it's pointless to use them. Just making crazy knocking noise and more smoke. You need maybe 140cc for 400hp but you get 180-190cc from 7.5mm pump. It doesn't matter how big turbo you have, with baldur ecu and right setting you are smokeless or almost smokeless anyway.
Read this thread also: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/showthread.php?tid=7662
TThanks for the input. That is actually my thread and it kind of turned into the way of telling my setup is bad. I know that, I want to know suggestions regarding improvement.
RE: Help me adjust my setup on my OM606 - erx - 04-05-2017
Sorry I didn't notice that it was your thread. I made 370hp with HY35 and small 8cm housing, I've had both HX40 and HY35 and HY35 spooled way better than HX40, not even comparable. But 8cm housing is small, egt was too high but it works. Maybe HE351W with 12 housing like on this car: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/showthread.php?tid=6020
RE: Help me adjust my setup on my OM606 - awsrock - 04-05-2017
6mm should be good for 90-95cc, but that won't get you to 350hp, maybe 280.
What is your budget? BW S200SX is cheap new but you need an external wastegate. Smaller compressors but flow a lot of air and have a choice of turbine housings
RE: Help me adjust my setup on my OM606 - hummermaniac88 - 04-06-2017
Thanks for the input guys. Sounds like I need to get a 7mm element pump to get my goal.
RE: Help me adjust my setup on my OM606 - awsrock - 04-06-2017
I forgot to add, if you search Muuris on here he has a post documenting dyno runs with a HE351ve. Made 402 hp with 130cc, then switched to a Masterpower 58mm and got 446. He and erx seem to have hit the dyno the most!
RE: Help me adjust my setup on my OM606 - hummermaniac88 - 04-06-2017
Do you know what bar or psi was he running at? I want low end power to ease the drive around town
RE: Help me adjust my setup on my OM606 - awsrock - 04-06-2017
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/showthread.php?tid=6208&pid=70071#pid70071
It is post #9, don't know if the link will take you there.
RE: Help me adjust my setup on my OM606 - hummermaniac88 - 04-08-2017
Ok so let's say I go for a HE341VE and put my OM606 pump back, what should my cc be at to reach my goals?