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Tools - JB3 - 11-29-2009
I was very irritated to discover that the craftsman 'easy to see' etched sockets are extremely hard to return under the lifetime clause when the etching wears away and the socket is otherwise undamaged.
At that point, they won't let your return it for another, and it basically drops out of lifetime replacement since you can no longer prove where it came from.
This development has caused me to rethink my entire 'quantity vs quality' tool strategy.
I would love to have all snap on tools instead of just about 20%, but honestly, the craftsman stuff is reasonably durable, and easier to get at any time. The price difference is just so much that im not willing to spend 300% more money for a lot of basic hand tools that cheaper brands can do almost as well. If it breaks sooner, so be it, it was 10 bucks vs 110. I usually buy snap on for air and specialty tools. Now though, Im considering whoring out to stanley instead of craftsman for a lot of basic stuff.
As an experiment, about 8 months ago I bought some basic stanley tools from walmart and have been using them daily. Im actually pretty impressed with how well they have held up, the ratchet actually has far better finish and feel than the craftsman stuff, and I have tried daily to break it, not yet so far.
I was doing some research, and I was interested to find out that stanley has actually owned mac since the 80s. Im not sure if production and finish quality has come over into stuff you can get from walmart for $10.99 in that time, but it certainly seems to be holding up. Anyone have any input on stanley automotive tools?
RE: Tools - ForcedInduction - 11-29-2009
(11-29-2009, 12:35 PM)dropnosky I was very irritated to discover that the craftsman 'easy to see' etched sockets are extremely hard to return under the lifetime clause when the etching wears away and the socket is otherwise undamaged.
At that point, they won't let your return it for another, and it basically drops out of lifetime replacement since you can no longer prove where it came from.
Those bean counters are smart aren't they?
RE: Tools - JB3 - 11-29-2009
Yeah! what an irritatingly shrewd move.
When I bought them I was like everyone else with the "Wow, so easy to read!" Couple years of use go by, it wears away and what do you have? Ive retired most of the worn ones to my junkyard tool set complete with sharpie or nail polish markings now.
RE: Tools - SurfRodder - 11-30-2009
my 13mm deep gets quite a bit of use and has the super-whamo-dyne laser etched bs worn completely away... if it ever breaks and the sales pansy wont gimme a new one, ill throw it at the wall and leave the f'n store...
RE: Tools - 300SD81 - 11-30-2009
and thats why I'm sticking to harbor freight
stuff usually breaks before I've had it for a year, but its cheap and theres a lifetime warranty. no questions asked when I shattered a standard socket using it on an impact wrench...
RE: Tools - winmutt - 12-01-2009
I spend good money on some things. Everything else HF. I have yet to have a single HF tool break on me unexpectedly.
RE: Tools - kamel - 12-01-2009
Snap-on at the shop, craftsman in the garage, stanley in the field. Just a heads up, Kobalt wrenches and sockets are made with the same toolings and materials from the same manufacturer as Snap-on.