Boost and EGT combo gauges
Boost and EGT combo gauges
01-28-2010, 12:34 PM
#1
The dual gauge from Spa looks interesting but the name is impossible to search for on STD without getting a flood of posts on SPAcers.
Spa dual is 450 and includes the senders. Has alert and logging capabilities.
BD x monitor looks interesting but would be more expensive since it doesn't come with senders (edit - Just talked with BD. the price does include all senders so it's about the same price as the spa dual gauge)
westach makes a good unit (very old-school looking)- no extra features and it's just the gauge so it's probably going to cost the same as the other units once installed.
This post was last modified: 01-28-2010, 01:44 PM by Syncro_G.
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
I'm looking for a combo gauge and was wondering what others here are using.
The dual gauge from Spa looks interesting but the name is impossible to search for on STD without getting a flood of posts on SPAcers.
Spa dual is 450 and includes the senders. Has alert and logging capabilities.
BD x monitor looks interesting but would be more expensive since it doesn't come with senders (edit - Just talked with BD. the price does include all senders so it's about the same price as the spa dual gauge)
westach makes a good unit (very old-school looking)- no extra features and it's just the gauge so it's probably going to cost the same as the other units once installed.
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
01-28-2010, 02:12 PM
#2
This post was last modified: 01-28-2010, 02:12 PM by willbhere4u.
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Image(s)1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
01-28-2010, 02:12 PM #2I'm running plain vdo egt and boost and an oil temp myself
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Image(s)1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
01-28-2010, 06:18 PM
#3
http://flashoffroad.com/Accessories/Gaug...st/EGT.htm
ForcedInduction
01-28-2010, 06:18 PM
#3
I think Westach is what you're looking for.
http://flashoffroad.com/Accessories/Gaug...st/EGT.htm
01-28-2010, 10:03 PM
#4
(01-28-2010, 02:12 PM)willbhere4u I'm running plain vdo egt and boost and an oil temp myself
multiple gauges are great - I just don't have the dash space and still need to a fit battery monitor somewhere. Also am trying to keep it really non-techy.
(01-28-2010, 06:18 PM)forcedinduction I think Westach is what you're looking for.
http://flashoffroad.com/Accessories/Gaug...st/EGT.htm
It's definitly the most old school. I just wish it were back lit. Though not essential, I like that the alarms and logging that the other two offer.
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
(01-28-2010, 02:12 PM)willbhere4u I'm running plain vdo egt and boost and an oil temp myself
multiple gauges are great - I just don't have the dash space and still need to a fit battery monitor somewhere. Also am trying to keep it really non-techy.
(01-28-2010, 06:18 PM)forcedinduction I think Westach is what you're looking for.
http://flashoffroad.com/Accessories/Gaug...st/EGT.htm
It's definitly the most old school. I just wish it were back lit. Though not essential, I like that the alarms and logging that the other two offer.
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
01-28-2010, 11:14 PM
#5
and what do you mean by non-techy?
When I'm done it will look factory! That is a stock gauge pod from a vw golf!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
01-28-2010, 11:14 PM #5Did you check out the gauge setup on this 300sd looks really cool but expensive!
and what do you mean by non-techy?
When I'm done it will look factory! That is a stock gauge pod from a vw golf!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
01-29-2010, 02:02 AM
#6
(01-28-2010, 11:14 PM)willbhere4u Did you check out the gauge setup on this 300sd looks really cool but expensive!
and what do you mean by non-techy?
When I'm done it will look factory! That is a stock gauge pod from a vw golf!
Was there supposed to be a link or do you mean the VW MKII pod?
I like it (have been a VW fan for a long time) but I don't have that kind of space. The truck doesn't have much of a center console to work with. I'm trying to avoid taking up space below the heater controls as that's right over the cup holders and is valuable space.
"techy" may not be the right word because what I'm imagining will probably require more hidden tech than just adding a bunch of gauges.
But the intent is to have as few gauges as possible or at least the perception that there are fewer while still getting the important stuff (boost, egt, oil pressure, water temp, battery A, battery B, etc)
A row of gauges across the dash looks "techy" but if I can get something with alarms and readings that swap to show what's important at the moment, that would be ideal. That's more like what you'd see on a modern car with an engine monitor computer.
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
(01-28-2010, 11:14 PM)willbhere4u Did you check out the gauge setup on this 300sd looks really cool but expensive!
and what do you mean by non-techy?
When I'm done it will look factory! That is a stock gauge pod from a vw golf!
Was there supposed to be a link or do you mean the VW MKII pod?
I like it (have been a VW fan for a long time) but I don't have that kind of space. The truck doesn't have much of a center console to work with. I'm trying to avoid taking up space below the heater controls as that's right over the cup holders and is valuable space.
"techy" may not be the right word because what I'm imagining will probably require more hidden tech than just adding a bunch of gauges.
But the intent is to have as few gauges as possible or at least the perception that there are fewer while still getting the important stuff (boost, egt, oil pressure, water temp, battery A, battery B, etc)
A row of gauges across the dash looks "techy" but if I can get something with alarms and readings that swap to show what's important at the moment, that would be ideal. That's more like what you'd see on a modern car with an engine monitor computer.
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
01-29-2010, 10:39 AM
#7
I really like his gauge setup! I think he made it him self if I understand the post correctly I would try to buy one my self if I thought I could afford it
http://superturbodiesel.com/std/mb-300sd...t-996.html
This post was last modified: 01-29-2010, 10:50 AM by willbhere4u.
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
01-29-2010, 10:39 AM #7Sorry here is the link
I really like his gauge setup! I think he made it him self if I understand the post correctly I would try to buy one my self if I thought I could afford it
http://superturbodiesel.com/std/mb-300sd...t-996.html
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
01-29-2010, 11:51 AM
#8
(01-29-2010, 10:39 AM)willbhere4u Sorry here is the link
I really like his gauge setup! I think he made it him self if I understand the post correctly I would try to buy one my self if I thought I could afford it
http://superturbodiesel.com/std/mb-300sd...t-996.html
Yeah, I remember seeing that and also figured it was DIY. It's more or less what I'm looking for. The BD X-monitor appears to be similar (tracks 3 inputs) and the form factor might be able to fit in my ash tray slot. it's just $$$.
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
(01-29-2010, 10:39 AM)willbhere4u Sorry here is the link
I really like his gauge setup! I think he made it him self if I understand the post correctly I would try to buy one my self if I thought I could afford it
http://superturbodiesel.com/std/mb-300sd...t-996.html
Yeah, I remember seeing that and also figured it was DIY. It's more or less what I'm looking for. The BD X-monitor appears to be similar (tracks 3 inputs) and the form factor might be able to fit in my ash tray slot. it's just $$$.
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
01-29-2010, 12:50 PM
#9
(01-28-2010, 10:03 PM)Syncro_G ....
multiple gauges are great - I just don't have the dash space and still need to a fit battery monitor somewhere. Also am trying to keep it really non-techy.
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Do you have space above the steering wheel column?
This might work.
http://www.thefind.com/cars/info-dual-st...-gauge-pod
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
01-29-2010, 12:50 PM #9(01-28-2010, 10:03 PM)Syncro_G ....
multiple gauges are great - I just don't have the dash space and still need to a fit battery monitor somewhere. Also am trying to keep it really non-techy.
....
Do you have space above the steering wheel column?
This might work.
http://www.thefind.com/cars/info-dual-st...-gauge-pod
.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
01-29-2010, 03:09 PM
#10
(01-29-2010, 12:50 PM)DeliveryValve Do you have space above the steering wheel column?
This might work.
Unfortunately, I don't have any space between steering wheel and dash. problem would be easily solved.
Here's another that looks interesting...
http://www.zeitronix.com/
their simple digital readout looks like a full featured product that can be put in tight places.
Also their "DashDAQ" looks really cool but well beyond my budget and is too big to fit anywhere but on the dash.
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
(01-29-2010, 12:50 PM)DeliveryValve Do you have space above the steering wheel column?
This might work.
Unfortunately, I don't have any space between steering wheel and dash. problem would be easily solved.
Here's another that looks interesting...
http://www.zeitronix.com/
their simple digital readout looks like a full featured product that can be put in tight places.
Also their "DashDAQ" looks really cool but well beyond my budget and is too big to fit anywhere but on the dash.
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
01-30-2010, 04:36 AM
#11
popular brands are AEM and defi... although I think autometer has one too. I wouldnt be surprised if VDO makes one.
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
SurfRodder
01-30-2010, 04:36 AM #11Have you thought about a "serial" gage... those take many inputs and cycle through them. They are all digital, but it meets the one gage requirement. They are pretty cool and can be programmed to cycle through all the inputs and flash to a particular reading if/when a setpoint is met.
popular brands are AEM and defi... although I think autometer has one too. I wouldnt be surprised if VDO makes one.
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
01-30-2010, 05:02 PM
#12
(01-28-2010, 11:14 PM)willbhere4u Did you check out the gauge setup on this 300sd looks really cool but expensive!
and what do you mean by non-techy?
When I'm done it will look factory! That is a stock gauge pod from a vw golf!
It's my supermeter project. I do custom setups for sale with different specs some with larger display, some with small display, also many pressure sensors are supported, with egt or without, single afr and dual afr for V-engines.
Here's my supermeter info page:
http://oh1jty.toimii.net/supermeter/
Supermeter setup running in nissan skyline (customers):
![[Image: p1030485.jpg]](http://oh1jty.toimii.net/kuvat/normal/x-treme_show_2009/p1030485.jpg)
Some more photos
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
(01-28-2010, 11:14 PM)willbhere4u Did you check out the gauge setup on this 300sd looks really cool but expensive!
and what do you mean by non-techy?
When I'm done it will look factory! That is a stock gauge pod from a vw golf!
It's my supermeter project. I do custom setups for sale with different specs some with larger display, some with small display, also many pressure sensors are supported, with egt or without, single afr and dual afr for V-engines.
Here's my supermeter info page:
http://oh1jty.toimii.net/supermeter/
Supermeter setup running in nissan skyline (customers):
Some more photos
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
01-30-2010, 05:46 PM
#13
Quote:It's my supermeter project. I do custom setups for sale with different specs some with larger display, some with small display, also many pressure sensors are supported, with egt or without, single afr and dual afr for V-engines.
Here's my supermeter info page:
http://oh1jty.toimii.net/supermeter/
Could you tell us more details about your system...Does it works also at cars without obd2 etc...???[/quote]
Quote:It's my supermeter project. I do custom setups for sale with different specs some with larger display, some with small display, also many pressure sensors are supported, with egt or without, single afr and dual afr for V-engines.
Here's my supermeter info page:
http://oh1jty.toimii.net/supermeter/
Could you tell us more details about your system...Does it works also at cars without obd2 etc...???[/quote]
01-31-2010, 10:49 AM
#14
(01-30-2010, 05:02 PM)JTY It's my supermeter project. I do custom setups for sale with different specs some with larger display, some with small display, also many pressure sensors are supported, with egt or without, single afr and dual afr for V-engines.
Here's my supermeter info page:
http://oh1jty.toimii.net/supermeter/
this looks interesting! I have a little matrix of warning lights in the middle of my gauge cluster. If I were able to Relocate them or reproduce their functions, I could put an LCD screen there (like the later model G-wagens have)
hazard/ turn signal
front locker engaged
rear locker engaged
(and a planned aux fuel filter pressure)
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
(01-30-2010, 05:02 PM)JTY It's my supermeter project. I do custom setups for sale with different specs some with larger display, some with small display, also many pressure sensors are supported, with egt or without, single afr and dual afr for V-engines.
Here's my supermeter info page:
http://oh1jty.toimii.net/supermeter/
this looks interesting! I have a little matrix of warning lights in the middle of my gauge cluster. If I were able to Relocate them or reproduce their functions, I could put an LCD screen there (like the later model G-wagens have)
hazard/ turn signal
front locker engaged
rear locker engaged
(and a planned aux fuel filter pressure)
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
02-03-2010, 02:46 AM
#15
it's one that comes with a dodge ram pillar mount. I'll either cut that up for my use or come up with some new mount.
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
Just found a BD X-monitor for less than 1/2 what everyone else was selling it for so I bought it. (fingers crossed)
it's one that comes with a dodge ram pillar mount. I'll either cut that up for my use or come up with some new mount.
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
02-03-2010, 03:06 AM
#16
(01-28-2010, 10:03 PM)Syncro_G(01-28-2010, 02:12 PM)willbhere4u I'm running plain vdo egt and boost and an oil temp myself
multiple gauges are great - I just don't have the dash space and still need to a fit battery monitor somewhere. Also am trying to keep it really non-techy.
(01-28-2010, 06:18 PM)forcedinduction I think Westach is what you're looking for.
http://flashoffroad.com/Accessories/Gaug...st/EGT.htm
It's definitly the most old school. I just wish it were back lit. Though not essential, I like that the alarms and logging that the other two offer.
sorry for the huge pic
so left of the dash EGT and on the right BOOST ,VOLTOMETER and oil pressure
sorry for the huge pic
so left of the dash EGT and on the right BOOST ,VOLTOMETER and oil pressure !!
ps : if somebody tells me the correct image size i know for next time
and the left of the triple gauge pod is the famous Frappe we Greeks can't do without
This post was last modified: 02-03-2010, 03:13 AM by offroadbakos.
offroadbakos
02-03-2010, 03:06 AM #16(01-28-2010, 10:03 PM)Syncro_G(01-28-2010, 02:12 PM)willbhere4u I'm running plain vdo egt and boost and an oil temp myself
multiple gauges are great - I just don't have the dash space and still need to a fit battery monitor somewhere. Also am trying to keep it really non-techy.
(01-28-2010, 06:18 PM)forcedinduction I think Westach is what you're looking for.
http://flashoffroad.com/Accessories/Gaug...st/EGT.htm
It's definitly the most old school. I just wish it were back lit. Though not essential, I like that the alarms and logging that the other two offer.
sorry for the huge pic
so left of the dash EGT and on the right BOOST ,VOLTOMETER and oil pressure
sorry for the huge pic
so left of the dash EGT and on the right BOOST ,VOLTOMETER and oil pressure !!
ps : if somebody tells me the correct image size i know for next time
and the left of the triple gauge pod is the famous Frappe we Greeks can't do without
02-03-2010, 08:52 AM
#17
Quote:Just found a BD X-monitor for less than 1/2 what everyone else was selling it for so I bought it. (fingers crossed)
it's one that comes with a dodge ram pillar mount. I'll either cut that up for my use or come up with some new mount.
This is a universal monitor system as i understood,right??Isn't necessary the Ecu...
Quote:Just found a BD X-monitor for less than 1/2 what everyone else was selling it for so I bought it. (fingers crossed)
it's one that comes with a dodge ram pillar mount. I'll either cut that up for my use or come up with some new mount.
This is a universal monitor system as i understood,right??Isn't necessary the Ecu...
02-03-2010, 10:58 AM
#18
(02-03-2010, 08:52 AM)gvp This is a universal monitor system as i understood,right??Isn't necessary the Ecu...
mostly. Boost and EGT are universal (come with senders) while the optional third input can be configured to receive an add on module or tap directly into one of several Detroit wire harnesses. I'm going to call today to see if I can hook up a vdo oil pressure sender to it (gwagen doesn't have a gauge like the w123 does)
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
(02-03-2010, 08:52 AM)gvp This is a universal monitor system as i understood,right??Isn't necessary the Ecu...
mostly. Boost and EGT are universal (come with senders) while the optional third input can be configured to receive an add on module or tap directly into one of several Detroit wire harnesses. I'm going to call today to see if I can hook up a vdo oil pressure sender to it (gwagen doesn't have a gauge like the w123 does)
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
02-04-2010, 12:21 AM
#20
(02-03-2010, 11:35 AM)gvp Ok!!Let me know....thanks!
I talked to Chris at BD
Out of the box, the gauge kit will do Boost and EGT.
With an add on kit, you can choose one of the following:
1080120 X-Monitor Remote Temp Kit - 1/8npt Sender
1080125 X-Monitor Remote Temp Kit - Dodge
1080135 X-Monitor Brake Pressure Kit - Dodge
1080156 X-Monitor Fuel Pressure Kit - Dodge 98.5-07
1080160 X-Monitor Auxiliary Fuel Tank Level Interface Kit
1080127 X-Monitor Remote Temp Kit - Ford
1080160 X-Monitor Auxiliary Fuel Tank Level Interface Kit
1080126 X-Monitor Remote Temp Kit - Chev Duramax
1080136 X-Monitor Brake Pressure Kit - Duramax
As you can see - most options are tailored to detroit diesels.
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
(02-03-2010, 11:35 AM)gvp Ok!!Let me know....thanks!
I talked to Chris at BD
Out of the box, the gauge kit will do Boost and EGT.
With an add on kit, you can choose one of the following:
1080120 X-Monitor Remote Temp Kit - 1/8npt Sender
1080125 X-Monitor Remote Temp Kit - Dodge
1080135 X-Monitor Brake Pressure Kit - Dodge
1080156 X-Monitor Fuel Pressure Kit - Dodge 98.5-07
1080160 X-Monitor Auxiliary Fuel Tank Level Interface Kit
1080127 X-Monitor Remote Temp Kit - Ford
1080160 X-Monitor Auxiliary Fuel Tank Level Interface Kit
1080126 X-Monitor Remote Temp Kit - Chev Duramax
1080136 X-Monitor Brake Pressure Kit - Duramax
As you can see - most options are tailored to detroit diesels.
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
12-02-2012, 11:14 PM
#22
anyway http://zada-tech.com/ seems like the cats pajamas so far on this topic
-1982 300SD, found out she has an '85 Engine, unknown mileage, redoing the top end and chain, head has been ported and polished, non EGR manifolds / non ARV turbo
-1982 300D, too many issues to list.
-Alt Fuel Buff
-Founder www.SWFLBenzCLub.com
SpecialDelivery
12-02-2012, 11:14 PM #22I went ape on this topic for while. I spoke with a tuner friend of mine, told him what I wanted to do, he gave me zietronix, I called and spoke with them. They could do some of what I wanted, but thier were all geared toward a gasser so I would always have a channel wasted on AFR. I found a really cool DIY and another company who CAN make you exactly what you want...yes you have to use their sensors and no you can add on later as the controller box for the LED panel would need not only a firmware upgrade but also a port to accommodate your new sensor input. Duh. But it looks like a pretty good cost / value ratio considering the options. I was going to and still might put energy into making one...I've got a couple of bud's who's handy w computers anyway http://zada-tech.com/ seems like the cats pajamas so far on this topic
-1982 300SD, found out she has an '85 Engine, unknown mileage, redoing the top end and chain, head has been ported and polished, non EGR manifolds / non ARV turbo
-1982 300D, too many issues to list.
-Alt Fuel Buff
-Founder www.SWFLBenzCLub.com
12-03-2012, 06:29 AM
#23
Its the MadDog EMS1.
http://www.landyonlineretail.co.za/shop/...gory_id=24
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Image(s)I use this one in my G and am very happy with it.
Its the MadDog EMS1.
http://www.landyonlineretail.co.za/shop/...gory_id=24
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